Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[ProcessDoctor]

Lol what a damn idiot.

[Lou_23]

76ers owner Josh Harris said that he is working to convince Harden to remain in Philadelphia and is willing to “accommodate what he wants” if he and the team are unable to get the 14-time All-Star to rescind his trade request.

[Stanford]

That's hilarious. More to come from the league office, I'm sure.

[Sixersftw]

That feeling when the worst person in the world does something undeniably good.

Still, **** you Dave

[hookshot199]

You can’t blame morey if he didn’t get a good enough offer for a top 20 player. This might be a blessing in disguise for James, comeback have a big year till the trade deadline and I’m sure he will find a team or just play well and wait for another team to pay him.

Going to the clippers was not a good option how injury ridden team they are. They ain’t wining jack. Philadelphia with Nurse, another year of maxey progress is in the mix. Not mentioning that 7’2 unbelievably skilled who he has immaculate chemistry with

The problem is that the Clippers have nothing to trade if they're not willing to trade future picks. Powell's contract makes him negative value. Covington and Morris are just filler to make the money work. Leaving us with Kobe Brown. Kobe Brown for Harden? That's not a fair deal without something more. Mann is a rotation player. Okay. Mann plus Brown, a rotation player and a low first. Plus what else? I'm sorry to say, but a disgruntled Harden in a contract is better than a rotation player and Brown. And if Harden chooses not to report to camp or come to camp out of shape, it will hurt his value in next season's free-agency market. The Sixers will get $36 mil off the books. I think Morey and Harris should give his agent the right to find a trade that a) doesn't add negative value, b) brings back a good player and/or c) brings back at least two future firsts or a future first plus Brown, if they want Brown.

[Negrodamus]

"We'll pay your fine if you just come back, baby"

- Josh Harris

[Mik317]

force the clippers to give us too much and get it done, Silver

[HardenGoat]

You can’t blame morey if he didn’t get a good enough offer for a top 20 player. This might be a blessing in disguise for James, comeback have a big year till the trade deadline and I’m sure he will find a team or just play well and wait for another team to pay him.

Going to the clippers was not a good option how injury ridden team they are. They ain’t wining jack. Philadelphia with Nurse, another year of maxey progress is in the mix. Not mentioning that 7’2 unbelievably skilled who he has immaculate chemistry with

The problem is that the Clippers have nothing to trade if they're not willing to trade future picks. Powell's contract makes him negative value. Covington and Morris are just filler to make the money work. Leaving us with Kobe Brown. Kobe Brown for Harden? That's not a fair deal without something more. Mann is a rotation player. Okay. Mann plus Brown, a rotation player and a low first. Plus what else? I'm sorry to say, but a disgruntled Harden in a contract is better than a rotation player and Brown. And if Harden chooses not to report to camp or come to camp out of shape, it will hurt his value in next season's free-agency market. The Sixers will get $36 mil off the books. I think Morey and Harris should give his agent the right to find a trade that a) doesn't add negative value, b) brings back a good player and/or c) brings back at least two future firsts or a future first plus Brown, if they want Brown.

Mann is on a good contract and Brown is like a FRP. Even with cap space next year you may not even get a player like Mann especially on his contract. That is certainly better than nothing, especially if Harden can't clear his mind up. Now if Harden goes all in and plays his best, that is a win for sure and you keep him. Iam sure that is what they are rolling the dice on, they can always trade him at the deadline if hes toxic.

[the_process]

"We have told Harden's agent he has our blessing to canvas the league for an acceptable trade."

Why that hasn't been announced yet, I don't know.

[Iverson Armband]

You can’t blame morey if he didn’t get a good enough offer for a top 20 player. This might be a blessing in disguise for James, comeback have a big year till the trade deadline and I’m sure he will find a team or just play well and wait for another team to pay him.

Going to the clippers was not a good option how injury ridden team they are. They ain’t wining jack. Philadelphia with Nurse, another year of maxey progress is in the mix. Not mentioning that 7’2 unbelievably skilled who he has immaculate chemistry with

The problem is that the Clippers have nothing to trade if they're not willing to trade future picks. Powell's contract makes him negative value. Covington and Morris are just filler to make the money work. Leaving us with Kobe Brown. Kobe Brown for Harden? That's not a fair deal without something more. Mann is a rotation player. Okay. Mann plus Brown, a rotation player and a low first. Plus what else? I'm sorry to say, but a disgruntled Harden in a contract is better than a rotation player and Brown. And if Harden chooses not to report to camp or come to camp out of shape, it will hurt his value in next season's free-agency market. The Sixers will get $36 mil off the books. I think Morey and Harris should give his agent the right to find a trade that a) doesn't add negative value, b) brings back a good player and/or c) brings back at least two future firsts or a future first plus Brown, if they want Brown.

You write Terrence Mann off as just a “rotational player”, what exactly do you expect to get back for a lazy choke artist who has publicly stated he won’t play here? Mann is comparable to if not better than Melton. What’s wrong with having two of those guys around Jo and Maxey? As stated, Kobe Brown is getting a FRP this year and then if the Clips throw in another future first, that’s a nice package. Mann on that contract is worth a late FRP himself like Melton was a year ago. Morey would be absolutely nuts not to accept a deal like that.

[Jailblazers7]

Shouldn’t the Clippers be the team under investigation? I’d be curious if his team had some discussion with LA about a trade before he opted in.

[Black Mage]

Shouldn’t the Clippers be the team under investigation? I’d be curious if his team had some discussion with LA about a trade before he opted in.

Given that they commented to a media person that Harden would be a "fit" with the team? Not sure how that doesn't warrant an investigation.

[eyeatoma]

"We have told Harden's agent he has our blessing to canvas the league for an acceptable trade."

Why that hasn't been announced yet, I don't know.

Linkage?

[eyeatoma]

Read on Twitter

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Jo looks slim, taking things very seriously, league on notice.

[hookshot199]

You can’t blame morey if he didn’t get a good enough offer for a top 20 player. This might be a blessing in disguise for James, comeback have a big year till the trade deadline and I’m sure he will find a team or just play well and wait for another team to pay him.

Going to the clippers was not a good option how injury ridden team they are. They ain’t wining jack. Philadelphia with Nurse, another year of maxey progress is in the mix. Not mentioning that 7’2 unbelievably skilled who he has immaculate chemistry with

The problem is that the Clippers have nothing to trade if they're not willing to trade future picks. Powell's contract makes him negative value. Covington and Morris are just filler to make the money work. Leaving us with Kobe Brown. Kobe Brown for Harden? That's not a fair deal without something more. Mann is a rotation player. Okay. Mann plus Brown, a rotation player and a low first. Plus what else? I'm sorry to say, but a disgruntled Harden in a contract is better than a rotation player and Brown. And if Harden chooses not to report to camp or come to camp out of shape, it will hurt his value in next season's free-agency market. The Sixers will get $36 mil off the books. I think Morey and Harris should give his agent the right to find a trade that a) doesn't add negative value, b) brings back a good player and/or c) brings back at least two future firsts or a future first plus Brown, if they want Brown.

Mann is on a good contract and Brown is like a FRP. Even with cap space next year you may not even get a player like Mann especially on his contract. That is certainly better than nothing, especially if Harden can't clear his mind up. Now if Harden goes all in and plays his best, that is a win for sure and you keep him. Iam sure that is what they are rolling the dice on, they can always trade him at the deadline if hes toxic.

We agree. But Mann and Brown a) aren't enough and b) definitely aren't enough if you have to take back negative value (Powell).

[hookshot199]

You can’t blame morey if he didn’t get a good enough offer for a top 20 player. This might be a blessing in disguise for James, comeback have a big year till the trade deadline and I’m sure he will find a team or just play well and wait for another team to pay him.

Going to the clippers was not a good option how injury ridden team they are. They ain’t wining jack. Philadelphia with Nurse, another year of maxey progress is in the mix. Not mentioning that 7’2 unbelievably skilled who he has immaculate chemistry with

The problem is that the Clippers have nothing to trade if they're not willing to trade future picks. Powell's contract makes him negative value. Covington and Morris are just filler to make the money work. Leaving us with Kobe Brown. Kobe Brown for Harden? That's not a fair deal without something more. Mann is a rotation player. Okay. Mann plus Brown, a rotation player and a low first. Plus what else? I'm sorry to say, but a disgruntled Harden in a contract is better than a rotation player and Brown. And if Harden chooses not to report to camp or come to camp out of shape, it will hurt his value in next season's free-agency market. The Sixers will get $36 mil off the books. I think Morey and Harris should give his agent the right to find a trade that a) doesn't add negative value, b) brings back a good player and/or c) brings back at least two future firsts or a future first plus Brown, if they want Brown.

You write Terrence Mann off as just a “rotational player”, what exactly do you expect to get back for a lazy choke artist who has publicly stated he won’t play here? Mann is comparable to if not better than Melton. What’s wrong with having two of those guys around Jo and Maxey? As stated, Kobe Brown is getting a FRP this year and then if the Clips throw in another future first, that’s a nice package. Mann on that contract is worth a late FRP himself like Melton was a year ago. Morey would be absolutely nuts not to accept a deal like that.

For the sake of argument, if the trade were Mann and Brown ONLY!, it might be worth it. But how do you get the numbers to work without taking back negative value. Powell's negative value. Good player but three years/$57 mil.

BTW: Are the Clippers offering Brown a future FRP and Mann?

[Iverson Armband]

The problem is that the Clippers have nothing to trade if they're not willing to trade future picks. Powell's contract makes him negative value. Covington and Morris are just filler to make the money work. Leaving us with Kobe Brown. Kobe Brown for Harden? That's not a fair deal without something more. Mann is a rotation player. Okay. Mann plus Brown, a rotation player and a low first. Plus what else? I'm sorry to say, but a disgruntled Harden in a contract is better than a rotation player and Brown. And if Harden chooses not to report to camp or come to camp out of shape, it will hurt his value in next season's free-agency market. The Sixers will get $36 mil off the books. I think Morey and Harris should give his agent the right to find a trade that a) doesn't add negative value, b) brings back a good player and/or c) brings back at least two future firsts or a future first plus Brown, if they want Brown.

You write Terrence Mann off as just a “rotational player”, what exactly do you expect to get back for a lazy choke artist who has publicly stated he won’t play here? Mann is comparable to if not better than Melton. What’s wrong with having two of those guys around Jo and Maxey? As stated, Kobe Brown is getting a FRP this year and then if the Clips throw in another future first, that’s a nice package. Mann on that contract is worth a late FRP himself like Melton was a year ago. Morey would be absolutely nuts not to accept a deal like that.

For the sake of argument, if the trade were Mann and Brown ONLY!, it might be worth it. But how do you get the numbers to work without taking back negative value. Powell's negative value. Good player but three years/$57 mil.

BTW: Are the Clippers offering Brown a future FRP and Mann?

Probably not, because I think without a doubt a deal would be done. Not accepting a deal of that nature at this juncture would be completely unreasonable. Also, you could get the numbers to work by including two of Covington/Batum/Morris who are all on expiring contracts.

Morris/Batum/Mann/Boston Jr./Brown/Future FRP (lottery protected) for Harden/Tucker is a solid deal that works financially.

[hookshot199]

You write Terrence Mann off as just a “rotational player”, what exactly do you expect to get back for a lazy choke artist who has publicly stated he won’t play here? Mann is comparable to if not better than Melton. What’s wrong with having two of those guys around Jo and Maxey? As stated, Kobe Brown is getting a FRP this year and then if the Clips throw in another future first, that’s a nice package. Mann on that contract is worth a late FRP himself like Melton was a year ago. Morey would be absolutely nuts not to accept a deal like that.

For the sake of argument, if the trade were Mann and Brown ONLY!, it might be worth it. But how do you get the numbers to work without taking back negative value. Powell's negative value. Good player but three years/$57 mil.

BTW: Are the Clippers offering Brown a future FRP and Mann?

Probably not, because I think without a doubt a deal would be done. Not accepting a deal of that nature at this juncture would be completely unreasonable. Also, you could get the numbers to work by including two of Covington/Batum/Morris who are all on expiring contracts.

I don't take the deal. I call Harden's bluff. None of the package you've mentioned makes us more competitive.

[Iverson Armband]

For the sake of argument, if the trade were Mann and Brown ONLY!, it might be worth it. But how do you get the numbers to work without taking back negative value. Powell's negative value. Good player but three years/$57 mil.

BTW: Are the Clippers offering Brown a future FRP and Mann?

Probably not, because I think without a doubt a deal would be done. Not accepting a deal of that nature at this juncture would be completely unreasonable. Also, you could get the numbers to work by including two of Covington/Batum/Morris who are all on expiring contracts.

I don't take the deal. I call Harden's bluff. None of the package you've mentioned makes us more competitive.

Sure, call Harden’s bluff and he will come back to the team being a year older and fatter with a schitt attitude. Sounds like a plan. He’s making us competitive right on up to another second round exit if we’re lucky at this point. If you’re content with that then be my guest, but keep in mind he also blocks Maxey.

Give me another potential starting piece in Mann, a promising rookie in Brown and a restock of the pick cupboard 10 times out of 10.

[hookshot199]

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Probably not, because I think without a doubt a deal would be done. Not accepting a deal of that nature at this juncture would be completely unreasonable. Also, you could get the numbers to work by including two of Covington/Batum/Morris who are all on expiring contracts.

I don't take the deal. I call Harden's bluff. None of the package you've mentioned makes us more competitive.

Dude, Harden will be a year older and fatter with a schitt attitude. He’s making us competitive right on up to another second round exit if we’re lucky at this point. If you’re content with that be my guest, but keep in mind he also blocks Maxey.

Give me another potential starting piece in Mann, a promising rookie in Brown and a restock of the pick cupboard 10 times out of 10.

Don't call me "Dude". We were one quarter away from the eastern finals with Embiid playing like sh*t. Harden has no place to go - and is under contract. I'll take any trade with Brown, Mann and a future FRP. Morey can flip Brown and the FRP for something of value. Let's see if they make the offer.