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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 – (Aug. 25 - Sept. 10) 

Post#41 » by joshuapending » Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:10 am

Yep agree with the Delly cut. Bring our young guards along. Think my last cut would be Kay, I know we are a bit light light with the bigs but I just want time and experience into our younger elite talent.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 – (Aug. 25 - Sept. 10) 

Post#42 » by Parliament10 » Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:49 pm

LewisnotMiller wrote:
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LewisnotMiller wrote:Rumours here are that the Boomers will cut either White or Cooks, as well as either Green or Daniels. (Delly was already cut)

Seems wild to me, but there ya go. So Duop Reath and Nick Kay will be in, as well as Dante Exum.

They Cut Dellavedova?
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There should be 15 players, on these International Teams. If for nothing else, then injury purposes alone.


I would have cut him too.
He struggled during the last NBL season. Still a decent player, but was a surprise he got a call up to Sac.

With Ingles and Mills in particular, there was a thought that we needed to introduce youth now, and split the retirements. Delly, along with those guys and Baynes have been instrumental in building a meaningful team culture, along with Nick Kay.

If Delly was there, it would have been as a fifth guard, assistant coach, culture carrier. Looks like they have gone with Exum instead. I probably would have gone with neither. I think Giddey, Green and Daniels all need to be in, and Daniels is fine for that deeper rotation guard role.

But respect for Delly. He's done more with less than almost anyone, and been great.

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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 – (Aug. 25 - Sept. 10) 

Post#43 » by tleikheen » Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:34 pm

Looks like they have gone with Exum instead. I probably would have gone with neither.



Heres some comments on Mavs players that played ...

**AussieCeltic wrote:**I know it’s Venezuela but Australia looks superb defensively. Thybulle, Exum have just been straight up pests.

Been telling everyone that Exum is going to make a name for himself again in NBA if he can stay healthy.

One of the highest TS% in Europe from 3s, FTs and drives and an absolute pest defensively 1-4.

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Australia used a lot of tight defense in the Olympics with their bronze win but this current team is going to take things to another level.

Thybulle, Daniels, Exum are going to give teams nightmares.
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Post#44 » by Hal14 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:54 am

tleikheen wrote:
Looks like they have gone with Exum instead. I probably would have gone with neither.



Heres some comments on Mavs players that played ...

**AussieCeltic wrote:**I know it’s Venezuela but Australia looks superb defensively. Thybulle, Exum have just been straight up pests.

Been telling everyone that Exum is going to make a name for himself again in NBA if he can stay healthy.

One of the highest TS% in Europe from 3s, FTs and drives and an absolute pest defensively 1-4.

Phreak50 » Today 11:54 am

Australia used a lot of tight defense in the Olympics with their bronze win but this current team is going to take things to another level.

Thybulle, Daniels, Exum are going to give teams nightmares.

Yes, I made a couple of posts last season about Exum. He looked very good last season and the one before that over in Europe. I'm not surprised he's back on an NBA roster. Good pickup for the Mavs.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 – (Aug. 25 - Sept. 10) 

Post#45 » by 31to6 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:39 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
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Parliament10 wrote:They Cut Dellavedova?
What's Wrong with this picture???

Side Note:
There should be 15 players, on these International Teams. If for nothing else, then injury purposes alone.


I would have cut him too.
He struggled during the last NBL season. Still a decent player, but was a surprise he got a call up to Sac.

With Ingles and Mills in particular, there was a thought that we needed to introduce youth now, and split the retirements. Delly, along with those guys and Baynes have been instrumental in building a meaningful team culture, along with Nick Kay.

If Delly was there, it would have been as a fifth guard, assistant coach, culture carrier. Looks like they have gone with Exum instead. I probably would have gone with neither. I think Giddey, Green and Daniels all need to be in, and Daniels is fine for that deeper rotation guard role.

But respect for Delly. He's done more with less than almost anyone, and been great.

Wow, OK. Changing of the Guard, literally and figuratively.


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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 – (Aug. 25 - Sept. 10) 

Post#46 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:13 pm

Ntilikina is out of the world cup due to injury. With Albicy aging out of the France team, they are suddenly pretty light in terms of point of attack defenders. Of course Gobert and Fall are going to cover a lot of cracks that are going to appear as a result but it's still not ideal. Old friend Poirier has also been called up as back up in case Matthias Lessort can't go.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 – (Aug. 25 - Sept. 10) 

Post#47 » by Half-Full » Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:22 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Ntilikina is out of the world cup due to injury. With Albicy aging out of the France team, they are suddenly pretty light in terms of point of attack defenders. Of course Gobert and Fall are going to cover a lot of cracks that are going to appear as a result but it's still not ideal. Old friend Poirier has also been called up as back up in case Matthias Lessort can't go.


France looked good against Lithuania on 8/11. Guerschon Yabusele lead the way for France with 17 points and 6 rebounds, and looked very good. Don't know if he has any interest in a return to the NBA, but if so, I imagine teams would be interested. He has played solidly for Real Madrid.
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Post#48 » by LewisnotMiller » Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:46 am

tleikheen wrote:
Looks like they have gone with Exum instead. I probably would have gone with neither.



Heres some comments on Mavs players that played ...

**AussieCeltic wrote:**I know it’s Venezuela but Australia looks superb defensively. Thybulle, Exum have just been straight up pests.

Been telling everyone that Exum is going to make a name for himself again in NBA if he can stay healthy.

One of the highest TS% in Europe from 3s, FTs and drives and an absolute pest defensively 1-4.

Phreak50 » Today 11:54 am

Australia used a lot of tight defense in the Olympics with their bronze win but this current team is going to take things to another level.

Thybulle, Daniels, Exum are going to give teams nightmares.


Can add Josh Green to that mix I think
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Post#49 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:42 pm

Half-Full wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Ntilikina is out of the world cup due to injury. With Albicy aging out of the France team, they are suddenly pretty light in terms of point of attack defenders. Of course Gobert and Fall are going to cover a lot of cracks that are going to appear as a result but it's still not ideal. Old friend Poirier has also been called up as back up in case Matthias Lessort can't go.


France looked good against Lithuania on 8/11. Guerschon Yabusele lead the way for France with 17 points and 6 rebounds, and looked very good. Don't know if he has any interest in a return to the NBA, but if so, I imagine teams would be interested. He has played solidly for Real Madrid.

On the floor things have gone about as well as they could have until now (with another easy win against Japan earlier today). Gobert even made the first three of his career the other day. It's just a shame that injuries are going to prevent that team from being fully operational when it was looking so nice. It does mean more minutes for Sylvain Francisco who is a really fun player to watch so there is that silver lining at least. Lessort potentially being out sucks for him but I'm not even sure he's better than Poirier wh has been called up as his replacement and it's the third big so it's kind of whatever. They would only play if Gobert or Fall get hurt and France is screwed anyway if that happens.

Yabusele has been one of the top 2/3 players for the best non NBA team in the world for a couple years now. The tricky part is that he can probably get more than the minimum vet by staying at Real plus a bigger role and a much nicer city to live in. So teams would have to fork over at least part of the MLE to even tempt him to come back to the NBA but it's harder for contenders to spend their MLE under the new CBA and if they do, they probably someone that's more proven at the NBA level than Yabusele so it's hard to chart a path for him to get back.
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Post#50 » by 165bows » Thu Aug 17, 2023 2:48 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
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Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Ntilikina is out of the world cup due to injury. With Albicy aging out of the France team, they are suddenly pretty light in terms of point of attack defenders. Of course Gobert and Fall are going to cover a lot of cracks that are going to appear as a result but it's still not ideal. Old friend Poirier has also been called up as back up in case Matthias Lessort can't go.


France looked good against Lithuania on 8/11. Guerschon Yabusele lead the way for France with 17 points and 6 rebounds, and looked very good. Don't know if he has any interest in a return to the NBA, but if so, I imagine teams would be interested. He has played solidly for Real Madrid.

On the floor things have gone about as well as they could have until now (with another easy win against Japan earlier today). Gobert even made the first three of his career the other day. It's just a shame that injuries are going to prevent that team from being fully operational when it was looking so nice. It does mean more minutes for Sylvain Francisco who is a really fun player to watch so there is that silver lining at least. Lessort potentially being out sucks for him but I'm not even sure he's better than Poirier wh has been called up as his replacement and it's the third big so it's kind of whatever. They would only play if Gobert or Fall get hurt and France is screwed anyway if that happens.

Yabusele has been one of the top 2/3 players for the best non NBA team in the world for a couple years now. The tricky part is that he can probably get more than the minimum vet by staying at Real plus a bigger role and a much nicer city to live in. So teams would have to fork over at least part of the MLE to even tempt him to come back to the NBA but it's harder for contenders to spend their MLE under the new CBA and if they do, they probably someone that's more proven at the NBA level than Yabusele so it's hard to chart a path for him to get back.

I assume Begarin doesn't hack it to play for the French team at all?
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Post#51 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:59 pm

165bows wrote:I assume Begarin doesn't hack it to play for the French team at all?

He's actually part of the team pretty regularly now when NBA players can't come and he helped France qualify to the World Cup so he's not that far off. He's just a tough fit because the French team already has plenty of athletic dudes that can't shoot (for example, Axel Toupane who was the 15th guy for the Bucks when they won the title a couple years ago can't really get a look with the French team either).

Batum will retire after the Paris games and although there's nothing official yet I would assume De Colo and Fournier will do the same (at least at the national team level) so there's going to be a ton of minutes available for perimeter players in the near future. It's going to be pretty fascinating to see how that battle shakes out between Begarin and the guys that just got drafted (Coulibaly, Rupert and Cissoko) or are about to be (Risacher, Sarr and Ajinça).
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Post#53 » by Hal14 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:39 am

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
165bows wrote:I assume Begarin doesn't hack it to play for the French team at all?

He's actually part of the team pretty regularly now when NBA players can't come and he helped France qualify to the World Cup so he's not that far off. He's just a tough fit because the French team already has plenty of athletic dudes that can't shoot (for example, Axel Toupane who was the 15th guy for the Bucks when they won the title a couple years ago can't really get a look with the French team either).

Batum will retire after the Paris games and although there's nothing official yet I would assume De Colo and Fournier will do the same (at least at the national team level) so there's going to be a ton of minutes available for perimeter players in the near future. It's going to be pretty fascinating to see how that battle shakes out between Begarin and the guys that just got drafted (Coulibaly, Rupert and Cissoko) or are about to be (Risacher, Sarr and Ajinça).

Don't forget Ousmane Dieng. Unless you meant Dieng instead of Sarr (since Sarr is a big).

But yeah, France is very deep (probably the 2nd deepest country in the world in terms of basketball talent) so it's not an easy roster to make..
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Post#54 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:29 am

Hal14 wrote:Don't forget Ousmane Dieng. Unless you meant Dieng instead of Sarr (since Sarr is a big).

But yeah, France is very deep (probably the 2nd deepest country in the world in terms of basketball talent) so it's not an easy roster to make..

Yeah I kinda forgot about Dieng because I was thinking more of the 2023/2024 drafts which were/are going to be the big ones for France. Not a big fan of him though. I don't think he has enough skills to play on the perimeter full time but I'll admit his on/off stats are pretty intriguing for a teenager that couldn't buy a bucket last year.

As for Sarr, I'm guessing you are talking about Olivier but I was mentioning Alexandre his little brother. He'll play in the NBL in Perth this season so I expect regular updates from our Australians friends. He will be drafted in the first round next June (can't see a 7 footer with his mobility slipping too much). If he can develop his skills on ball he might turn himself into a supersized wing but the most likely outcome is that he ends up like Dieng (not enough bulk to play at the 5 and not enough shooting/ballhandling to play the 4 let alone the 3).

I didn't really mention it when talking about the future of the French team because he is obviously going to play as much as he wants but Wembanyama is going to play a big part in this. There's going to be a lot more leeway to fit mediocre shooters in the lineup if he plays the 5 than if he plays the 4 next to a non shooter like Gobert or Fall.
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Post#55 » by Hal14 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:28 am

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Don't forget Ousmane Dieng. Unless you meant Dieng instead of Sarr (since Sarr is a big).

But yeah, France is very deep (probably the 2nd deepest country in the world in terms of basketball talent) so it's not an easy roster to make..

Yeah I kinda forgot about Dieng because I was thinking more of the 2023/2024 drafts which were/are going to be the big ones for France. Not a big fan of him though. I don't think he has enough skills to play on the perimeter full time but I'll admit his on/off stats are pretty intriguing for a teenager that couldn't buy a bucket last year.

As for Sarr, I'm guessing you are talking about Olivier but I was mentioning Alexandre his little brother. He'll play in the NBL in Perth this season so I expect regular updates from our Australians friends. He will be drafted in the first round next June (can't see a 7 footer with his mobility slipping too much). If he can develop his skills on ball he might turn himself into a supersized wing but the most likely outcome is that he ends up like Dieng (not enough bulk to play at the 5 and not enough shooting/ballhandling to play the 4 let alone the 3).

I didn't really mention it when talking about the future of the French team because he is obviously going to play as much as he wants but Wembanyama is going to play a big part in this. There's going to be a lot more leeway to fit mediocre shooters in the lineup if he plays the 5 than if he plays the 4 next to a non shooter like Gobert or Fall.

I figured you meant Alex Sarr. I'm very familiar with his game and think he could even go top 5 in next year's draft.

France just keeps pumping out talent every year - it's impressive.
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Post#56 » by Triple7 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:35 pm

tleikheen wrote:Ultimately team USA will be too young and inexperienced for FIBA basketball.Im not going to be shocked at all if they lose.


Plus no actual go to guy in the clutch if games are close.
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Post#57 » by Hal14 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:04 pm

I mean, Edwards is obviously very good. But man, some of the stuff I'm seeing on twitter - people are going overboard with him. He was going against a Germany team who only had like 4 NBA players. 1 of them is below average (Moe Wagner), 2 of those players are average at best (Theis, Schroder) and the other one has never made an all-star team (Franz).

It's just 1 game and it was just an exhibition - the actual tournament hasn't even started yet. And people on Twitter are calling Edwards the new face of the NBA. Let's pump the brakes a little bit here.
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Post#58 » by Bar Fight » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:56 pm

Hal14 wrote:I mean, Edwards is obviously very good. But man, some of the stuff I'm seeing on twitter - people are going overboard with him. He was going against a Germany team who only had like 4 NBA players. 1 of them is below average (Moe Wagner), 2 of those players are average at best (Theis, Schroder) and the other one has never made an all-star team (Franz).

Let's pump the brakes a little bit here.

Nah, dude balled the **** out. Nothing but respect
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Post#60 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:16 am

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