Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[Iverson Armband]

F it, let’s take a Heat package.

Embiid/Tucker/House for Bam/Herro/Jaquez/Jovic/2027 & 2029 1sts/2026, 2028, & 2030 1st swaps


Maxey/Melton
Herro/Springer
Jaquez/Jovic
Harris/Reed
Adebayo/Bamba

Plus whatever we get for Harden.

I want Caleb Martin in the deal too. But not bad.

[the_process]

But it's not macho. The Clippers aren't offering anything of value. They aren't turning down a Kawhi for Harden swap to stick it to Harden. Morey should do what any GM should do. If the trade doesn't make you better, don't make the trade. And maybe the NBAPA should tell Harden that if he wants to be traded, maybe he should STFU and stop lowering his trade value every time he opens his mouth.

Then you take the trash and make the problem disappear before you destroy the locker room.

This is a no win situation. Morey is about to go into next offseason trying to sell FA's on a dysfunctional franchise and bringing the Harden circus to camp makes the clown show impossible to hide.

The best option would be to bring a new guy in here and blow it up.

The players will go where they think they can win and who pays them the most money.

Players avoided Knicks money for years because Dolan.

[Mik317]

Again I don’t think the Heat trade Bam soon. He’s taken the Heat to two finals and they are focused on using their stuff for Dame

[Negrodamus]

https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1691555741360963698?s=46

If the league doesn’t do anything about this because… China, I’d consider boycotting next season.

Edit: I can’t think of anything lamer than Musk changing the url on top of the branding to just “X”. What an insufferable twerp, my god. I think the embed functionality breaking on realgm is what finally made me snap about this twitter dilemma.

[Negrodamus]

If it’s not the Clips, I’m still sticking with Harden to NO.

[Jailblazers7]

Players need to be more strategic with the players they’re publicly backing in these disputes. I had a similar thought when people came to Kyrie’s defense because it’s such a dumb place to burn political capital.

I get that it’s a fraternity & a union but James Harden’s behavior is not defensible. This will be the 3rd team he’s quit on & to call his latest stunt smart because he did it in China is flat out dumb. Iggy is trying to give Harden credit for some kind of chess move but in reality Harden is playing solitaire on his computer & he’s losing.

[Arsenal]

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If the league doesn’t do anything about this because… China, I’d consider boycotting next season.

Edit: I can’t think of anything lamer than Musk changing the url on top of the branding to just “X”. What an insufferable twerp, my god. I think the embed functionality breaking on realgm is what finally made me snap about this twitter dilemma.

Definitely a calculated move by Harden to do this in China. No way the NBA disciplines him due to the history with Morey.

James Harden is now the most popular basketball player in China, so he'll get to cash in on that also.

Heel in the USA but MEGAFACE in China!

[Mik317]

both Iggy and Turner hate us lol

not impartial guys there ha

[Jailblazers7]

What discipline would the NBA enact on Harden if he did this in the US? I don’t get that talking point, is the NBA gonna fine him because he was mean to his GM?

[ProcessDoctor]

Iggy has always thought of himself as high IQ, but he's really not.

[Mik317]

they can't fine Harden for his comments.

They were carefully worded to avoid the only play for one team thing
Its not until he actually sits out that he'd get in trouble....

still don't think the league is happy about it.....but they gotta hold that **** because they helped foster it

[rocketsfan100]

Shelbourne who seems to be plugged in hardens inner circle: things about to get very interesting

[GutUNC]

Shelbourne who seems to be plugged in hardens inner circle: things about to get very interesting

She's Embiid's designated mouthpiece, fwiw

[rocketsfan100]

Shelbourne who seems to be plugged in hardens inner circle: things about to get very interesting

She's Embiid's designated mouthpiece, fwiw

Anyhow she seems to be plugged in .

[Warfelg]

https://x.com/clutchpoints/status/1689689715375550472?s=46&t=xd5QJpZuXv2k7qD0xqd6aA


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[Revived]

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[Skates]

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The old phrase takes one to know one kind of fits here.

[Ben]

What discipline would the NBA enact on Harden if he did this in the US? I don’t get that talking point, is the NBA gonna fine him because he was mean to his GM?

I misread the NBA memo that I posted earlier. I thought it was stating that players and agents couldn't say that they wouldn't fulfill their contracts, period, not that they wouldn't fulfill their contracts if traded (to certain teams). So I guess that what Harden said doesn't violate the terms of that memo. I can't for the life of me understand why it's more acceptable to say publicly that you won't perform for your own team rather than that you won't perform for a new team, but it seems as if the memo allows for that.

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[GutUNC]

The Onion could have done about 50 different headlines with that one.

[sixers hoops]

What discipline would the NBA enact on Harden if he did this in the US? I don’t get that talking point, is the NBA gonna fine him because he was mean to his GM?

I misread the NBA memo that I posted earlier. I thought it was stating that players and agents couldn't say that they wouldn't fulfill their contracts, period, not that they wouldn't fulfill their contracts if traded (to certain teams). So I guess that what Harden said doesn't violate the terms of that memo. I can't for the life of me understand why it's more acceptable to say publicly that you won't perform for your own team rather than that you won't perform for a new team, but it seems as if the memo allows for that.

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Well, more specifically, the memo was based off the collective bargaining agreement which states that players and agents cannot publicly express a desire to go to another team. Players or their agents cannot indicate privately or publicly that they would not fully perform services called for under their contract. Finally, players can be fined for off-court behavior that is not in the best interest of the association or basketball.

I believe the Lillard memo was just a warning as for the most part organizations did not report Goodwin making the reported threat.

James, as far as I can tell, has not publicly asked for a trade. He only said he wouldn’t play for an organization that Morey is part of. And he is well within his rights to step away from the game and not play professional basketball or not report and deal with the fines. Ultimately, saying that he won’t work for the Sixers is his right, but that leaves him with few options moving forward.

And fining him under the conduct detrimental to the league clause is left solely to Adam Silver. When the offense involves guns, drugs, or domestic violence, Adam Silver provides his evidence findings to the player’s association, and those findings are subject to grievance procedures. I find Harden’s conduct very detrimental to the league. It’s an embarrassment. However, the NBA likely has a large team of lawyers and PR people who assess if it is worthy of a fine, if the fine will withstand a grievance, and if fining Harden will be popular or unpopular with fans.

However, teams also fine players for conduct detrimental to the team. Detrimental conduct is considered any activity that can be viewed as a distraction or nuisance for an organization. Ben Simmons was fined multiple times for conduct detrimental to the team for refusing to cooperate with team doctors, for instance, or disrupting practice. Looking at it from this lens, I would be a little surprised, but I wouldn’t be shocked if Harden were subject to discipline. This seems like something that would come from the league though.