FIBA World Cup 2023 part 2 SEMIS (USA vs GERMANY : SERBIA vs CANADA) poll added

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new WORLD CHAMPIONS will be?

Poll ended at Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:22 pm

USA
29
43%
Germany
4
6%
Canada
29
43%
Serbia
6
9%
 
Total votes: 68

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Re: FIBA World Cup 2023 part 2 (Dominican rep., Lithuania, Germany, Canada finish first phase undefeated) 

Post#741 » by LuDux1 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:47 am

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Mamba81p wrote:Primarily those who don't ha e a long tradition( Greece, serbia, Lithuania), but nations that grew exponentially in the last 3 decades like Germany and spain and others


Greece, Serbia and Lithuania don't have a long tradition??
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cosic-dalipagic-kikanovic,... in Serbia
zalgiris kaunas of sabonis-chomicius-kurtinaitis in Lithuania


And before that won Eurobasket in 1937 and 1939. 86 years and counting
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Post#742 » by UcanUwill » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:20 am

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Phreak50 wrote:NZ looking tired. A 15 hour turnaround between games and down 17 at the half.

I was about to say. Back to backs are pretty much unthinkable outside of the NBA. They do them in the youth international tournaments as well, but I can understand why NZ just can't handle it.


heartbreaing and super tiresome game lost less than 20 hours before this match...
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Post#743 » by durden_tyler » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:22 am

Yes this is FIBA just being greedy. Give them the day off and add 2PM or earlier games even.
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Post#744 » by LuDux1 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:24 am

Ville5 wrote:By the way, Latvia won the very first EuroBasket in 1935. Spain was the runner-up.




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Post#745 » by Phreak50 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:49 am

Messy but entertaining end to NZ vs Mexico.

Turnovers, technicals, yet some accurate three point shooting.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 2023 part 2 (Dominican rep., Lithuania, Germany, Canada finish first phase undefeated) 

Post#746 » by og15 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:05 am

LuDux1 wrote:
mcmurphy wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:Primarily those who don't ha e a long tradition( Greece, serbia, Lithuania), but nations that grew exponentially in the last 3 decades like Germany and spain and others


Greece, Serbia and Lithuania don't have a long tradition??
:crazy: :lol:

in 70s-80s
galis-giannakis,... in Greece
cosic-dalipagic-kikanovic,... in Serbia
zalgiris kaunas of sabonis-chomicius-kurtinaitis in Lithuania


And before that won Eurobasket in 1937 and 1939. 86 years and counting
Probably the formatting, but I believe that poster was giving the examples in brackets as teams that DO have a long tradition.
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Post#747 » by UcanUwill » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:16 am

og15 wrote:
LuDux1 wrote:
mcmurphy wrote:
Greece, Serbia and Lithuania don't have a long tradition??
:crazy: :lol:

in 70s-80s
galis-giannakis,... in Greece
cosic-dalipagic-kikanovic,... in Serbia
zalgiris kaunas of sabonis-chomicius-kurtinaitis in Lithuania


And before that won Eurobasket in 1937 and 1939. 86 years and counting
Probably the formatting, but I believe that poster was giving the examples in brackets as teams that DO have a long tradition.


Yeah, I got it.... He says he wonders hows things in countries with not long tradition, NOT countries like Serbia and Lithuania, that obviously are the opposite. Reading guys, reading.
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Post#748 » by UcanUwill » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:18 am

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Ville5 wrote:By the way, Latvia won the very first EuroBasket in 1935. Spain was the runner-up.




No translation


Latvia won first Eurobasket, meaning at the time they will have to host next one, and they just decided to invite Lithuania to participate. So basically, Latvians are responsible for all Lithuanian basketball.
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Post#749 » by Nuntius » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:29 am

og15 wrote:
LuDux1 wrote:
mcmurphy wrote:
Greece, Serbia and Lithuania don't have a long tradition??
:crazy: :lol:

in 70s-80s
galis-giannakis,... in Greece
cosic-dalipagic-kikanovic,... in Serbia
zalgiris kaunas of sabonis-chomicius-kurtinaitis in Lithuania


And before that won Eurobasket in 1937 and 1939. 86 years and counting
Probably the formatting, but I believe that poster was giving the examples in brackets as teams that DO have a long tradition.


Yeah, that's what I think as well. It's worded in a funky way but that's the only way that the post makes sense.
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Post#750 » by Nuntius » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:37 am

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New Zealand is pushing for the Qualifying Tournament, there is a best Asia/Oceania spot left.

Assuming Japan makes the Olympics directly themselvez as the Asian direct berth, New Zealand can make the qualifying tourney if they take care of business in their games.


Ok cool, thank you.

I knew there were qualifying games for the Olympics but didn’t think another Oceania team could make it.


They can either make it as the best Asian/Oceania team or just by their overall classification. And they probably will, judging they already have a win from the first group phase.

The Olympic Qualifying tourney has 24 teams participating. 5 of them have qualified in the last 10 days via the Pre-Olimpic tourney.

The teams who made the main group phase have already a guaranteed spot for next summer's Qualifying tourney.
But 5 of them will qualify directly for the Olympics, 2 from Europe, 2 from the Americas. + Australia.

So the remaining 11 teams will be participating in the Qualifying tournament + 5 teams from the prequalifiers(Poland, Croatia, Bahamas, Bahrain and Cameroon) + best team from Asia/Oceania + best team from Africa(actually second best technically, the best teams from Asia and Africa make the Olympics directly).

18 spots filled, 6 remaining. Probably between Finland, New Zealand, China, Jordan, Angola, Cote d'Ivoire, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, Phillipines, Mexico.
Assuming South Sudan and Japan make it directly for the Olympics.
Also probably New Zealand and any other African nation have another direct berth to the Qualifying tournament.

Out of these, 6 make it as well even though they have lost most of their games thus far.


Basically long story short, almost every damn team in this tournament, with very few exceptions...will be at worst in the Olympics qualifying tournament as well.

That's why you still see guys like Markkanen busting their asses against Cape Verde for what seems a meaningless purpose, Finland can't even get classified in the top 20 most likely. But there's still that spot up for grabs, that's why the teams will go all in even in these consolation groups.


Yep. I will say that this format while not without its flaws, does make the classification games of the World Cup a ton more interesting than they used to be.
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Post#751 » by Nuntius » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:45 am

Cote d'Ivoire losing to Lebanon is a mild surprise. It also cost me two separate bets. Oh well, live and learn.
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Post#752 » by ROballer » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:54 am

Japan wetting the bed against Venezuela. If they don't pull out a win here the Saturday games have a lot more meaning.
China, Lebanon and even the Phillipines if they beat South Sudan can steal their Olympic spot.
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Post#753 » by Buckets22 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:24 pm

Wow, outside of Finland the betting favourites are **** the bed - NZ, Angola and now Japan playing really bad.

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Post#754 » by Phreak50 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:47 pm

Slovenia vs Australia is a tough one to pick.

On form, I'd think Slovenia would win fairly comfortably.

Australia has been disappointing and the coaching and rotation has made it worse.

Other than shutting down Lauri, the defense on team's best players has been poor.

On the other hand, they have Thybulle, Green and Exum who will make Luka work for everything and might be the toughest team, d wise, Slovenia has faced.

I really hope it is reffed well. I have not agreed with maybe a third of Luka's million free throw calls so far.
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Post#755 » by iggymcfrack » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:49 pm

Honestly feel like Japan and Venezuela is the most fun game I’ve watched so far.
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Post#756 » by Buckets22 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:50 pm

Japan rallying behind the banners! What a play to take the lead.
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Post#757 » by makubesu » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:54 pm

It was like this verse Australia too: better down the stretch. I wonder if this is rotations, and not a conditioning thing.
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Post#758 » by iggymcfrack » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:54 pm

OMG, what an insane quarter for Japan!!! Hiejima’s hotter than the rising sun!!!
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Post#760 » by Buckets22 » Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:21 pm

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