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MVP2110 · Post #101 » by **MVP2110** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:51 pm

tedbrogen wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
emunney wrote:I think TyTy has a lot of potential in the PnR. Smart, accurate passer, good feet, nice midrange pullup. He's kind of similar to Gortman in a lot of his strengths, so I wonder if they're competing for one spot.

Im kind of assuming that they want to promote Wiggington to regular contract if they make a 2 for 1 trade. Meh

Gross.

Cut Wigginton and give Gortman that 2way. Let TyTy, Gortman, & Omari Moore battle all season for the backup PG role and bump the winner to the 15 before the playoffs

M-C-G · Post #102 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:06 pm

ReginaldDwight wrote:
buckboy wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Worlds best recruiter and one of the worst coaches in the world.

There was a time that he was a good coach. I don't think he is anymore.

He's definitely not "one of the worst " though.

Part of what makes him a good coach is his ability to get guys into the league. UK is the NBA factory right now.

That is definitively what makes him a good recruiter. And yeah, I was being hyperbolic saying he was one of the worst coaches. I can say that I think he is a bad coach that simply has about 200% the amount of talent on the roster as any other opponent that he is typically matched against.

RogerMurdock · Post #103 » by **RogerMurdock** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:32 pm

Cal's a great recruiter based on past reputation and the name of the school. He's not a great coach, at least not anymore. He always blames the players when the team underperforms. The old "it's tough to win with a bunch of freshmen" excuse at press conferences. Coach K did that a bunch once he embraced the "one-and-done" recruit (though he's an infinitely better coach than Cal).

Ron Swanson · Post #104 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:55 pm

Yeah I've seen enough of Wiggington. Not even that big of a Gortman fan, but at least he's a worthy flier to take. Especially with AJ Green now rostered, the Bryn Forbes "undersized SG" role as been adequately filled.

GoldenAntlers · Post #105 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:08 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Yeah I've seen enough of Wiggington. Not even that big of a Gortman fan, but at least he's a worthy flier to take. Especially with AJ Green now rostered, the Bryn Forbes "undersized SG" role as been adequately filled.

Wigs has had many chances and we all know his ceiling is lower than the required floor. Please make better use of this spot Horst.

emunney · Post #106 » by **emunney** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:26 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:Cal's a great recruiter based on past reputation and the name of the school. He's not a great coach, at least not anymore. He always blames the players when the team underperforms. The old "it's tough to win with a bunch of freshmen" excuse at press conferences. Coach K did that a bunch once he embraced the "one-and-done" recruit (though he's an infinitely better coach than Cal).

It's true, though, about the bunch of freshmen. No substitute for experience. What's nonsense is him throwing them under the bus as if it's not the life he chose.

DingleJerry · Post #107 » by **DingleJerry** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:46 pm

If you watched some of those press conferences I wouldn't call it throwing under the bus. Most of the time he was defending the kids from criticism, standing up for them. Essentially saying "hey stop bashing these 18/19 year olds they're just freshman". In the process of course its creating an excuse for himself but every time I saw him talking, he was doing it from a support the kid perspective or at least spinning it that way. After watching several of those conferences over the years I was swayed from being a hater on him.

But yea no one is gonna say he's some Xs and Os genius. Might even say his skill development isn't great since he gets supremely talented kids to begin with. But seems to me whatever NBA prep/training they do has generally been good.

emunney · Post #108 » by **emunney** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:27 pm

Not something we've been talking about but Bobby has been awesome in the World Cup.

Daver · Post #109 » by **Daver** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:48 pm

emunney wrote:Not something we've been talking about but Bobby has been awesome in the World Cup.

Does the majority of this board think portis got enough minutes per game last year.My opinion is im not sure i saw alot of 12 13 14 min games n not many upper 20 minute games

emunney · Post #110 » by **emunney** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:50 pm

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Daver · Post #111 » by **Daver** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:53 pm

Looks like im watching trae young 2.0 with those floaters i liked what i saw

Post #112 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:57 pm

Watch on YouTube

Scores in a lot of ways.

emunney · Post #113 » by **emunney** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:57 pm

Daver wrote:Looks like im watching trae young 2.0 with those floaters i liked what i saw

He's got good touch and timing on lobs, too. The basis of a PnR operator is there.

SupremeHustle · Post #114 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:03 pm

TyTy kinda reminds me of Markell Fultz. I like Fultz.

RogerMurdock · Post #115 » by **RogerMurdock** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:17 pm

When I first saw the announcement about Washington, I thought it said Wigginton and, in turn, thought the Bucks signed another player's brother. I was like, hmm, that's an odd favor.

crowhead76 · Post #116 » by **crowhead76** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:10 pm

Daver wrote:
emunney wrote:Not something we've been talking about but Bobby has been awesome in the World Cup.

Does the majority of this board think portis got enough minutes per game last year.My opinion is im not sure i saw alot of 12 13 14 min games n not many upper 20 minute games

Portis is not getting a ton of minutes on the World Cup team either. He seems to be an unusual fit often times on the court. The attitude he brings and ability to create camaraderie may be some of his greatest traits other than being a professional scorer.

M-C-G · Post #117 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:04 pm

Daver wrote:
emunney wrote:Not something we've been talking about but Bobby has been awesome in the World Cup.

Does the majority of this board think portis got enough minutes per game last year.My opinion is im not sure i saw alot of 12 13 14 min games n not many upper 20 minute games

I think we need to throw out expectations a bit and see what AG wants to do with these guys. Bud seemed more fixed on building the D around Brook which worked out well, but I won't be shocked if everything changes. Hell maybe Brook even comes off the bench, who knows. Let him thrive against second units and keep the starters more nimble and switching, doesn't matter to me.

buckboy · Post #118 » by **buckboy** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:10 pm

He played in 70 games last year and played 21:30 + in all but 10. Most of those that he missed the mark were around the time of his injury in January/February.

Averaged 26 MPG, 2nd most of his career. His minutes seem fine to me.

Post #119 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:51 pm

Am convinced that part of a players appeal as a prospect is how cool their name is. First observed this years ago with Ike Diogu.

On draft night 2022, the idea of selecting TyTy Washington appealed to me, partly because he's got a great hoops name.

MVP2110 · Post #120 » by **MVP2110** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:20 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Am convinced that part of a players appeal as a prospect is how cool their name is. First observed this years ago with Ike Diogu.

On draft night 2022, the idea of selecting TyTy Washington appealed to me, partly because he's got a great hoops name.

Definitely no chance a dude with a generic name like Joe Smith would ever go #1 overall