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PaulieWal wrote:Honestly some of this Jokic reverence is starting to remind me of the 2016 season with Curry around these board. Lots of people around that time were saying:
"Curry and Kerr perfected basketball"
"Peak Curry > Peak MJ/LeBron"
"Curry never has a bad game because gravity"
f4p wrote:PaulieWal wrote:Honestly some of this Jokic reverence is starting to remind me of the 2016 season with Curry around these board. Lots of people around that time were saying:
"Curry and Kerr perfected basketball"
"Peak Curry > Peak MJ/LeBron"
"Curry never has a bad game because gravity"
They're still saying that one.
SNPA wrote:f4p wrote:PaulieWal wrote:Honestly some of this Jokic reverence is starting to remind me of the 2016 season with Curry around these board. Lots of people around that time were saying:
"Curry and Kerr perfected basketball"
"Peak Curry > Peak MJ/LeBron"
"Curry never has a bad game because gravity"
They're still saying that one.
Do they say that about Bird in the playoffs? If not, hypocrites you can ignore.
LukaTheGOAT wrote:OhayoKD wrote:LukaTheGOAT wrote:
When has Curry ever had to floor-raise other than 2021? What are you referring to, for him being a different tier of floor-raiser from Kobe?
Well
1. 2021 Curry looks more impactful(at least per game) then 06 kobe
and
2. 2021 Curry is not the same league-relative outlier 2015-2017 curry was
3. There is no objective treshold where "floor-raising" is now "cieling-raising". Steph looks like a more valuable regular-season player than kobe by pretty much anything. The burden is yours to demonstrate that advantage goes away at a certain treshold of team.
Bro can you not turn everything into a "gotcha," moment? I wasn't saying anything about Steph not being a better floor-raiser, I was asking for what data points were guiding his opinion.