Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[the_process]

Seems LaVine is getting some traction in Bulls rumors.

What, for Harden?

[rocketsfan100]

Seems LaVine is getting some traction in Bulls rumors.

This seemed to be the most ideal feasible trade from the begging. Harden/DeMare/Vuicic or whatever his name will definitely be a playoffs team but not a contender and the Sixers get super athletic

[spikeslovechild]

Daryl has never wanted a rebuild in his career. All of a sudden he wants one now?

This report is nonsense. It's someone making up news.

I don't think he covets first-rounders but Mann is not worth anything to the Sixers.

I don't like picks but it does give us flexabilty. I mean at this point I don't see any team surrendering a star for Harden. I'd much rather trade for currency then do an Isiah Thomas-type trade. Teams are not going to give up the better player in a Harden trade.

But it's also on Morey to get the most assets for Harden as possible. It also gives us optionality if Embiid is the next shoe to drop. If we trade for a veteran instead and Embiid wants out then we are stuck in an even worse position.

[76ciology]

Rebuild? Contend?

How about to just meet halfway by tanking the next or next 2 seasons then continue.

If Embiid is not OK with that, then we try to get good return of assets that will allow us to be in a position to contend again by 2025 playoffs onwards. But definitely the default is we can have him by 2025 playoffs onwards with a better team to surround him with.

For the mean time, we should stay calm and not be antsy then be pressured to make any moves that will hurt us in the long term.

[Ben]

Seems LaVine is getting some traction in Bulls rumors.

This seemed to be the most ideal feasible trade from the begging. Harden/DeMare/Vuicic or whatever his name will definitely be a playoffs team but not a contender and the Sixers get super athletic

I follow Bulls news and rumors and haven't heard anything to this effect.

In the short term I could see a fully motivated Harden making the Bulls better on-court for the short term. He's a better fit than LaVine with DDR. But Harden's not a long-term proposition and neither is DDR. Both are post-30 stars on expiring contracts. Without getting other assets that would help them rebuild, Considering the risks that now obviously accompany Harden on any team he joins, I don't know why the Bulls would want a potential, one-year improvement that still doesn't put them in title contention.

[MoeGreene]

There was a trade on Bleacher Report. I can't find the article

One of the commentators on YouTube said, the Bulls are "fielding calls on LaVine". Lost that video too.
Here's something discussing the rumor.

Watch on YouTube

Generally, what I am finding is this rumor is 2 weeks old and conjecture.

Seems LaVine is getting some traction in Bulls rumors.

Link?

[eyeatoma]

LMAO, he can't be this stupid...

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[M2J]

I'm sure there are better partners out there for Zach. Probably even the Knicks.

But DeRozan for Harden makes all the sense in the world for both sides.

[rocketsfan100]

Seems LaVine is getting some traction in Bulls rumors.

This seemed to be the most ideal feasible trade from the begging. Harden/DeMare/Vuicic or whatever his name will definitely be a playoffs team but not a contender and the Sixers get super athletic

I follow Bulls news and rumors and haven't heard anything to this effect.

In the short term I could see a fully motivated Harden making the Bulls better on-court for the short term. He's a better fit than LaVine with DDR. But Harden's not a long-term proposition and neither is DDR. Both are post-30 stars on expiring contracts. Without getting other assets that would help them rebuild, Considering the risks that now obviously accompany Harden on any team he joins, I don't know why the Bulls would want a potential, one-year improvement that still doesn't put them in title contention.

They get rid of Lavines contract. Plus harden is still a better overall player . Upgrade and they get cap relief next season

[Arsenal]

LMAO, he can't be this stupid...

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Come on, this is hilarious. Fat Suit Harden is the real superhero!

[Arsenal]

I'm sure there are better partners out there for Zach. Probably even the Knicks.

But DeRozan for Harden makes all the sense in the world for both sides.

I'd rather get DeRozan instead of LaVine, all else being equal. Keeps our flexibility and optionality for next summer.

[Arsenal]

I'm just going to state that I'm still open to Harden returning to play out his contract, assuming he plays hard and doesn't pull shenanigans. That's better than doing a bad trade out of desperation.

As for the drama and tension, it's just business. Ish happens. Professionals can bury the hatchet and move forward.

[Kobblehead]

In 23 playoff games with the 76ers, James Harden is 136 for 341 (39.9%) from the field. Trade this bum for a depth package and make one last run with Embiid to see if Joel is worth keeping or if we should full rebuild.

[mjkvol]

For the mean time, we should stay calm and not be antsy then be pressured to make any moves that will hurt us in the long term.

This x 1000.

[the_process]

I'm just going to state that I'm still open to Harden returning to play out his contract, assuming he plays hard and doesn't pull shenanigans. That's better than doing a bad trade out of desperation.

As for the drama and tension, it's just business. Ish happens. Professionals can bury the hatchet and move forward.

The idea that Harden will forget the entire offseason and just show up and play hard and not pull shenanigans is unrealistic.

They were willing to let Harden walk. Trading him now for expirings is the same thing. And I have to believe if Morey actually comes to the table realistically, then he can get the Clippers to add a first as well.

[NYSixersFan]

If Harden holds out and the Sixers have the right to prevent him from hitting FA next summer, they won't have the two max slots available.

Why would they block him from being a FA then? What am I missing here?

[GutUNC]

If Harden holds out and the Sixers have the right to prevent him from hitting FA next summer, they won't have the two max slots available.

Why would they block him from being a FA then? What am I missing here?

It's more about Harden realizing he can't just sit on his ass this year and get to free agency.

[Arsenal]

If Harden holds out and the Sixers have the right to prevent him from hitting FA next summer, they won't have the two max slots available.

Why would they block him from being a FA then? What am I missing here?

You're correct it's an idle threat. Push comes to shove the Sixers will let him go next summer to get the cap space.

Harden's team must know this unless they're really stupid.

[Arsenal]

I'm just going to state that I'm still open to Harden returning to play out his contract, assuming he plays hard and doesn't pull shenanigans. That's better than doing a bad trade out of desperation.

As for the drama and tension, it's just business. Ish happens. Professionals can bury the hatchet and move forward.

The idea that Harden will forget the entire offseason and just show up and play hard and not pull shenanigans is unrealistic.

They were willing to let Harden walk. Trading him now for expirings is the same thing. And I have to believe if Morey actually comes to the table realistically, then he can get the Clippers to add a first as well.

it's not unrealistic. Harden knows that if he dogs it again, this time going into free agency, he may cost himself tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars in future contracts. He has all the incentive in the world to perform well.

Like the legend Charlie Munger said... "Show me the incentive, and I'll show you the outcome"

[Iverson Armband]

I'm just going to state that I'm still open to Harden returning to play out his contract, assuming he plays hard and doesn't pull shenanigans. That's better than doing a bad trade out of desperation.

As for the drama and tension, it's just business. Ish happens. Professionals can bury the hatchet and move forward.

The idea that Harden will forget the entire offseason and just show up and play hard and not pull shenanigans is unrealistic.

They were willing to let Harden walk. Trading him now for expirings is the same thing. And I have to believe if Morey actually comes to the table realistically, then he can get the Clippers to add a first as well.

it's not unrealistic. Harden knows that if he dogs it again, this time going into free agency, he may cost himself tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars in future contracts. He has all the incentive in the world to perform well.

Like the legend Charlie Munger said... "Show me the incentive, and I'll show you the outcome"

Harden has proven he’s basically an idiot when it comes to his finances.