Offseason Transactions Thread 3

[DaGawd]

seems like a steal for us
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10087504-realistic-trade-packages-for-every-nba-teams-worst-contract

Fournier, RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley, Isaiah Hartenstein, a 2024 first-round pick (top-12 protected, via WAS), a 2025 first-round pick (top-four protected, via MIL), a 2028 first-round pick and a 2030 first-round pick to the Philadelphia 76ers for Joel Embiid and P.J. Tucker

damn we get to keep mitch as a backup to embiid

[Knicksfan1992]

I know OKC might not be big, but playing with SGA and another star to form a big 3 is definitely a big sell imo.

You know what's not a big sell? Spending the other 21 hours a day you aren't playing basketball as a mega rich worldwide superstar living in Oklahoma City No offense to people that live near or around there, but it's just not that kind of destination.

I promise you Giannis is not going to leave Milwaukee just to end up in Oklahoma City. That's hustlin' backwards.

I also promise you Embiid is not leaving a Coastal major market just to end up in the effin' rust belt

Does Giannis strike you as having a big city preference? I don't necessarily get that vibe from him....but would love to have him.

No but that's because we only know him as a small market guy. I don't think he's exactly like Jokic though either where he comes here to hoop and doesn't want to be seen outside of that. He's in commercials that were filmed in NYC. He likes to play around with the media too. I'm sure Nike would love it if he went to a big market and they have a big interest in making sure Giannis is as popular as possible. NYC obviously has a big Greek population as well that would really embrace him.

My point being if Giannis leaves a small market like Milwaukee, I find it hard (impossible is probably the better term but i'll officially be more conservative ) to believe that everyone involved in making that decision is going to look at all the options (and there will be obviously as many as possible) and give the ok to going to Oklahoma City of all places.

When you boil it down, the only sell OKC has to a guy like Giannis is that they have a young core and a potential top 10 player in the league. Do the Knicks not have the exact same thing though? Yeah maybe our younger guys don't have the same ceiling that a Holmgren, Giddey or Williams have but we do know that...

A) The Knicks were good enough to win a playoff series which OKC hasn't come close to doing.

B) A lot of those guys would not be there if they trade for Giannis anyway whether they get traded in a Giannis deal or get moved for win now pieces.

Everything else OKC brings to the table really only caters to Milwaukee specifically and what kind of package they can get for Giannis. Giannis doesn't have to think with that in mind. If he knows he can go to an LA, Chicago, NY, Miami and still compete then what does it matter if OKC can also compete? Why? Just because they have Shai? OK..

The Knicks have Brunson and Randle who has made 2 all-NBA teams. You're telling me a guy who thinks he's the best player in the world can't win with Brunson as his running mate? Not to mention, the Knicks would also be in win-now mode immediately if they get Giannis. Other moves would be made.

Miami has Bam and Jimmy who Giannis just watched torch his team. LA has AD and Bron, etc.

He could compete with those guys too and get all the benefits that come with being in those cities and being possibly the best player in the world. People look at rosters now and think that's how it's going to stay if somebody goes there... Look at Phoenix when they got KD. Everything shifted.

[thebuzzardman]

You know what's not a big sell? Spending the other 21 hours a day you aren't playing basketball as a mega rich worldwide superstar living in Oklahoma City No offense to people that live near or around there, but it's just not that kind of destination.

I promise you Giannis is not going to leave Milwaukee just to end up in Oklahoma City. That's hustlin' backwards.

I also promise you Embiid is not leaving a Coastal major market just to end up in the effin' rust belt

Does Giannis strike you as having a big city preference? I don't necessarily get that vibe from him....but would love to have him.

No but that's because we only know him as a small market guy. I don't think he's exactly like Jokic though either where he comes here to hoop and doesn't want to be seen outside of that. He's in commercials that were filmed in NYC. He likes to play around with the media too. I'm sure Nike would love it if he went to a big market and they have a big interest in making sure Giannis is as popular as possible. NYC obviously has a big Greek population as well that would really embrace him.

My point being if Giannis leaves a small market like Milwaukee, I find it hard (impossible is probably the better term but i'll officially be more conservative ) to believe that everyone involved in making that decision is going to look at all the options (and there will be obviously as many as possible) and give the ok to going to Oklahoma City of all places.

When you boil it down, the only sell OKC has to a guy like Giannis is that they have a young core and a potential top 10 player in the league. Do the Knicks not have the exact same thing though? Yeah maybe our younger guys don't have the same ceiling that a Holmgren, Giddey or Williams have but we do know that...

A) The Knicks were good enough to win a playoff series which OKC hasn't come close to doing.

B) A lot of those guys would not be there if they trade for Giannis anyway whether they get traded in a Giannis deal or get moved for win now pieces.

Everything else OKC brings to the table really only caters to Milwaukee specifically and what kind of package they can get for Giannis. Giannis doesn't have to think with that in mind. If he knows he can go to an LA, Chicago, NY, Miami and still compete then what does it matter if OKC can also compete? Why? Just because they have Shai? OK..

The Knicks have Brunson and Randle who has made 2 all-NBA teams. You're telling me a guy who thinks he's the best player in the world can't win with Brunson as his running mate? Not to mention, the Knicks would also be in win-now mode immediately if they get Giannis. Other moves would be made.

Miami has Bam and Jimmy who Giannis just watched torch his team. LA has AD and Bron, etc.

He could compete with those guys too and get all the benefits that come with being in those cities and being possibly the best player in the world. People look at rosters now and think that's how it's going to stay if somebody goes there... Look at Phoenix when they got KD. Everything shifted.

I love how everyone casually assumes OKC will keep Shai, Giddy, Chet, Poku, Williams as if the salary cap doesn't exist. For the next few years? Absolutely. Then they all will need to get paid. At some point they'll make a trade.

I mean, it could be for Giannis. But I don't see it either.

It's just what people do who like tanking teams. They were doing it with the Pacers too last year. "OMG, so much young talent, this is the way, and they have cap room!!!!"

And then they had to pay Haliburton and Turner - which any team would, and now there is not so much cap room.
And they won't be keeping all those young players.
Eventually, even tanking team turn into teams of middling vets with cap issues.

[Knicksfan1992]

Does Giannis strike you as having a big city preference? I don't necessarily get that vibe from him....but would love to have him.

No but that's because we only know him as a small market guy. I don't think he's exactly like Jokic though either where he comes here to hoop and doesn't want to be seen outside of that. He's in commercials that were filmed in NYC. He likes to play around with the media too. I'm sure Nike would love it if he went to a big market and they have a big interest in making sure Giannis is as popular as possible. NYC obviously has a big Greek population as well that would really embrace him.

My point being if Giannis leaves a small market like Milwaukee, I find it hard (impossible is probably the better term but i'll officially be more conservative ) to believe that everyone involved in making that decision is going to look at all the options (and there will be obviously as many as possible) and give the ok to going to Oklahoma City of all places.

When you boil it down, the only sell OKC has to a guy like Giannis is that they have a young core and a potential top 10 player in the league. Do the Knicks not have the exact same thing though? Yeah maybe our younger guys don't have the same ceiling that a Holmgren, Giddey or Williams have but we do know that...

A) The Knicks were good enough to win a playoff series which OKC hasn't come close to doing.

B) A lot of those guys would not be there if they trade for Giannis anyway whether they get traded in a Giannis deal or get moved for win now pieces.

Everything else OKC brings to the table really only caters to Milwaukee specifically and what kind of package they can get for Giannis. Giannis doesn't have to think with that in mind. If he knows he can go to an LA, Chicago, NY, Miami and still compete then what does it matter if OKC can also compete? Why? Just because they have Shai? OK..

The Knicks have Brunson and Randle who has made 2 all-NBA teams. You're telling me a guy who thinks he's the best player in the world can't win with Brunson as his running mate? Not to mention, the Knicks would also be in win-now mode immediately if they get Giannis. Other moves would be made.

Miami has Bam and Jimmy who Giannis just watched torch his team. LA has AD and Bron, etc.

He could compete with those guys too and get all the benefits that come with being in those cities and being possibly the best player in the world. People look at rosters now and think that's how it's going to stay if somebody goes there... Look at Phoenix when they got KD. Everything shifted.

I love how everyone casually assumes OKC will keep Shai, Giddy, Chet, Poku, Williams as if the salary cap doesn't exist. For the next few years? Absolutely. Then they all will need to get paid. At some point they'll make a trade.

I mean, it could be for Giannis. But I don't see it either.

It's just what people do who like tanking teams. They were doing it with the Pacers too last year. "OMG, so much young talent, this is the way, and they have cap room!!!!"

And then they had to pay Haliburton and Turner - which any team would, and now there is not so much cap room.
And they won't be keeping all those young players.
Eventually, even tanking team turn into teams of middling vets with cap issues.

OKC debatably had the greatest young core already ever made with Russ, Harden and KD. They even knew at the time that team was good enough to make the Finals because they did it. All three of them turned into top 75 players. And they still threw it away to avoid the luxury tax...

Again history is on my side with this lol

[3toheadmelo]

Does Giannis strike you as having a big city preference? I don't necessarily get that vibe from him....but would love to have him.

No but that's because we only know him as a small market guy. I don't think he's exactly like Jokic though either where he comes here to hoop and doesn't want to be seen outside of that. He's in commercials that were filmed in NYC. He likes to play around with the media too. I'm sure Nike would love it if he went to a big market and they have a big interest in making sure Giannis is as popular as possible. NYC obviously has a big Greek population as well that would really embrace him.

My point being if Giannis leaves a small market like Milwaukee, I find it hard (impossible is probably the better term but i'll officially be more conservative ) to believe that everyone involved in making that decision is going to look at all the options (and there will be obviously as many as possible) and give the ok to going to Oklahoma City of all places.

When you boil it down, the only sell OKC has to a guy like Giannis is that they have a young core and a potential top 10 player in the league. Do the Knicks not have the exact same thing though? Yeah maybe our younger guys don't have the same ceiling that a Holmgren, Giddey or Williams have but we do know that...

A) The Knicks were good enough to win a playoff series which OKC hasn't come close to doing.

B) A lot of those guys would not be there if they trade for Giannis anyway whether they get traded in a Giannis deal or get moved for win now pieces.

Everything else OKC brings to the table really only caters to Milwaukee specifically and what kind of package they can get for Giannis. Giannis doesn't have to think with that in mind. If he knows he can go to an LA, Chicago, NY, Miami and still compete then what does it matter if OKC can also compete? Why? Just because they have Shai? OK..

The Knicks have Brunson and Randle who has made 2 all-NBA teams. You're telling me a guy who thinks he's the best player in the world can't win with Brunson as his running mate? Not to mention, the Knicks would also be in win-now mode immediately if they get Giannis. Other moves would be made.

Miami has Bam and Jimmy who Giannis just watched torch his team. LA has AD and Bron, etc.

He could compete with those guys too and get all the benefits that come with being in those cities and being possibly the best player in the world. People look at rosters now and think that's how it's going to stay if somebody goes there... Look at Phoenix when they got KD. Everything shifted.

I love how everyone casually assumes OKC will keep Shai, Giddy, Chet, Poku, Williams as if the salary cap doesn't exist. For the next few years? Absolutely. Then they all will need to get paid. At some point they'll make a trade.

I mean, it could be for Giannis. But I don't see it either.

It's just what people do who like tanking teams. They were doing it with the Pacers too last year. "OMG, so much young talent, this is the way, and they have cap room!!!!"

And then they had to pay Haliburton and Turner - which any team would, and now there is not so much cap room.
And they won't be keeping all those young players.
Eventually, even tanking team turn into teams of middling vets with cap issues.

sorry buzz. just had to point that out

[Besart19]

i think everyone here would get rid of rj and randle if it meant having a trio of embiid, giannis and brunson lol

Brunson
Grimes
3&D with over 43% from the 3pt line
Giannis
Embiid

Kawhi?

he can stay healthy and you need an Iggy type of player in that scenario

[thebuzzardman]

No but that's because we only know him as a small market guy. I don't think he's exactly like Jokic though either where he comes here to hoop and doesn't want to be seen outside of that. He's in commercials that were filmed in NYC. He likes to play around with the media too. I'm sure Nike would love it if he went to a big market and they have a big interest in making sure Giannis is as popular as possible. NYC obviously has a big Greek population as well that would really embrace him.

My point being if Giannis leaves a small market like Milwaukee, I find it hard (impossible is probably the better term but i'll officially be more conservative ) to believe that everyone involved in making that decision is going to look at all the options (and there will be obviously as many as possible) and give the ok to going to Oklahoma City of all places.

When you boil it down, the only sell OKC has to a guy like Giannis is that they have a young core and a potential top 10 player in the league. Do the Knicks not have the exact same thing though? Yeah maybe our younger guys don't have the same ceiling that a Holmgren, Giddey or Williams have but we do know that...

A) The Knicks were good enough to win a playoff series which OKC hasn't come close to doing.

B) A lot of those guys would not be there if they trade for Giannis anyway whether they get traded in a Giannis deal or get moved for win now pieces.

Everything else OKC brings to the table really only caters to Milwaukee specifically and what kind of package they can get for Giannis. Giannis doesn't have to think with that in mind. If he knows he can go to an LA, Chicago, NY, Miami and still compete then what does it matter if OKC can also compete? Why? Just because they have Shai? OK..

The Knicks have Brunson and Randle who has made 2 all-NBA teams. You're telling me a guy who thinks he's the best player in the world can't win with Brunson as his running mate? Not to mention, the Knicks would also be in win-now mode immediately if they get Giannis. Other moves would be made.

Miami has Bam and Jimmy who Giannis just watched torch his team. LA has AD and Bron, etc.

He could compete with those guys too and get all the benefits that come with being in those cities and being possibly the best player in the world. People look at rosters now and think that's how it's going to stay if somebody goes there... Look at Phoenix when they got KD. Everything shifted.

I love how everyone casually assumes OKC will keep Shai, Giddy, Chet, Poku, Williams as if the salary cap doesn't exist. For the next few years? Absolutely. Then they all will need to get paid. At some point they'll make a trade.

I mean, it could be for Giannis. But I don't see it either.

It's just what people do who like tanking teams. They were doing it with the Pacers too last year. "OMG, so much young talent, this is the way, and they have cap room!!!!"

And then they had to pay Haliburton and Turner - which any team would, and now there is not so much cap room.
And they won't be keeping all those young players.
Eventually, even tanking team turn into teams of middling vets with cap issues.

sorry buzz. just had to point that out

Good catch. I can't help myself. I have a weakness for players with sunken chests. Like that Nets guy a few years back that had a name like a staph infection. Mersa? Mursa? Msra?

[3toheadmelo]

I love how everyone casually assumes OKC will keep Shai, Giddy, Chet, Poku, Williams as if the salary cap doesn't exist. For the next few years? Absolutely. Then they all will need to get paid. At some point they'll make a trade.

I mean, it could be for Giannis. But I don't see it either.

It's just what people do who like tanking teams. They were doing it with the Pacers too last year. "OMG, so much young talent, this is the way, and they have cap room!!!!"

And then they had to pay Haliburton and Turner - which any team would, and now there is not so much cap room.
And they won't be keeping all those young players.
Eventually, even tanking team turn into teams of middling vets with cap issues.

sorry buzz. just had to point that out

Good catch. I can't help myself. I have a weakness for players with sunken chests. Like that Nets guy a few years back that had a name like a staph infection. Mersa? Mursa? Msra?

Dzanan Musa

[Oscirus]

seems like a steal for us
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10087504-realistic-trade-packages-for-every-nba-teams-worst-contract

Fournier, RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley, Isaiah Hartenstein, a 2024 first-round pick (top-12 protected, via WAS), a 2025 first-round pick (top-four protected, via MIL), a 2028 first-round pick and a 2030 first-round pick to the Philadelphia 76ers for Joel Embiid and P.J. Tucker

LOL at thinking we can use protected picks to trade for embid.

[Reign23]

seems like a steal for us
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10087504-realistic-trade-packages-for-every-nba-teams-worst-contract

Fournier, RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley, Isaiah Hartenstein, a 2024 first-round pick (top-12 protected, via WAS), a 2025 first-round pick (top-four protected, via MIL), a 2028 first-round pick and a 2030 first-round pick to the Philadelphia 76ers for Joel Embiid and P.J. Tucker

damn we get to keep mitch as a backup to embiid

the daily instagram posts from him would be entertaining when he plays 10 minutes per game.

[RHODEY]

You know what's not a big sell? Spending the other 21 hours a day you aren't playing basketball as a mega rich worldwide superstar living in Oklahoma City No offense to people that live near or around there, but it's just not that kind of destination.

I promise you Giannis is not going to leave Milwaukee just to end up in Oklahoma City. That's hustlin' backwards.

I also promise you Embiid is not leaving a Coastal major market just to end up in the effin' rust belt

Does Giannis strike you as having a big city preference? I don't necessarily get that vibe from him....but would love to have him.

No but that's because we only know him as a small market guy. I don't think he's exactly like Jokic though either where he comes here to hoop and doesn't want to be seen outside of that. He's in commercials that were filmed in NYC. He likes to play around with the media too. I'm sure Nike would love it if he went to a big market and they have a big interest in making sure Giannis is as popular as possible. NYC obviously has a big Greek population as well that would really embrace him.

My point being if Giannis leaves a small market like Milwaukee, I find it hard (impossible is probably the better term but i'll officially be more conservative ) to believe that everyone involved in making that decision is going to look at all the options (and there will be obviously as many as possible) and give the ok to going to Oklahoma City of all places.

When you boil it down, the only sell OKC has to a guy like Giannis is that they have a young core and a potential top 10 player in the league. Do the Knicks not have the exact same thing though? Yeah maybe our younger guys don't have the same ceiling that a Holmgren, Giddey or Williams have but we do know that...

A) The Knicks were good enough to win a playoff series which OKC hasn't come close to doing.

B) A lot of those guys would not be there if they trade for Giannis anyway whether they get traded in a Giannis deal or get moved for win now pieces.

Everything else OKC brings to the table really only caters to Milwaukee specifically and what kind of package they can get for Giannis. Giannis doesn't have to think with that in mind. If he knows he can go to an LA, Chicago, NY, Miami and still compete then what does it matter if OKC can also compete? Why? Just because they have Shai? OK..

The Knicks have Brunson and Randle who has made 2 all-NBA teams. You're telling me a guy who thinks he's the best player in the world can't win with Brunson as his running mate? Not to mention, the Knicks would also be in win-now mode immediately if they get Giannis. Other moves would be made.

Miami has Bam and Jimmy who Giannis just watched torch his team. LA has AD and Bron, etc.

He could compete with those guys too and get all the benefits that come with being in those cities and being possibly the best player in the world. People look at rosters now and think that's how it's going to stay if somebody goes there... Look at Phoenix when they got KD. Everything shifted.

You know what brotha....its gonna happen...

Watch on YouTube

We are going to sign him and another star in 2025 then go over the cap with Brunson and Randle!!!!

[HarthorneWingo]

Does Giannis strike you as having a big city preference? I don't necessarily get that vibe from him....but would love to have him.

No but that's because we only know him as a small market guy. I don't think he's exactly like Jokic though either where he comes here to hoop and doesn't want to be seen outside of that. He's in commercials that were filmed in NYC. He likes to play around with the media too. I'm sure Nike would love it if he went to a big market and they have a big interest in making sure Giannis is as popular as possible. NYC obviously has a big Greek population as well that would really embrace him.

My point being if Giannis leaves a small market like Milwaukee, I find it hard (impossible is probably the better term but i'll officially be more conservative ) to believe that everyone involved in making that decision is going to look at all the options (and there will be obviously as many as possible) and give the ok to going to Oklahoma City of all places.

When you boil it down, the only sell OKC has to a guy like Giannis is that they have a young core and a potential top 10 player in the league. Do the Knicks not have the exact same thing though? Yeah maybe our younger guys don't have the same ceiling that a Holmgren, Giddey or Williams have but we do know that...

A) The Knicks were good enough to win a playoff series which OKC hasn't come close to doing.

B) A lot of those guys would not be there if they trade for Giannis anyway whether they get traded in a Giannis deal or get moved for win now pieces.

Everything else OKC brings to the table really only caters to Milwaukee specifically and what kind of package they can get for Giannis. Giannis doesn't have to think with that in mind. If he knows he can go to an LA, Chicago, NY, Miami and still compete then what does it matter if OKC can also compete? Why? Just because they have Shai? OK..

The Knicks have Brunson and Randle who has made 2 all-NBA teams. You're telling me a guy who thinks he's the best player in the world can't win with Brunson as his running mate? Not to mention, the Knicks would also be in win-now mode immediately if they get Giannis. Other moves would be made.

Miami has Bam and Jimmy who Giannis just watched torch his team. LA has AD and Bron, etc.

He could compete with those guys too and get all the benefits that come with being in those cities and being possibly the best player in the world. People look at rosters now and think that's how it's going to stay if somebody goes there... Look at Phoenix when they got KD. Everything shifted.

You know what brotha....its gonna happen...

Watch on YouTube

We are going to sign him and another star in 2025 then go over the cap with Brunson and Randle!!!!

If Chat Sports says it's happening, then it most definitely is NOT happening. That guy hypes every rumor.

[spree2kawhi]

Without it being necessarily realistic, let’s try to come up with a short list of 10 ideal targets to build a team around Brunson (with everybody else expendable).

My list:

1: Giannis
2: Embiid
3: Shai
4: Bridges
5: Doncic
6: PG
7: Ingram
8: OG
9: Haliburton
10: Sengun

[thebuzzardman]

Without it being necessarily realistic, let’s try to come up with a short list of 10 ideal targets to build a team around Brunson (with everybody else expendable).

My list:

1: Giannis
2: Embiid
3: Shai
4: Bridges
5: Doncic
6: PG
7: Ingram
8: OG
9: Haliburton
10: Sengun

I'd put Edwards on that list. He has the height, range, style, ability, athleticism, that is a cut above RJ. Not knocking RJ, just that Edwards fits the height + ability upgrade the Knicks need at wing. Good list though.

[RHODEY]

No but that's because we only know him as a small market guy. I don't think he's exactly like Jokic though either where he comes here to hoop and doesn't want to be seen outside of that. He's in commercials that were filmed in NYC. He likes to play around with the media too. I'm sure Nike would love it if he went to a big market and they have a big interest in making sure Giannis is as popular as possible. NYC obviously has a big Greek population as well that would really embrace him.

My point being if Giannis leaves a small market like Milwaukee, I find it hard (impossible is probably the better term but i'll officially be more conservative ) to believe that everyone involved in making that decision is going to look at all the options (and there will be obviously as many as possible) and give the ok to going to Oklahoma City of all places.

When you boil it down, the only sell OKC has to a guy like Giannis is that they have a young core and a potential top 10 player in the league. Do the Knicks not have the exact same thing though? Yeah maybe our younger guys don't have the same ceiling that a Holmgren, Giddey or Williams have but we do know that...

A) The Knicks were good enough to win a playoff series which OKC hasn't come close to doing.

B) A lot of those guys would not be there if they trade for Giannis anyway whether they get traded in a Giannis deal or get moved for win now pieces.

Everything else OKC brings to the table really only caters to Milwaukee specifically and what kind of package they can get for Giannis. Giannis doesn't have to think with that in mind. If he knows he can go to an LA, Chicago, NY, Miami and still compete then what does it matter if OKC can also compete? Why? Just because they have Shai? OK..

The Knicks have Brunson and Randle who has made 2 all-NBA teams. You're telling me a guy who thinks he's the best player in the world can't win with Brunson as his running mate? Not to mention, the Knicks would also be in win-now mode immediately if they get Giannis. Other moves would be made.

Miami has Bam and Jimmy who Giannis just watched torch his team. LA has AD and Bron, etc.

He could compete with those guys too and get all the benefits that come with being in those cities and being possibly the best player in the world. People look at rosters now and think that's how it's going to stay if somebody goes there... Look at Phoenix when they got KD. Everything shifted.

You know what brotha....its gonna happen...

Watch on YouTube

We are going to sign him and another star in 2025 then go over the cap with Brunson and Randle!!!!

If Chat Sports says it's happening, then it most definitely is NOT happening. That guy hypes every rumor.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.....I can actually see it happening.

[spree2kawhi]

Without it being necessarily realistic, let’s try to come up with a short list of 10 ideal targets to build a team around Brunson (with everybody else expendable).

My list:

1: Giannis
2: Embiid
3: Shai
4: Bridges
5: Doncic
6: PG
7: Ingram
8: OG
9: Haliburton
10: Sengun

I'd put Edwards on that list. He has the height, range, style, ability, athleticism, that is a cut above RJ. Not knocking RJ, just that Edwards fits the height + ability upgrade the Knicks need at wing. Good list though.

Edwards definitely. I omitted him because he’s totally untouchable and currently doesn’t seem like he’ll ask out. I looked at their roster and thought, “KAT? Hell no”, so I proceeded. Other candidates that are clearly untouchable do exist, but I thought it would be pointless to include them (think Wembanyama, Tatum, Durant or Banchero - they won’t be available anytime soon). Then again, the same can be said about Haliburton. The other 9 could end up on the market somehow.

[3toheadmelo]

Without it being necessarily realistic, let’s try to come up with a short list of 10 ideal targets to build a team around Brunson (with everybody else expendable).

My list:

1: Giannis
2: Embiid
3: Shai
4: Bridges
5: Doncic
6: PG
7: Ingram
8: OG
9: Haliburton
10: Sengun

I'd put Edwards on that list. He has the height, range, style, ability, athleticism, that is a cut above RJ. Not knocking RJ, just that Edwards fits the height + ability upgrade the Knicks need at wing. Good list though.

Edwards definitely. I omitted him because he’s totally untouchable and currently doesn’t seem like he’ll ask out. I looked at their roster and thought, “KAT? Hell no”, so I proceeded. Other candidates that are clearly untouchable do exist, but I thought it would be pointless to include them (think Wembanyama, Tatum, Durant or Banchero - they won’t be available anytime soon). Then again, the same can be said about Haliburton. The other 9 could end up on the market somehow.

why would houston trade sengun?

[Fat]

Without it being necessarily realistic, let’s try to come up with a short list of 10 ideal targets to build a team around Brunson (with everybody else expendable).

My list:

1: Giannis
2: Embiid
3: Shai
4: Bridges
5: Doncic
6: PG
7: Ingram
8: OG
9: Haliburton
10: Sengun

Embiid/Brunson please

[Knicksfan1992]

Sengun would be a terrible fit... A truly disgusting suggestion . All teams would have to do is spam pick and rolls like 2K involving Sengun and Brunson in the playoffs and it would be a field day. Any team with a good guard would feast. And Sengun isn't good enough yet offensively to justify that.

Building around Brunson isn't difficult though, but the one thing you ABSOLUTELY need to avoid is getting a no defense big. Ideally you get some size on the wings, but as long as the wings are good defensively you should be fine regardless.

Brunson isn't a great pick and roll guard mainly because of his height. It's hard for him to see over the defense to make reads and he's not a great lob thrower either because of his lower center of gravity. So I don't think getting a big who is great in the P&R is all that necessary... Brunson wins on offense by being a knockdown catch and shoot guy, awesome mid range footwork and a tight handle that allows him to get downhill quickly and create separation using his outlier strength at his size. Last year he flashed more pull up 3's too which I expect to get better. He's a true 3 level scorer.

I think getting another bigger shot creator and playmaker would do wonders. Randle does a good job of replicating that in the regular season but it's yet to manifest itself in the playoffs. Also he tends to operate in the same spaces as Brunson does which can kind of cause a your turn, my turn feel to their partnership. Honestly, watching FIBA, Ant really stands out as the perfect mold next to Brunson. He's bigger, can get downhill on his own and also create jumpers off the dribble. And he's not a slouch defensively given his athletic traits.

Obviously any of the top 5-10 players in the league would be great too lol.

[Knick4Real]

Does Giannis strike you as having a big city preference? I don't necessarily get that vibe from him....but would love to have him.

No but that's because we only know him as a small market guy. I don't think he's exactly like Jokic though either where he comes here to hoop and doesn't want to be seen outside of that. He's in commercials that were filmed in NYC. He likes to play around with the media too. I'm sure Nike would love it if he went to a big market and they have a big interest in making sure Giannis is as popular as possible. NYC obviously has a big Greek population as well that would really embrace him.

My point being if Giannis leaves a small market like Milwaukee, I find it hard (impossible is probably the better term but i'll officially be more conservative ) to believe that everyone involved in making that decision is going to look at all the options (and there will be obviously as many as possible) and give the ok to going to Oklahoma City of all places.

When you boil it down, the only sell OKC has to a guy like Giannis is that they have a young core and a potential top 10 player in the league. Do the Knicks not have the exact same thing though? Yeah maybe our younger guys don't have the same ceiling that a Holmgren, Giddey or Williams have but we do know that...

A) The Knicks were good enough to win a playoff series which OKC hasn't come close to doing.

B) A lot of those guys would not be there if they trade for Giannis anyway whether they get traded in a Giannis deal or get moved for win now pieces.

Everything else OKC brings to the table really only caters to Milwaukee specifically and what kind of package they can get for Giannis. Giannis doesn't have to think with that in mind. If he knows he can go to an LA, Chicago, NY, Miami and still compete then what does it matter if OKC can also compete? Why? Just because they have Shai? OK..

The Knicks have Brunson and Randle who has made 2 all-NBA teams. You're telling me a guy who thinks he's the best player in the world can't win with Brunson as his running mate? Not to mention, the Knicks would also be in win-now mode immediately if they get Giannis. Other moves would be made.

Miami has Bam and Jimmy who Giannis just watched torch his team. LA has AD and Bron, etc.

He could compete with those guys too and get all the benefits that come with being in those cities and being possibly the best player in the world. People look at rosters now and think that's how it's going to stay if somebody goes there... Look at Phoenix when they got KD. Everything shifted.

You know what brotha....its gonna happen...

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We are going to sign him and another star in 2025 then go over the cap with Brunson and Randle!!!!

HAHAHA!

I'd LOVE to have Giannis here, but this guy is reeealllly stretching.

He took Marc Stein saying: "The Lakers and Knicks are already being mentioned as franchises presumed to interest Antetokounmpo down the road if he does decide to move on from Milwaukee,"

and Stephen A saying: "I don't rule out the possibility of Giannis wanting to come to New York at all,"

and turned that into Giannis is interested in NY and is coming here.

Just because some unnamed person(s) mentioned it (maybe RealGM posters) and Stephen A said he wouldn't "rule it out" means absolutely nothing. This is blatant KNICKS for clicks.