2005-’07: Dirk vs KG vs Nash

Matt15 · Post #1 » by **Matt15** » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:10 pm

How would you rank them from 1-3 for this 3 year stretch?

Colbinii · Post #2 » by **Colbinii** » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:17 pm

In terms of how good they were as players I would put KG > Nash > Dirk. Dirk really made big strides following 2006 and 2007 off-season to become the player he eventually peaked at from 2008-2011. KG and Nash were already in their final forms by 2005-2007.

Narigo · Post #3 » by **Narigo** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:12 am

Dirk
KG
Nash

Post #4 » by **Doctor MJ** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:56 am

Matt15 wrote:How would you rank them from 1-3 for this 3 year stretch?

So I'd point to two different evaluations:

Best at basketball:

1. KG
2. Nash
3. Dirk

Most accomplished within this duration:

1. Nash
2. Dirk
3. KG

canada_dry · Post #5 » by **canada_dry** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:23 am

Nash.
Dirk
Kg.

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Ryoga Hibiki · Post #6 » by **Ryoga Hibiki** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:10 am

Dirk
Nash

KG

AdagioPace · Post #7 » by **AdagioPace** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:05 am

KG is hard to evaluate. Both team results and impact signals seem inconsistent/volatile and decoupled.
He's still the best player in '05, while Nash and Dirk overtake him in 06 and 07 imo.
I'm also giving a look to the Retro POY project by the way.

all three inferior to TD in this 3 year interval though while Lebron is emerging strongly but still not refined enough.

ShaqAttac · Post #8 » by **ShaqAttac** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:14 pm

AdagioPace wrote:KG is hard to evaluate. Both team results and impact signals seem inconsistent/volatile and decoupled.
He's still the best player in '05, while Nash and Dirk overtake him in 06 and 07 imo.
I'm also giving a look to the Retro POY project by the way.

all three inferior to TD in this 3 year interval though while Lebron is emerging strongly but still not refined enough.

i mean nash saw a 20 win team win 60. idk how u can pick kg when he missed the pos.

also what about duncan

rk2023 · Post #9 » by **rk2023** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:29 pm

ShaqAttac wrote:
AdagioPace wrote:KG is hard to evaluate. Both team results and impact signals seem inconsistent/volatile and decoupled.
He's still the best player in '05, while Nash and Dirk overtake him in 06 and 07 imo.
I'm also giving a look to the Retro POY project by the way.

all three inferior to TD in this 3 year interval though while Lebron is emerging strongly but still not refined enough.

i mean nash saw a 20 win team win 60. idk how u can pick kg when he missed the pos.

also what about duncan

He had a down year in 2006 sort of recovering and all that. His 2007 and 2005 (when healthy) are underrated years, where I’d regard him as best in the world both cases. Ik you’re big into “impaact” - where he looks good there. 05 Spurs win pace with Timmy was obscene iirc

ShaqAttac · Post #10 » by **ShaqAttac** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:15 pm

rk2023 wrote:
ShaqAttac wrote:
AdagioPace wrote:KG is hard to evaluate. Both team results and impact signals seem inconsistent/volatile and decoupled.
He's still the best player in '05, while Nash and Dirk overtake him in 06 and 07 imo.
I'm also giving a look to the Retro POY project by the way.

all three inferior to TD in this 3 year interval though while Lebron is emerging strongly but still not refined enough.

i mean nash saw a 20 win team win 60. idk how u can pick kg when he missed the pos.

also what about duncan

He had a down year in 2006 sort of recovering and all that. His 2007 and 2005 (when healthy) are underrated years, where I’d regard him as best in the world both cases. Ik you’re big into “impaact” - where he looks good there. 05 Spurs win pace with Timmy was obscene iirc

what was it

rk2023 · Post #11 » by **rk2023** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:29 pm

ShaqAttac wrote:
rk2023 wrote:
ShaqAttac wrote:i mean nash saw a 20 win team win 60. idk how u can pick kg when he missed the pos.

also what about duncan

He had a down year in 2006 sort of recovering and all that. His 2007 and 2005 (when healthy) are underrated years, where I’d regard him as best in the world both cases. Ik you’re big into “impaact” - where he looks good there. 05 Spurs win pace with Timmy was obscene iirc

what was it

No clue about SOS adjustments, but 50-16 with a +10.9 Net-rating in games Big Fundamental suited up. 16.73/100 with Duncan on-court

Only 9-7 (-.82/100 in these games) when Duncan did not play.

Just checked PBPStats, which is where I’m getting this from.

ShaqAttac · Post #12 » by **ShaqAttac** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:37 pm

rk2023 wrote:
ShaqAttac wrote:
rk2023 wrote:
He had a down year in 2006 sort of recovering and all that. His 2007 and 2005 (when healthy) are underrated years, where I’d regard him as best in the world both cases. Ik you’re big into “impaact” - where he looks good there. 05 Spurs win pace with Timmy was obscene iirc

what was it

No clue about SOS adjustments, but 50-16 with a +10.9 Net-rating in games Big Fundamental suited up. 16.73/100 with Duncan on-court

Only 9-7 (-.82/100 in these games) when Duncan did not play.

Just checked PBPStats, which is where I’m getting this from.

woah. wasnt he past his peak?

duncan might be goated tbh

wafflzgod · Post #13 » by **wafflzgod** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:49 pm

I would go Nash > KG > Dirk