Christian Wood offered Extension

[ejs78]

Around the 22min mark Banned talks about Wood:

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That's true, he is talented and a good guy at all... He needs to be more focused on what help the team.

But he tried and we have seen a little progression in the right way but Kidd rotations destroyed his mindset... I don't know if with a better coach the things would have gone well. Probably not.

Clearly all situations are different but his past coaches have been:

Brett Brown
Steve Clifford
Budenholzer
Gentry
Casey
Silas
Kidd

Thats an overall solid group and all passed on him after in short periods of time.

[41Dirk41]

Around the 22min mark Banned talks about Wood:

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That's true, he is talented and a good guy at all... He needs to be more focused on what help the team.

But he tried and we have seen a little progression in the right way but Kidd rotations destroyed his mindset... I don't know if with a better coach the things would have gone well. Probably not.

Clearly all situations are different but his past coaches have been:

Brett Brown
Steve Clifford
Budenholzer
Gentry
Casey
Silas
Kidd

Thats an overall solid group and all passed on him after in short periods of time.

It's a good point of view...

[Mr B]

Wood is such an enigma. His December to January stretch as a starter was awesome. He played the best defense of his life, him and Luka were connecting really well, Thousands of Mavs fans wanted to give him the 4/77 extension. Guy averaged 20pts/9reb/2blks while shooting 52/37/80 shooting splits. That's pretty damn good.

Then he comes back and loses his starting spot entirely. His shot never falls the same after the thumb injury. He stops caring about defense and just becomes a selfish player. Then all those issues with his agent sending all those texts seemed to just sour his value everywhere.

Any team that wants to give him a large contract right now would be crazy but vet min? That's low risk, high reward. I don't want him here anymore though. Time to move on.

Wood as 6th man off the bench for the MLE is a steal, it's becoming bizarre what happened to him, there must be some rumor about Rockets/Mavs locker room we haven't heard.

Anyone who offers Wood the full MLE is definitely not getting a steal considering he can’t even get a vet min contract right now.

[Mr B]

Around the 22min mark Banned talks about Wood:

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That's true, he is talented and a good guy at all... He needs to be more focused on what help the team.

But he tried and we have seen a little progression in the right way but Kidd rotations destroyed his mindset... I don't know if with a better coach the things would have gone well. Probably not.

Did Kidd destroy his mindset with the other 6 teams that Wood failed on?

[41Dirk41]

Around the 22min mark Banned talks about Wood:

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That's true, he is talented and a good guy at all... He needs to be more focused on what help the team.

But he tried and we have seen a little progression in the right way but Kidd rotations destroyed his mindset... I don't know if with a better coach the things would have gone well. Probably not.

Did Kidd destroy his mindset with the other 6 teams that Wood failed on?

Last year was the first time that he played for a winning team, you can't compare that year with past years.

He had a great stint where he helped us to win games.

He is a Bobby Portis guy, in the right team with the right spot and a good coach probably he can play... We had nothing of those 3

[ejs78]

That's true, he is talented and a good guy at all... He needs to be more focused on what help the team.

But he tried and we have seen a little progression in the right way but Kidd rotations destroyed his mindset... I don't know if with a better coach the things would have gone well. Probably not.

Did Kidd destroy his mindset with the other 6 teams that Wood failed on?

Last year was the first time that he played for a winning team, you can't compare that year with past years.

He had a great stint where he helped us to win games.

He is a Bobby Portis guy, in the right team with the right spot and a good coach probably he can play... We had nothing of those 3

Actually he could have been Bobby Portis before Bobby Portis became Bobby Portis, but the 60 win Bucks said nah we good.

[41Dirk41]

Did Kidd destroy his mindset with the other 6 teams that Wood failed on?

Last year was the first time that he played for a winning team, you can't compare that year with past years.

He had a great stint where he helped us to win games.

He is a Bobby Portis guy, in the right team with the right spot and a good coach probably he can play... We had nothing of those 3

Actually he could have been Bobby Portis before Bobby Portis became Bobby Portis, but the 60 win Bucks said nah we good.

Yes... Wood from the bench with a Holiday, Middleton, Giannis and Lopez squad could be good too

[41Dirk41]

Tim MacMahon:"Frankly, Jason Kidd didn't want him when they made the trade."

So he never had a chance with Kidd like i said, it's useless talking about his stats, his defense or his attitude. He was done before the start of the season.

Kidd is not a good coach obviously but i'm ok with his opinion about Wood, i can't only understand why they traded for him... We throw away a FRP for a player who was not in our coach plan.

[Michaellam1987]

Last year was the first time that he played for a winning team, you can't compare that year with past years.

He had a great stint where he helped us to win games.

He is a Bobby Portis guy, in the right team with the right spot and a good coach probably he can play... We had nothing of those 3

Actually he could have been Bobby Portis before Bobby Portis became Bobby Portis, but the 60 win Bucks said nah we good.

Yes... Wood from the bench with a Holiday, Middleton, Giannis and Lopez squad could be good too

A poor defender like Wood being surrounded by at least 3 very good defenders, this definitely make Wood looking a lot better.

[41Dirk41]

Signed 2 years deal for the Fakers...

[HMFFL]

Wood could be so much more if he played defense.

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[ejs78]

He was promised a big role.

Is there more to this quote like I'm looking to put this team over the top from last year? Guy is a ME first player.

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[41Dirk41]

They knew who is C-Wood, they traded a 1RP for him despite Kidd doesn't like him... Horrible move by Cuban and Nico.

[ejs78]

They knew who is C-Wood, they traded a 1RP for him despite Kidd doesn't like him... Horrible move by Cuban and Nico.

What does the pick matter if they got Hardy in the 2nd round and said they would have taken him in the first with their pick if they didnt trade it? To get anything of significant value you need to trade multiple FRPs and some young talent which the Mavs dont have. They traded a late first and trash for a gamble. I wouldnt call this a horrible move, but more of a break even in that Wood was trash and Hardy has some promise.

[ejs78]

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This is hilarious.

Wood is not a HUGE signing, he cant defend as was stated, they compared to Pau Gasol whos in the HOF, stated Wood can play the 5 which he cant, and hes not a shot blocker.

[41Dirk41]

They knew who is C-Wood, they traded a 1RP for him despite Kidd doesn't like him... Horrible move by Cuban and Nico.

What does the pick matter if they got Hardy in the 2nd round and said they would have taken him in the first with their pick if they didnt trade it? To get anything of significant value you need to trade multiple FRPs and some young talent which the Mavs dont have. They traded a late first and trash for a gamble. I wouldnt call this a horrible move, but more of a break even in that Wood was trash and Hardy has some promise.

I know that you are a corporate guy but throw away a 1RP for a player who had not future here is absolutely an horrible move.

There were a lot of good players available for that pick... Bogi, Vanderbilt ecc ecc

[ejs78]

They knew who is C-Wood, they traded a 1RP for him despite Kidd doesn't like him... Horrible move by Cuban and Nico.

What does the pick matter if they got Hardy in the 2nd round and said they would have taken him in the first with their pick if they didnt trade it? To get anything of significant value you need to trade multiple FRPs and some young talent which the Mavs dont have. They traded a late first and trash for a gamble. I wouldnt call this a horrible move, but more of a break even in that Wood was trash and Hardy has some promise.

I know that you are a corporate guy but throw away a 1RP for a player who had not future here is absolutely an horrible move.

There were a lot of good players available for that pick... Bogi, Vanderbilt ecc ecc

Not sure what a corporate guy means but ok. Again they still drafted the guy who they would have taken in that spot in the 2nd round.

I like Vanderbilt, but by the end of the playoffs he was about a 10 min a night guy since he cant shoot. As for Bogi that would have been nice and the Mavs still clearly want him, but that doesnt mean a team is going to trade you that player for mostly trash.

[41Dirk41]

[quote="ejs78"][quote="41Dirk41"][quote="ejs78"]

What does the pick matter if they got Hardy in the 2nd round and said they would have taken him in the first with their pick if they didnt trade it? To get anything of significant value you need to trade multiple FRPs and some young talent which the Mavs dont have. They traded a late first and trash for a gamble. I wouldnt call this a horrible move, but more of a break even in that Wood was trash and Hardy has some promise.[/quote]

I know that you are a corporate guy but throw away a 1RP for a player who had not future here is absolutely an horrible move.

There were a lot of good players available for that pick... Bogi, Vanderbilt ecc ecc[/quote]


Not sure what a corporate guy means but ok. Again they still drafted the guy who they would have taken in that spot in the 2nd round.

I like Vanderbilt, but by the end of the playoffs he was about a 10 min a night guy since he cant shoot. As for Bogi that would have been nice and the Mavs still clearly want him, but that doesnt mean a team is going to trade you that player for mostly trash.[/quote]

It's not an insult, you just often tend to defend the FO over criticism despite they maked very bad moves.

Btw they traded away a 1RP for a guy who never had a chance to stay here and say we would have picked Hardy with that pick is not a justification because we can trade that first for a useful player or for unload some bad contract and pick Hardy just like they did.

Anyway a lot of good players were traded for a 1RP, we lost a chance for upgrade the roster and that's called a horrible move by a no exp FO for sure (just like McGee contract).
No doubt about that.

[ejs78]

I know that you are a corporate guy but throw away a 1RP for a player who had not future here is absolutely an horrible move.

There were a lot of good players available for that pick... Bogi, Vanderbilt ecc ecc

Not sure what a corporate guy means but ok. Again they still drafted the guy who they would have taken in that spot in the 2nd round.

I like Vanderbilt, but by the end of the playoffs he was about a 10 min a night guy since he cant shoot. As for Bogi that would have been nice and the Mavs still clearly want him, but that doesnt mean a team is going to trade you that player for mostly trash.

It's not an insult, you just often tend to defend the FO over criticism despite they maked very bad moves.

Btw they traded away a 1RP for a guy who never had a chance to stay here and say we would have picked Hardy with that pick is not a justification because we can trade that first for a useful player or for unload some bad contract and pick Hardy just like they did. Hardy was also at 37 so Im not so sure a team is going to take on salary to give up that pick or take on salary to get the pick.

Anyway a lot of good players were traded for a 1RP, we lost a chance for upgrade the roster and that's called a horrible move by a no exp FO for sure (just like McGee contract).
No doubt about that.

I try to live in reality and not slam the team over things that likely werent going to happen.

Alot of good players were traded for a FRP?

Bojan- No FRP Do we know the Jazz would have taken the same deal for Wood? Getting Kelly O might get them a better player than the Mavs pick.
Brogdon- 1 FRP Celtics tried to trade already
Huerter- 1 FRP Could go either way on wanting him or not
Grant- 1 FRP He was here in Detroit and he's an interesting guy who I dont think the Mavs were ever in play for
Oneale - 1 FRP Not moving the needle
Melton- 1 FRP Could go either way on wanting him or not
Wood- 1FRP Was a gamble in which some wanted to hand him 4/77

Seems like a big game of IFs on stating the Mavs could have done this, that, or the other and still gotten Hardy. Most teams in the league due their homework on what can/cant happen. Not sure what you mean by unload a bad contact and still pick Hardy? I mean the Mavs had to take on Holmes to get Omax which is usually how that works but I could be missing something. Is anyone going to take on $$$ for the 37 pick or take on money to give it up?

[41Dirk41]

[quote="ejs78"][quote="41Dirk41"][quote="ejs78"]


Not sure what a corporate guy means but ok. Again they still drafted the guy who they would have taken in that spot in the 2nd round.

I like Vanderbilt, but by the end of the playoffs he was about a 10 min a night guy since he cant shoot. As for Bogi that would have been nice and the Mavs still clearly want him, but that doesnt mean a team is going to trade you that player for mostly trash.[/quote]

It's not an insult, you just often tend to defend the FO over criticism despite they maked very bad moves.

Btw they traded away a 1RP for a guy who never had a chance to stay here and say we would have picked Hardy with that pick is not a justification because we can trade that first for a useful player or for unload some bad contract and pick Hardy just like they did. Hardy was also at 37 so Im not so sure a team is going to take on salary to give up that pick or take on salary to get the pick.

Anyway a lot of good players were traded for a 1RP, we lost a chance for upgrade the roster and that's called a horrible move by a no exp FO for sure (just like McGee contract).
No doubt about that.[/quote]

I try to live in reality and not slam the team over things that likely werent going to happen.

Alot of good players were traded for a FRP?

Bojan- No FRP Do we know the Jazz would have taken the same deal for Wood? Getting Kelly O might get them a better player than the Mavs pick.
Brogdon- 1 FRP Celtics tried to trade already
Huerter- 1 FRP Could go either way on wanting him or not
Grant- 1 FRP He was here in Detroit and he's an interesting guy who I dont think the Mavs were ever in play for
Oneale - 1 FRP Not moving the needle
Melton- 1 FRP Could go either way on wanting him or not
Wood- 1FRP Was a gamble in which some wanted to hand him 4/77

Seems like a big game of IFs on stating the Mavs could have done this, that, or the other and still gotten Hardy. Most teams in the league due their homework on what can/cant happen. Not sure what you mean by unload a bad contact and still pick Hardy? I mean the Mavs had to take on Holmes to get Omax which is usually how that works but I could be missing something. Is anyone going to take on $$$ for the 37 pick or take on money to give it up?[/quote]

The reality is that we give up a FRP for a player who never had a chance because our coach never wanted him.
It's looks like FO and coaching staff don't work together and that's terrible for a franchise.
That was definitely a wasted pick. And it's always bad when it happens. No excuses.

The FRPs are the most valuable asset in this NBA (i'm totally agree that are overrated but that's not the point) and we should know more than the others because i always read in this forum posts like "we don't have assets, we don't have picks ecc ecc".
Obviously if we trade those for players with no future here

It would have bene trade the pick with THJ for an expires for example but there was a lot of better moves than trade for a players who our coach not wanted.