FIBA World Cup 2023 part 2 SEMIS (USA vs GERMANY : SERBIA vs CANADA) poll added

[Quentin]

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Can't be right. Edwards is 21st with no other American above him. From everything I've read here Edwards is a black hole. Yet I believe he's one of the leaders in assists for the team. Last game his teammates missed a lot of shots he set them up for too. Some of the people that post here need to learn the game.

[Zeno]

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Can't be right. Edwards is 21st with no other American above him. From everything I've read here Edwards is a black hole. Yet I believe he's one of the leaders in assists for the team. Last game his teammates missed a lot of shots he set them up for too. Some of the people that post here need to learn the game.

It is a matter too of minutes played and usage. None of the Americans really needs to play all that much or take on a really big load yet.

[UcanUwill]

I have no clue what this global rating is, but its funny how Klemen Prepelič plays so well for Slovenia vile always sucking so bad in club play. His entire club career built on fact he looks great in international competitions with Doncic. SLovenian play played him into Real Madrid contract, literally.

[Buckets22]

The Philippines lack a tiny bit in each match to pull off a W. Sad.
I see that their main sponsor is a beer company, they should gift each kid daily pint of milk in school.

[durden_tyler]

The Philippines lack a tiny bit in each match to pull off a W. Sad.
I see that their main sponsor is a beer company, they should gift each kid daily pint of milk in school.

Nah, we’re readying those beers after this atrocious performance.

[durden_tyler]

I hope South Sudan tops that African Olympic spot race, they really have the speed and athleticism and shooting to at least be competitive in France.

[Buckets22]

The fat Jordanian guard messing up 3 possessions in a row in the crunch. No falafels for a month.

[lambchop]

I have no clue what this global rating is, but its funny how Klemen Prepelič plays so well for Slovenia vile always sucking so bad in club play. His entire club career built on fact he looks great in international competitions with Doncic. SLovenian play played him into Real Madrid contract, literally.

Always plays with either the best PG in Europe or top two at worst (days when he was playing with Goran Dragic) on the Slovenian national team. In club play he usually plays alongside some combo guards in Valencia. He also looked like an awesome scorer with Badalona.

As for Madrid, imo playing for Real isn't for everybody. They usually ask their players to do a bunch of different things and guys have to be ready to impact the game regardless of the minutes they play. Prepelic plays better when he can kind of roam freely on offense and take a mix of high quality and low quality shots.

[UcanUwill]

I have no clue what this global rating is, but its funny how Klemen Prepelič plays so well for Slovenia vile always sucking so bad in club play. His entire club career built on fact he looks great in international competitions with Doncic. SLovenian play played him into Real Madrid contract, literally.

Always plays with either the best PG in Europe or top two at worst (days when he was playing with Goran Dragic) on the Slovenian national team. In club play he usually plays alongside some combo guards in Valencia. He also looked like an awesome scorer with Badalona.

As for Madrid, imo playing for Real isn't for everybody. They usually ask their players to do a bunch of different things and guys have to be ready to impact the game regardless of the minutes they play. Prepelic plays better when he can kind of roam freely on offense and take a mix of high quality and low quality shots.

Real is next level, but he just loses his shot. If you just watch FIBA, you think hes is incredible sniper, one of the best for sure, but then club play starts and he starts bricking, becomes useless. Last season in ACB he was atrocious 23% from 3 I believe, and the only reason he gets paid is to shoot, what else does he really do.

[Nuntius]

I hope South Sudan tops that African Olympic spot race, they really have the speed and athleticism and shooting to at least be competitive in France.

I'd say that this looks quite likely. If South Sudan beats Angola then they're guaranteed to finish 1st in their group. The only other African team that has a chance to finish first in their group is Egypt and to do that they need to beat New Zealand.

The team that finishes 1st in their group gets slotted in the 17-20 classification bracket while the team that finishes 2nd gets slotted in the 21-24 classification bracket. So, if only one African team finishes 1st in their group then that team has secured their qualification to next year's Olympics.

[mcmurphy]

Greece, Serbia and Lithuania don't have a long tradition??


in 70s-80s
galis-giannakis,... in Greece
cosic-dalipagic-kikanovic,... in Serbia
zalgiris kaunas of sabonis-chomicius-kurtinaitis in Lithuania

And before that won Eurobasket in 1937 and 1939. 86 years and counting

Probably the formatting, but I believe that poster was giving the examples in brackets as teams that DO have a long tradition.

yep, my fault... rereading it it's clear enough... maybe I was just tired

[Mamba81p]

Primarily those who don't ha e a long tradition( Greece, serbia, Lithuania), but nations that grew exponentially in the last 3 decades like Germany and spain and others

Greece, Serbia and Lithuania don't have a long tradition??


in 70s-80s
galis-giannakis,... in Greece
cosic-dalipagic-kikanovic,... in Serbia
zalgiris kaunas of sabonis-chomicius-kurtinaitis in Lithuania

I mistyped. Meant who do have a long tradition

[Mamba81p]

Primarily those who don't ha e a long tradition( Greece, serbia, Lithuania), but nations that grew exponentially in the last 3 decades like Germany and spain and others

Greece, Serbia and Lithuania don't have a long tradition??


in 70s-80s
galis-giannakis,... in Greece
cosic-dalipagic-kikanovic,... in Serbia
zalgiris kaunas of sabonis-chomicius-kurtinaitis in Lithuania

I mistyped. Meant who do have a long tradition

[mcmurphy]

Italy has sucked so far... I hope they held the best performances for Serbia and Portorico.

[UcanUwill]

Italy has sucked so far... I hope they held the best performances for Serbia and Portorico.

Italy only has shooters it seems, but no one who could create shots for them, so they end up as one of the worse shooting teams. Watching some other nations, they just create so many open looks all the time, and Italy doesnt.

[aminiaturebuddha]

Italy has sucked so far... I hope they held the best performances for Serbia and Portorico.

Italy only has shooters it seems, but no one who could create shots for them, so they end up as one of the worse shooting teams. Watching some other nations, they just create so many open looks all the time, and Italy doesnt.

Any idea what's happened to Gabriel Procida? I really liked him as a prospect going into the NBA draft last year. I'll admit that I didn't watch him during the year, but it seems like his development has totally stagnated.

[UcanUwill]

OT, but rumors say Bahamas are targetting Mobley brothers, and Klay Thompsons wants all on the action too. Bahamas - olympic medalists?

[lambchop]

OT, but rumors say Bahamas are targetting Mobley brothers, and Klay Thompsons wants all on the action too. Bahamas - olympic medalists?

I think Mobleys and Naz Reid playing wouldn't cause they're already eligible to play. Klay would have to get FIBA permission like Gordon did.

[Mirotic12]

Rugby and handball are 2 sports I watch closely. They both bring a lot of crap teams into their world cups/championship. None of them have been able to grow the sport. In rugby it's the same countries: UK, Ireland, France, and the 3 traditional countries in the south. Argentina is the only one that is a new entry. They are trying to make a thing with Italy and Japan.
Handball is basically Europe only with Brazil/Argentina showing some potential + SK's women team.

Basketball on the the other hand is growing all around at a pretty impressive pace , regardless of whether they have a decent team. Having a home grown star or a competitive team definitely helps a lot, but those can come once the sport is becoming more popular.
The big difference between basketball and the rest is the NBA and it's stars.

We can ask our diverse group here what is driving the growth of the sport in their countries. Primarily those who don't ha e a long tradition( Greece, serbia, Lithuania), but nations that grew exponentially in the last 3 decades like Germany and spain and others

Spain's basketball tradition goes back way more than three decades. Even Germany's goes back further than that also. Germany had at least a decent national team back in the 80s.

Spanish national team got the silver at EuroBasket 1935. But their national team was important in Europe, I would say at least since the '70s. Their national team had some very good results in the '70s and '80s. It's been one of the best European national teams since the '70s.

In the 1960s, Spanish team Real Madrid was the best club team in Europe. I think they won EuroLeague like 4 times in the '60s. The Spanish League was one of the best national leagues in Europe since probably the 80s.

[Mirotic12]

I have no clue what this global rating is, but its funny how Klemen Prepelič plays so well for Slovenia vile always sucking so bad in club play. His entire club career built on fact he looks great in international competitions with Doncic. SLovenian play played him into Real Madrid contract, literally.

He was never good enough to make Real's main rotation. Playing in the rotation of a big EuroLeague club, is quite a higher standard of play and competition than any FIBA tournament.