FIBA World Cup 2023 part 2 SEMIS (USA vs GERMANY : SERBIA vs CANADA) poll added

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new WORLD CHAMPIONS will be?

Poll ended at Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:22 pm

USA
29
43%
Germany
4
6%
Canada
29
43%
Serbia
6
9%
 
Total votes: 68

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Re: FIBA World Cup 2023 part 2 (Dominican rep., Lithuania, Germany, Canada finish first phase undefeated) 

Post#661 » by UcanUwill » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:49 pm

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cupcakesnake wrote:I get that Giannis, Calathes, Sloukas, Dorsey and others aren't playing and that Greece has missing talent, but I miss the Diamantidis, Papaloukas era. Greece hasn't quite found an identity in the Giannis era.

With Giannis they haven’t really played Eurotype of basketball and that has affected their identity.


With Giannis you really shouldn't, they simply has had too many literal non shooters around Giannis, papaG can't shoot, Calathes can't shoot, teams just pack the paint or zone them.
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Post#662 » by UcanUwill » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:58 pm

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Post#663 » by Sedale Threatt » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:01 pm

Jabroni Lames wrote:After the US actually took these competitions seriously, they’ve been unbeatable. I remember Coach K talking about opposition players like “number 6 is really”. Lol. USA did zero scouting of their opponents and zero team preparation, until their complete disrespect of the competition caught up with them and they got embarrassed.


We'd definitely been rolling out the ball for years before that, but we had excellent participation with a historic crop of great young players and had every intention of winning that tournament. We just didn't because Greece played a great game when it mattered, which illustrates how fraught single-elimination tournaments really are. All it takes is one game. That was their Miracle on Ice or Villanova over Georgetown moment. But it wasn't because we were f'ing around or half-assing it. Everything about that team was billed as a reset and they just didn't get it done.
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Post#664 » by Phreak50 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:11 pm

TheFutureMM wrote:They are also fighting to automatically qualify for next summer's second chance tourney. If they win against Greece, they can avoid all of the nonsense with the 17 - 32 classification.


What’s the second chance tournament?
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Post#665 » by UcanUwill » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:14 pm

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Post#667 » by durden_tyler » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:21 pm

New Zealand is just shook despite that great first half. Greece just a different quality over their counterparts.
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Post#668 » by UcanUwill » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:26 pm

Larentzakis is just remastered Spanoulis lol. Man is ice in clutch moments.
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Post#669 » by durden_tyler » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:29 pm

Thanks for the win Greece! More to bet entering the next rounds. LOL
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Post#670 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:54 pm

Honestly I thought Greece would fall apart and start fighting among themselves at any moment. Proud of them that they held it together and finished the job. Every slim chance to an Olympic ticket must be pursued.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 2023 part 2 (Dominica, Lithuania, Germany, Canada finish first phase undefeated) 

Post#671 » by remiga007 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:01 pm

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durden_tyler wrote:And yet still more exciting than soccer. LOL

For whom? Only for US I suppose, as literally all 200+ countries in the world enjoy football far far more than NFL. And being American sport has nothing to do with it, NBA does awesome outside of US.
NFL is just so boring, it's quite unbelievable.
Tried watching super bowl a few years ago, had to turn it off after like 20 minutes, there were literally 10 seconds of play interrupted by minutes of not doing ANYTHING. A few of my friends watched it separately from me, I asked them next day how was it - they only watched for the commercials, the gameplay had no flow whatsoever, they all agreed on it.

Around 99% of people outside of US get excited about football more than NFL, even with flopping etc. So congrats being American I suppose.


American football isn't meant to be continuous like soccer is. Personally I find soccer boring because while there's continuous play, 99% of the time there's no real threat of goal scoring or any advantage creation. In football there's a discrete event every 40 seconds with a chance something exciting will happen. It feel more like a chess match - given a certain game situation and down and distance, which play should the offense call and how will the defense counter it?

The commercial breaks are an issue but that's an American thing, not a football thing necessarily (and it's particularly bad during the Super Bowl). And I feel it's worse in basketball, which is a sport intended to be more continuous so stoppages in play whether it be due to commercials or free throws really kill the flow

Well, I might give NFL a second chance with a non Super Bowl game then :)
I like your thoughts but kinda disagree that 99% of the time there's no goal scoring chance creation. Literally a pass from a goalkeeper through all field can lead to a chance if, for example, offside trap fails. And I agree that there are some boring soccer games, but it does happen in every sport from chess to basketball, I guess.
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Post#672 » by Meeksology » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:02 pm

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Post#673 » by Bodiroga13 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:02 pm

durden_tyler wrote:Thanks for the win Greece! More to bet entering the next rounds. LOL


You're welcome my friend. Now, next rounds regarding, i can't promise you anything, we're talentless, but for sure we're no trash.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 2023 part 2 (Dominican rep., Lithuania, Germany, Canada finish first phase undefeated) 

Post#674 » by GusT15 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:05 pm

Come on guys,you can't really criticize Greece for the way they're playing.

They're missing their entire starting line up

Calathes
Sloukas
Dorsey
Giannis
Mitoglou

And Kostas Antetokounmpo as well.
They are fielding a really weak team,if anything they should be applauded that they made it to the top16 and didn't crumble when down 15.

(On a personal note,i really hope Greece makes the Olympic tournament,i wanna see Giannis carry the flag opening the ceremony in Paris)
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Post#675 » by Residual-Heat » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:06 pm

Looks like Ingram played well coming off the bench. 7 points, 5 assists in 15 mins
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Post#677 » by Saints14 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:22 pm

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Saints14 wrote:
remiga007 wrote:For whom? Only for US I suppose, as literally all 200+ countries in the world enjoy football far far more than NFL. And being American sport has nothing to do with it, NBA does awesome outside of US.
NFL is just so boring, it's quite unbelievable.
Tried watching super bowl a few years ago, had to turn it off after like 20 minutes, there were literally 10 seconds of play interrupted by minutes of not doing ANYTHING. A few of my friends watched it separately from me, I asked them next day how was it - they only watched for the commercials, the gameplay had no flow whatsoever, they all agreed on it.

Around 99% of people outside of US get excited about football more than NFL, even with flopping etc. So congrats being American I suppose.


American football isn't meant to be continuous like soccer is. Personally I find soccer boring because while there's continuous play, 99% of the time there's no real threat of goal scoring or any advantage creation. In football there's a discrete event every 40 seconds with a chance something exciting will happen. It feel more like a chess match - given a certain game situation and down and distance, which play should the offense call and how will the defense counter it?

The commercial breaks are an issue but that's an American thing, not a football thing necessarily (and it's particularly bad during the Super Bowl). And I feel it's worse in basketball, which is a sport intended to be more continuous so stoppages in play whether it be due to commercials or free throws really kill the flow

Well, I might give NFL a second chance with a non Super Bowl game then :)
I like your thoughts but kinda disagree that 99% of the time there's no goal scoring chance creation. Literally a pass from a goalkeeper through all field can lead to a chance if, for example, offside trap fails. And I agree that there are some boring soccer games, but it does happen in every sport from chess to basketball, I guess.


I'd highly recommend it! Unfortunately all primetime games are pretty bad with commercial breaks, but if you ever catch a regular one it's not too bad.

Yeah that was definitely a bit harsh towards soccer, I like how UcanUwill put it:

UcanUwill wrote:That's why it's suspense thriller and why I compare to Hitchcock. Hitchcock said, suspense is not putting two characters behind table and then table explodes. It's about putting characters behind table you know where bomb is, but not knowing when or if at all bomb will explode.
That's why even tho I like bb better, I think soccer is objectively better. basketball is trading baskets sport, you sit down and you know you will see 100 little explosions and that's entertaining. Soccer is sitting and knowing atomic bomb can just blow up, and you watch numerous players desperately trying to launch that bomb. and you either think it is stupid waiting game ir you think it's best a hole tightening time you will have.


I'd still prefer the anxiety of a team needing to convert a 3rd down to keep a critical drive alive, but I can see how this continuous low-level tension is appealing. Probably comes down to rooting interest, since I'm not a fan of any soccer team I wouldn't feel that tension myself
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Re: FIBA World Cup 2023 part 2 (Dominican rep., Lithuania, Germany, Canada finish first phase undefeated) 

Post#678 » by durden_tyler » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:28 pm

Saints14 wrote:
remiga007 wrote:
Saints14 wrote:
American football isn't meant to be continuous like soccer is. Personally I find soccer boring because while there's continuous play, 99% of the time there's no real threat of goal scoring or any advantage creation. In football there's a discrete event every 40 seconds with a chance something exciting will happen. It feel more like a chess match - given a certain game situation and down and distance, which play should the offense call and how will the defense counter it?

The commercial breaks are an issue but that's an American thing, not a football thing necessarily (and it's particularly bad during the Super Bowl). And I feel it's worse in basketball, which is a sport intended to be more continuous so stoppages in play whether it be due to commercials or free throws really kill the flow

Well, I might give NFL a second chance with a non Super Bowl game then :)
I like your thoughts but kinda disagree that 99% of the time there's no goal scoring chance creation. Literally a pass from a goalkeeper through all field can lead to a chance if, for example, offside trap fails. And I agree that there are some boring soccer games, but it does happen in every sport from chess to basketball, I guess.


I'd highly recommend it! Unfortunately all primetime games are pretty bad with commercial breaks, but if you ever catch a regular one it's not too bad.

Yeah that was definitely a bit harsh towards soccer, I like how UcanUwill put it:

UcanUwill wrote:That's why it's suspense thriller and why I compare to Hitchcock. Hitchcock said, suspense is not putting two characters behind table and then table explodes. It's about putting characters behind table you know where bomb is, but not knowing when or if at all bomb will explode.
That's why even tho I like bb better, I think soccer is objectively better. basketball is trading baskets sport, you sit down and you know you will see 100 little explosions and that's entertaining. Soccer is sitting and knowing atomic bomb can just blow up, and you watch numerous players desperately trying to launch that bomb. and you either think it is stupid waiting game ir you think it's best a hole tightening time you will have.


I'd still prefer the anxiety of a team needing to convert a 3rd down to keep a critical drive alive, but I can see how this continuous low-level tension is appealing. Probably comes down to rooting interest, since I'm not a fan of any soccer team I wouldn't feel that tension myself

Yeah as long as any fan is invested in ANY sport, potentially you can enjoy that sport (like if i have a bet on a soccer team, maybe i’ll watch it LOL)

That’s why Olympics is different in that sense since we are rooting for our countries, we’ll enjoy watching Artistic Gymnastics for example even if we understand 0.01% of the rules. LOL
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Post#679 » by Mavrelous » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:31 pm

10 European teams, 5 American teams and Australia, no Asian or African team made it to the 2nd round.
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Post#680 » by durden_tyler » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:39 pm

Probable road to Gold Medal match this World Cup

QF
Serbia vs Lithuania
Dominican Republic va USA
Slovenia vs Spain
Canada vs Germany

SF
Serbia vs USA
Slovenia vs Canada

F
USA vs Canada

Of course a lot can happen in the 2nd round. But the crucial ones are obviously these ones since these matchupa will decide the seeds;

Spain vs Canada in Group L
Slovenia vs Germany vs Australia in Group K
Greece vs Lithuania in Group J
DOM va Italy vs Serbia in Group I

Group I and J i think are pretty much set but who knows if Italy and Greece plays better
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