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Post#1841 » by Prez » Fri Aug 18, 2023 2:46 pm

We have almost an entirely new coaching staff, a few 23 and under wings who at various points looked promising this summer, team is a contender, and have at worst the 2nd best player in the world in his prime. I think “least excited I’ve ever been” is a bit strange lol. We have quite a bit to be excited about this year.
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Post#1842 » by Dick Tate » Fri Aug 18, 2023 2:49 pm

Milbucks96 wrote:Golden state was a great regular season team til injuries hit them in the middle of the season. The bucks were a good regular season team to me. I can’t remember the last time we’ve seen a team with a mediocre or ok regular season record win it all. Has anyone lower than a 3 seed won it in the last 20-30 years? The spurs right?

I want the bucks to look at Denver and try to replicate that, not Miami or LA. Winning a lot of games in the regular season is still an indicator of a championship level team. The bucks should be able to get to the post season healthy and rested with hca because that’s what teams who wins championships do.

Denver won 53 games. Good enough to be 4th seed in the East.
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Post#1843 » by Milbucks96 » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:29 pm

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Milbucks96 wrote:Golden state was a great regular season team til injuries hit them in the middle of the season. The bucks were a good regular season team to me. I can’t remember the last time we’ve seen a team with a mediocre or ok regular season record win it all. Has anyone lower than a 3 seed won it in the last 20-30 years? The spurs right?

I want the bucks to look at Denver and try to replicate that, not Miami or LA. Winning a lot of games in the regular season is still an indicator of a championship level team. The bucks should be able to get to the post season healthy and rested with hca because that’s what teams who wins championships do.

Denver won 53 games. Good enough to be 4th seed in the East.

Good thing they’re in the west because that was good enough for the 1 seed. They clearly valued it and went for it, and it let them take advantage of their huge hca.

I just don’t get this idea that the regular season doesn’t mean anything. If anything the bucks haven’t cared much about the regular season in years and it still hasn’t made them a better playoff team like some seem to think it does. The goal should be to get as high a seed as you can while resting and staying healthy. If a team can’t do that then they’re probably not a good enough team anyway.
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Post#1844 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:45 pm

Feels like the Covid bubble really screwed up people's valuations of the regular season. Like, cool, Miami made a historically improbable run to the Finals as an 8th-seed team with a negative RS point-differential. What happened when they got there? Oh, right, they got absolutely waxed by a 1-seed who was the best West team all season and "only" ended up with 53-wins because they could afford to coast the final few weeks before the playoffs. Only here do some people think it's almost a bad thing to win a lot of games in the RS as if it has some sort of reverse-psychology effect on the roster and their ability to level up to playoff intensity.
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Post#1845 » by M-C-G » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:51 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Feels like the Covid bubble really screwed up people's valuations of the regular season. Like, cool, Miami made a historically improbable run to the Finals as an 8th-seed team with a negative RS point-differential. What happened when they got there? Oh, right, they got absolutely waxed by a 1-seed who was the best West team all season and "only" ended up with 53-wins because they could afford to coast the final few weeks before the playoffs. Only here do some people think it's almost a bad thing to win a lot of games in the RS as if it has some sort of reverse-psychology effect on the roster and their ability to level up to playoff intensity.

A lot to unpack here, but I am mostly in agreement. That said, it seems like a fact your top 6-8 players determine your playoff success. So for me, hard to be too upset if we try and keep the top guys healthy and ready for post season regardless of regular season record.

Now also, there is no reason a healthy bucks team doesn’t get some kind of HCA even using the season to rest older guys and develop younger guys


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Post#1846 » by ejn1214 » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:57 pm

steger_3434 wrote:This is probably the least excited I’ve ever been for a season. 8th seed? 1st seed? Does it really matter? We don’t have a single younger player that could potentially be a star. That’s the problem. We are what we are. Giannis is Giannis. Mids is mids. Holiday is holiday. It would be nice if we had 1 22 year old thst could be a star but we don’t and anyone that thinks we do is a homer


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I guess I kind of understand what you are saying but least excited ever? I remember being excited when Michael Redd made the all star team. I remember hoping we could make the playoffs and maybe win a series.

I'm not saying you in particular, but some people are either forgetting how things used to be or just haven't been fans for very long. People need to please try and enjoy these years. No matter what the Bucks do, they aren't going to be contenders forever and we will probably be terrible for another 20+ years after this run. I'm also not sure how we are supposed to get a 22 year old future star.
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Post#1847 » by Prez » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:58 pm

Less concerned with how hard they play, more focused on seeing what we have in MarJon and Dre. Get them real playing time. If they’re not ready it’s whatever. If they make the most of those reps and become ready at some point in the year, you just added two young explosive 6’7” wings with defensive versatility.
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Post#1848 » by emunney » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:59 pm

I wonder if Besson could end up being a 2 way guy. I don't think he's signed for next year anywhere.
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Post#1849 » by PG Graveyard » Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:16 pm

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the rivalry games are incredibly comical. You have Spurs vs. OKC and Dallas vs. Atlanta, but somehow couldn't manage to figure in a Bucks vs. Philly or Bucks vs. Boston. Good work. If Giannis doesn't sign his extension (which probably makes sense for him) the discourse this season is going to be gross.
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Post#1850 » by SupremeHustle » Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:21 pm

As Luke Skywalker's dad once said (spoiler alert?) "I find the lack of enthusiasm relatable." Or something like that.

I'll watch every game that I can as well, but I'm not expecting a whole lot. Giannis' knee, the new coaching staff, and that undefeated evil bastard Father Time have me thinking we could end up anywhere from 2nd seed to play-in team. I am interested in seeing what the young guys can do, but I don't think they'll play that much.
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Post#1851 » by buckboy » Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:35 pm

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I mean... Depends on your definition of good to great.

Bucks were the three seed, as was Golden State two years ago.

Golden state was a great regular season team til injuries hit them in the middle of the season. The bucks were a good regular season team to me. I can’t remember the last time we’ve seen a team with a mediocre or ok regular season record win it all. Has anyone lower than a 3 seed won it in the last 20-30 years? The spurs right?

I want the bucks to look at Denver and try to replicate that, not Miami or LA. Winning a lot of games in the regular season is still an indicator of a championship level team. The bucks should be able to get to the post season healthy and rested with hca because that’s what teams who wins championships do.


Lower than a three seed has happened twice.

Hakeem's Rockets and the 69 Celtics


More importantly, seeds aren't what they used to be. Nobody cares about the regular season anymore.
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Post#1852 » by MVP2110 » Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:19 pm

Milbucks96 wrote:
Dick Tate wrote:
Milbucks96 wrote:Golden state was a great regular season team til injuries hit them in the middle of the season. The bucks were a good regular season team to me. I can’t remember the last time we’ve seen a team with a mediocre or ok regular season record win it all. Has anyone lower than a 3 seed won it in the last 20-30 years? The spurs right?

I want the bucks to look at Denver and try to replicate that, not Miami or LA. Winning a lot of games in the regular season is still an indicator of a championship level team. The bucks should be able to get to the post season healthy and rested with hca because that’s what teams who wins championships do.

Denver won 53 games. Good enough to be 4th seed in the East.

Good thing they’re in the west because that was good enough for the 1 seed. They clearly valued it and went for it, and it let them take advantage of their huge hca.

I just don’t get this idea that the regular season doesn’t mean anything. If anything the bucks haven’t cared much about the regular season in years and it still hasn’t made them a better playoff team like some seem to think it does. The goal should be to get as high a seed as you can while resting and staying healthy. If a team can’t do that then they’re probably not a good enough team anyway.


We just saw an 8 seed in the Finals & a 7 seed in the WCF. If anything as Bucks fans we've learned the hard way that the RS basically means nothing. In the last 5 years we had the best record 3 separate times but never made the finals in those seasons. The year we did make the Finals we were a 3 seed.
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Post#1853 » by emunney » Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:40 pm

I still think there's another mid-sized move (read: move with actual rotation implications) coming before camp, either post-Lillard or when teams decide they've waited long enough.
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Post#1854 » by MVP2110 » Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:41 pm

emunney wrote:I still think there's another mid-sized move (read: move with actual rotation implications) coming before camp, either post-Lillard or when teams decide they've waited long enough.


I would tend to agree with this. I just can't see us going into the season with our backup PG being 2 way guys
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Post#1855 » by CharityStripe34 » Fri Aug 18, 2023 6:07 pm

Interested in the new coaching staff's effect on the team, I suppose. RS ball compared with playoff b-ball is worlds apart, and it's become glaring. A handful of RS games resemble a playoff game from time-to-time I suppose.
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Post#1856 » by soxperry » Fri Aug 18, 2023 6:08 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
Milbucks96 wrote:
Dick Tate wrote:Denver won 53 games. Good enough to be 4th seed in the East.

Good thing they’re in the west because that was good enough for the 1 seed. They clearly valued it and went for it, and it let them take advantage of their huge hca.

I just don’t get this idea that the regular season doesn’t mean anything. If anything the bucks haven’t cared much about the regular season in years and it still hasn’t made them a better playoff team like some seem to think it does. The goal should be to get as high a seed as you can while resting and staying healthy. If a team can’t do that then they’re probably not a good enough team anyway.


We just saw an 8 seed in the Finals & a 7 seed in the WCF. If anything as Bucks fans we've learned the hard way that the RS basically means nothing. In the last 5 years we had the best record 3 separate times but never made the finals in those seasons. The year we did make the Finals we were a 3 seed.



That Miami loss feels like the first wave of a comedown off of some really good molly. We could very well slide back into the good zone but the reality that this is going to end has become present in the mind.

After saying the regular season doesn't matter all of last season and basically not going to many games and just patiently waiting for our deep post season run.... [Insert laughter]..... Im zagging on that this year. The results may not indicate anything about how the playoffs will go but im going to try and enjoy the RS as much as possible. Ill be hitting as many games as i can.
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Post#1857 » by MVP2110 » Fri Aug 18, 2023 6:18 pm

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Milbucks96 wrote:Good thing they’re in the west because that was good enough for the 1 seed. They clearly valued it and went for it, and it let them take advantage of their huge hca.

I just don’t get this idea that the regular season doesn’t mean anything. If anything the bucks haven’t cared much about the regular season in years and it still hasn’t made them a better playoff team like some seem to think it does. The goal should be to get as high a seed as you can while resting and staying healthy. If a team can’t do that then they’re probably not a good enough team anyway.


We just saw an 8 seed in the Finals & a 7 seed in the WCF. If anything as Bucks fans we've learned the hard way that the RS basically means nothing. In the last 5 years we had the best record 3 separate times but never made the finals in those seasons. The year we did make the Finals we were a 3 seed.



That Miami loss feels like the first wave of a comedown off of some really good molly. We could very well slide back into the good zone but the reality that this is going to end has become present in the mind.

After saying the regular season doesn't matter all of last season and basically not going to many games and just patiently waiting for our deep post season run.... [Insert laughter]..... Im zagging on that this year. The results may not indicate anything about how the playoffs will go but im going to try and enjoy the RS as much as possible. Ill be hitting as many games as i can.


That's totally fair. I can completely understand wanting to watch as many games as possible while we are this good. I just don't think the RS has much predictive value for the playoffs anymore
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Post#1858 » by emunney » Fri Aug 18, 2023 6:29 pm

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Post#1859 » by mcfromage » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:17 pm

How does our back to backs this year compare to the rest of the league? Anyone seen an analysis?
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Post#1860 » by Milbucks96 » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:26 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
Milbucks96 wrote:
Dick Tate wrote:Denver won 53 games. Good enough to be 4th seed in the East.

Good thing they’re in the west because that was good enough for the 1 seed. They clearly valued it and went for it, and it let them take advantage of their huge hca.

I just don’t get this idea that the regular season doesn’t mean anything. If anything the bucks haven’t cared much about the regular season in years and it still hasn’t made them a better playoff team like some seem to think it does. The goal should be to get as high a seed as you can while resting and staying healthy. If a team can’t do that then they’re probably not a good enough team anyway.


We just saw an 8 seed in the Finals & a 7 seed in the WCF. If anything as Bucks fans we've learned the hard way that the RS basically means nothing. In the last 5 years we had the best record 3 separate times but never made the finals in those seasons. The year we did make the Finals we were a 3 seed.

A 3 seed is a high seed. LA and Miami’s runs aren’t anything to try to replicate. Miami was just the one seed the season before, and LA tried very hard in the regular season but just sucked til they overhauled the roster and got healthy.

Good regular season teams win championships in the nba. Trying to avoid a top seed does nothing. The bucks have been load managing and **** around to 50+ wins for years and if they can’t anymore, then the postseason won’t matter to us either because we won’t be going far.

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