2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation 3 - Post Free Agency Discussion

SunsRback4Good · Post #681 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Mon Sep 4, 2023 4:43 am

bwoolf2 wrote:This board sucks now what happened? season can't start soon enough.

Everyone migrated back to ESPN board.

sunsbum · Post #682 » by **sunsbum** » Mon Sep 4, 2023 4:51 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:
bwoolf2 wrote:This board sucks now what happened? season can't start soon enough.

Everyone migrated back to ESPN board.

This happens every summer, everything's fine.

Calvin Klein · Post #683 » by **Calvin Klein** » Mon Sep 4, 2023 11:06 am

I started listening to the phnx podcast a few months ago. It was nothing special but could be fun. Now they added this flex clown. That’s it for me. A pity.

King4Day · Post #684 » by **King4Day** » Mon Sep 4, 2023 12:03 pm

Calvin Klein wrote:I started listening to the phnx podcast a few months ago. It was nothing special but could be fun. Now they added this flex clown. That’s it for me. A pity.

PHNX isn't just a Suns podcast. They have other teams and other side shows. From the looks of it, it doesn't appear Flex is part of the 4some. He's gonna do his own thing under their brand.

King4Day · Post #685 » by **King4Day** » Mon Sep 4, 2023 12:04 pm

sunsbum wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
bwoolf2 wrote:This board sucks now what happened? season can't start soon enough.

Everyone migrated back to ESPN board.
This happens every summer, everything's fine.

Exactly
This is the dead time of year. I rarely come here anymore but will once camp starts and news picks up.

SunsRback4Good · Post #686 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Mon Sep 4, 2023 7:34 pm

King4Day wrote:
sunsbum wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
Everyone migrated back to ESPN board.
This happens every summer, everything's fine.

Exactly
This is the dead time of year. I rarely come here anymore but will once camp starts and news picks up.

It’s like a domino effect once few posters stop posting others do the same. Can’t wait for at least preseason to start in exactly a month. At least football starts this week cause I’m getting bored watching baseball especially since D-Backs are struggling right now.

sunsbg · Post #687 » by **sunsbg** » Mon Sep 4, 2023 7:57 pm

No Ayton tweets recently, so what are people supposed to talk about, World Cup ? Boring.

thamadkant · Post #688 » by **thamadkant** » Tue Sep 5, 2023 12:20 am

sunsbum wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
sunsbum wrote: I'm like a kid smacking a beehive at this point, its fun to watch yall get angry over any criticism of DA. Don't worry, when and if (thats a huge IF) the bee comes around and plants a stinger in my nose I'll be the first one to admit I was wrong. I'm pretty confident I have nothing to worry about though. Y'all on the other hand even after Ayton is long gone will continue to make excuses for the guy. It will bee fun to watch.

Nobody cares if you'll admit you were wrong. People are not angry(more like annoyed) because of 'any' criticism of DA, it's ALL hate from people like you. It's new situation for Ayton, a lot of things to motivate him for next season - new coach, real chance for a title, even a new contract coming soon. Yet your post shows you have already written him off. There is a chance he underperforms in which case I agree he'll be moved. Makes too much sense from financial and roster building perspectives.
angry/annoyed - stop splitting hairs. You realize that DA and his super fans are the ones that drive all this right? Deandre and frens are writing the books, I’m just over here reading ‘em.

Lol

You're a nobody like most of us here who spends a lot of effort to crap down on a player disregarding the whole picture.

The problem is, you think you're right when it's very subjective and your takes are so biased.

Bogyo · Post #689 » by **Bogyo** » Tue Sep 5, 2023 5:41 am

Calvin Klein wrote:I started listening to the phnx podcast a few months ago. It was nothing special but could be fun. Now they added this flex clown. That’s it for me. A pity.

Well, he faked it until he made it. Good on him...

I still hate his smug personality, bad takes, worse english and everything else about his "reporting". But this was his goal from day one when he started coming up with stuff as "news" what he read here or another publicly available "sauce" as a logical speculation. Some of it came true - as some of the logical speculation does.

sunsbum · Post #690 » by **sunsbum** » Tue Sep 5, 2023 5:51 am

thamadkant wrote:
sunsbum wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
Nobody cares if you'll admit you were wrong. People are not angry(more like annoyed) because of 'any' criticism of DA, it's ALL hate from people like you. It's new situation for Ayton, a lot of things to motivate him for next season - new coach, real chance for a title, even a new contract coming soon. Yet your post shows you have already written him off. There is a chance he underperforms in which case I agree he'll be moved. Makes too much sense from financial and roster building perspectives.
angry/annoyed - stop splitting hairs. You realize that DA and his super fans are the ones that drive all this right? Deandre and frens are writing the books, I’m just over here reading ‘em.

Lol

You're a nobody like most of us here who spends a lot of effort to crap down on a player disregarding the whole picture.

The problem is, you think you're right when it's very subjective and your takes are so biased.

What picture have I disregarded? Please clear it up for me.

sunsbg · Post #691 » by **sunsbg** » Tue Sep 5, 2023 1:51 pm

Mikal with a big game against the poor Italians.

Fo-Real · Post #692 » by **Fo-Real** » Tue Sep 5, 2023 1:54 pm

SunsRback4Good wrote:
King4Day wrote:
sunsbum wrote: This happens every summer, everything's fine.

Exactly
This is the dead time of year. I rarely come here anymore but will once camp starts and news picks up.

It’s like a domino effect once few posters stop posting others do the same. Can’t wait for at least preseason to start in exactly a month. At least football starts this week cause I’m getting bored watching baseball especially since D-Backs are struggling right now.

The only subject is a constant back and forth on Ayton, no need to even get in on that.

matt131 · Post #693 » by **matt131** » Tue Sep 5, 2023 4:58 pm

Film Study: No point guard, no problem in Phoenix?

https://www.nba.com/news/film-study-no-point-guard-phoenix-suns

King4Day · Post #694 » by **King4Day** » Tue Sep 5, 2023 8:24 pm

Right now, I don't want to see any tweets from Woj, Shams, or anyone, relating to the Suns.
At this stage of the summer, anything from them will mean injury. Trey Murphy being the latest.
The NBA season is so fragile.

Calvin Klein · Post #695 » by **Calvin Klein** » Tue Sep 5, 2023 11:51 pm

Bogyo wrote:
Calvin Klein wrote:I started listening to the phnx podcast a few months ago. It was nothing special but could be fun. Now they added this flex clown. That’s it for me. A pity.

Well, he faked it until he made it. Good on him...

I still hate his smug personality, bad takes, worse english and everything else about his "reporting". But this was his goal from day one when he started coming up with stuff as "news" what he read here or another publicly available "sauce" as a logical speculation. Some of it came true - as some of the logical speculation does.

I don’t understand what’s enjoyable about listening or watching him.

garrick · Post #696 » by **garrick** » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:47 am

matt131 wrote:Film Study: No point guard, no problem in Phoenix?

https://www.nba.com/news/film-study-no-point-guard-phoenix-suns

I think they can make it work most of the time but what made us really good was CP3 was for a time super clutch late in games until he fell off a cliff due to age. We always get stars once they're already on the decline and never when they're in their prime.

matt131 · Post #697 » by **matt131** » Wed Sep 6, 2023 4:06 am

Read on Twitter

?s=46

Post #698 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Sep 6, 2023 4:25 am

garrick wrote:
matt131 wrote:Film Study: No point guard, no problem in Phoenix?

https://www.nba.com/news/film-study-no-point-guard-phoenix-suns

I think they can make it work most of the time but what made us really good was CP3 was for a time super clutch late in games until he fell off a cliff due to age. We always get stars once they're already on the decline and never when they're in their prime.

Booker is in his prime

CP3's decline was more evident as he was running about all game and not being able to find a good shot in the clutch because he was out of energy by those clutch moments. And "saving" his legs for the 4th didn't really consistently work out either because he was a shadow out there for 3 quarters of the game. KD is now our CP3, clutch guy replacement. KD's decline will be a lot different to CP3's simply because his shooting won't decline and neither would his 7ft height and wingspan. Whether he's 25 or 40, that fadeaway shot will always be there for him just like it was for Dirk.

The other part of that drop off as a team, notable during the Dallas series and last season, was that CP3 just couldn't be relied on for consistent scoring. We've now replaced CP3 with KD and the results were clear in the playoffs, both KD and Book were able to average 30ppg against the eventual champs but we were still just short of that 3rd consistent scorer. Now we have Bradley Beal, Eric Gordon and DA, all of whom could put up 20pts on a random night.

Post #699 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Sep 6, 2023 4:27 am

matt131 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=46

Every fanbase of the team that signs him thinks they've got the formula/roster to get something real out of him (me included) and then end up with nothing but deep regret. Right now, Laker fans are that fanbase

sunsbg · Post #700 » by **sunsbg** » Wed Sep 6, 2023 5:42 am

Wood was looking good for Mavs in first half of the season, but apparently his D is terrible and attitude is bad so teams move away from him asap. I feel Suns already have a skilled, inconsistent player like that in Bol Bol.

With the Deandre trade, which is closer to your take?