FIBA World Cup 2023 part 2 SEMIS (USA vs GERMANY : SERBIA vs CANADA) poll added

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Ingram is a throwback player to the early 2000s, he's completely and utterly lost at the concept of playing inside of a team structure where he isn't dominating the ball. It doesn't seem like he knows how to cut or get open either, just a really bad player for international play.

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[ROballer]

Reaves has been best player for 2 games.

Leading +/- on both games

using +/- for FIBA play is just not smart.

Reaves plays backups and some of the starters don't play once the game is out of hand.

Kerr is splitting the minutes almost evenly, there is no backup or starter on this team. All the guys play almost the same lineups.


And thus far, the Haliburton/Reaves/Banchero are leading the team in +/- and have blown wide open both games.
The guys who started played well below their standards especially in the first half of each game. In the game against Greece, the starters had negative +/- at half while the 3 guys mentioned above + Cam Johnson had a double digit +/-

And he also leads the team in EFF rating which is a calculous comprised on every damn thing done on the stat sheet.
You can absolutely make an argument about Reaves being the best player on the team thus far. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to make an argument for anyone else, except maybe Banch or Haliburton.

[Dacost]

Well yea or duh !!

Teams come out playing hard in the first few minutes and eventually their lack of depth kills them once Haliburton/Reaves/Banchero come in.

I'm not hating on Reaves I do agree he has been playing well but using +/- for FIBA is just insane in order to make an argument.

It's ridiculous.

[zimpy27]

Ingram is a throwback player to the early 2000s, he's completely and utterly lost at the concept of playing inside of a team structure where he isn't dominating the ball. It doesn't seem like he knows how to cut or get open either, just a really bad player for international play.

A select few of us has been saying this is why he shouldn't be on the team with Zion. But at the same time, Zion hasn't been healthy enough to make an issue of it

[ROballer]

Well yea or duh !!

Teams come out playing hard in the first few minutes and eventually their lack of depth kills them once Haliburton/Reaves/Banchero come in.

I'm not hating on Reaves I do agree he has been playing well but using +/- for FIBA is just insane in order to make an argument.

It's ridiculous.

The other teams are not necessarily using the same minutes distribution. It doesn't mean when the 3 mentioned come to play for the first time, the other team yanks it's starters.

Kerr routinely subbed them in after playing the starters 4-5 minutes tops for Pete's sake. Let's not act Reaves is playing the other team's 7-12 guys because that is a flat out lie.

The minutes are staggered, Reaves plays the same guys the starters are playing for huge chunks of time and viceversa.

If you don't like the +/- stat ignore it and just watch the game, the eye test supports the theory as well. Best 3 guys through two games for team USA have been Haliburton/Reaves and Banchero and it really is as simple as that. Every stat in the book and the eye test on top support this. I guess it might be true? Duh..

[Liam_Gallagher]

Austin Reaves is just really, really good.

Keep that contract in mind when Giannis is a free agent.

[Residual-Heat]

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well deserved. Austin has now led the team with assists for the past two games.

[MagicMamba88]

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[DaGawd]

josh hart 6 points 11 rebounds 5 assist

[Jadoogar]

It's absolutely criminal that the capspace teams didn't throw an offer at Reaves.
Spurs especially, he would have been an awesome fit with Wemby. Best case, you get your guard of the future. Worst case, you make the lakers pay more to keep their team together. It's not like they did anything meaningful with their capspace.

[DaGawd]

It's absolutely criminal that the capspace teams didn't throw an offer at Reaves.
Spurs especially, he would have been an awesome fit with Wemby. Best case, you get your guard of the future. Worst case, you make the lakers pay more to keep their team together. It's not like they did anything meaningful with their capspace.

it’s not that crazy. he could’ve easily been a by product of getting a boost playing with 2 star players and defenses not focusing on him. i get why a rebuilding team wouldn’t throw crazy money at him

[sunsbg]

French association is a bunch of idiots, like all the other virtue-signalling morons.

Yeah no, this is not virtue signaling. This is a real issue. F*** R*****

If the same applied to the US and NATO bombing the **** out of the Middle East and Yugoslavia, then I would maybe agree.

US and Russia. Two sides of the same coin. Geopolitical interests in two words.

[JeffReal]

It's absolutely criminal that the capspace teams didn't throw an offer at Reaves.
Spurs especially, he would have been an awesome fit with Wemby. Best case, you get your guard of the future. Worst case, you make the lakers pay more to keep their team together. It's not like they did anything meaningful with their capspace.

As I understand it, if a team makes an offer it ties up their cap space until the offer is decided, one way or the other. It’s rumored that the Spurs seriously considered making an offer to Reaves, but they didn’t want to tie up their cap space in the middle of free agent season, for a player they probably wouldn’t get. Reportedly, the Lakers would do whatever it took to retain Reaves.

So basically, the Spurs didn’t want to take a chance on missing an opportunity, with their cap space committed to a pointless offer. So people say, anyway.

[Liam_Gallagher]

It's absolutely criminal that the capspace teams didn't throw an offer at Reaves.
Spurs especially, he would have been an awesome fit with Wemby. Best case, you get your guard of the future. Worst case, you make the lakers pay more to keep their team together. It's not like they did anything meaningful with their capspace.

it’s not that crazy. he could’ve easily been a by product of getting a boost playing with 2 star players and defenses not focusing on him. i get why a rebuilding team wouldn’t throw crazy money at him

So signing Cedi Osman and Cam Payne was a better idea?

[DaGawd]

It's absolutely criminal that the capspace teams didn't throw an offer at Reaves.
Spurs especially, he would have been an awesome fit with Wemby. Best case, you get your guard of the future. Worst case, you make the lakers pay more to keep their team together. It's not like they did anything meaningful with their capspace.

it’s not that crazy. he could’ve easily been a by product of getting a boost playing with 2 star players and defenses not focusing on him. i get why a rebuilding team wouldn’t throw crazy money at him

So signing Cedi Osman and Cam Payne was a better idea?

never said that

[___Rand___]

David Blatt in Jakarta working as consultant for Team Canada.

Great to see him on the sidelines at team Canada games.

https://hoopswire.com/ex-cavs-coach-david-blatt-serving-as-consultant-for-canadian-national-team/

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[Muizha]

Cool story from Latvian camp, there was also video. Will post it, if I see it again

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Here's the video(partially in Latvian):
https://youtu.be/OBt90qXdMLk?si=ZqS6fhbi65R8DT0H

[Jadoogar]

It's absolutely criminal that the capspace teams didn't throw an offer at Reaves.
Spurs especially, he would have been an awesome fit with Wemby. Best case, you get your guard of the future. Worst case, you make the lakers pay more to keep their team together. It's not like they did anything meaningful with their capspace.

As I understand it, if a team makes an offer it ties up their cap space until the offer is decided, one way or the other. It’s rumored that the Spurs seriously considered making an offer to Reaves, but they didn’t want to tie up their cap space in the middle of free agent season, for a player they probably wouldn’t get. Reportedly, the Lakers would do whatever it took to retain Reaves.

So basically, the Spurs didn’t want to take a chance on missing an opportunity, with their cap space committed to a pointless offer. So people say, anyway.

Yes that is the reason. But what did they do with their capspace? Take on a some bad contracts for SRPs? Those types of deals would have been available later on too. You can ask someone to wait 48 hours.

[phanman]

It's absolutely criminal that the capspace teams didn't throw an offer at Reaves.
Spurs especially, he would have been an awesome fit with Wemby. Best case, you get your guard of the future. Worst case, you make the lakers pay more to keep their team together. It's not like they did anything meaningful with their capspace.

As I understand it, if a team makes an offer it ties up their cap space until the offer is decided, one way or the other. It’s rumored that the Spurs seriously considered making an offer to Reaves, but they didn’t want to tie up their cap space in the middle of free agent season, for a player they probably wouldn’t get. Reportedly, the Lakers would do whatever it took to retain Reaves.

So basically, the Spurs didn’t want to take a chance on missing an opportunity, with their cap space committed to a pointless offer. So people say, anyway.

Yes that is the reason. But what did they do with their capspace? Take on a some bad contracts for SRPs? Those types of deals would have been available later on too. You can ask someone to wait 48 hours.

Reaves + Wemby PnR/PnP game next season would have been so exciting. I think the Spurs shat the bed and overvalued Malaki and Tre to make a real run at Austin.

Going into free agency with all the money they had, the could have afford to tie up their cap space at the beginning of free agency. They weren't actively trying to sign the top tier free agents and sticking it to the Lakers I thought would have been enough to steal him from LA.