Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - Store Grand Opening + Autographs 10/7

[ReasonablySober]

Journalism of every field is consumed by excerpting to fit a story. No investigation, no follow-up, no critical thinking.

If Giannis wanted to leave, we wouldn't be 'on the clock'. He'd leave.

He's not going to stay through a rebuild. We know this. If that time comes, the Bucks' and Giannis' incentives will largely be aligned.

That's not what he said. What he said is he's going to go where he has the best chance to win. Not, "As long as the Bucks are trying to win, we're cool." He's saying it doesn't matter if the Bucks are trying to win. If there's a better spot, that's where he wants to go.

[emunney]

Journalism of every field is consumed by excerpting to fit a story. No investigation, no follow-up, no critical thinking.

If Giannis wanted to leave, we wouldn't be 'on the clock'. He'd leave.

He's not going to stay through a rebuild. We know this. If that time comes, the Bucks' and Giannis' incentives will largely be aligned.

That's not what he said. What he said is he's going to go where he has the best chance to win. Not, "As long as the Bucks are trying to win, we're cool." He's saying it doesn't matter if the Bucks are trying to win. If there's a better spot, that's where he wants to go.

This is why they do it.

[Dick Tate]

Journalism of every field is consumed by excerpting to fit a story. No investigation, no follow-up, no critical thinking.

If Giannis wanted to leave, we wouldn't be 'on the clock'. He'd leave.

He's not going to stay through a rebuild. We know this. If that time comes, the Bucks' and Giannis' incentives will largely be aligned.

That's not what he said. What he said is he's going to go where he has the best chance to win. Not, "As long as the Bucks are trying to win, we're cool." He's saying it doesn't matter if the Bucks are trying to win. If there's a better spot, that's where he wants to go.

Seemed to be the opposite. He did preface it with "As long we (blah blah blah)", "I could see myself being with Milwaukee for the rest of my career."

[SupremeHustle]

Wonder what that Giannis trade package is gonna look like next June.

If Horst is negotiating it THERE WILL BE SECONDS.

[PG Graveyard]

I don’t understand what Giannis is trying to accomplish here. He better shoot 75 percent from the free throw line this year.

Spend more time with your family rather than calling out the Bucks and your teammates. Having to roster your brother is bad enough.

Although I still can’t discount this all being a ruse to pump up our picks for the next trade. I struggle to see him being this stupid but maybe something changed.

[Profound23]

Maybe he leaves...maybe he doesn't.


Let's just enjoy what we have while we have it. Win the 2024 title!

[rilamann]

Sounds like Giannis doesn't plan on leaving, unless the Bucks got cheap and didn't have a commitment to winning. At that point I wouldn't really blame Giannis for wanting to leave. So I don't really think he is wrong here, I get where he is coming from.

That said, it's a really bad look on Giannis' part to say this stuff out loud. Mostly because he would likley have more than 1 championship right now if he could make a free throw.

Plus, your most recent season ended in a 2pt loss in overtime at home, where you shot 40% from the free throw line on 23 attempts. If I was Giannis I would probably stop talking.

[ReasonablySober]

I'm treating this season like it's Giannis's last in Milwaukee and I'm almost fine with that. We got the championship experience. It won't ever be better than that. I really hope the Bucks win more and Giannis is here forever, but Giannis sticking around doesn't seem at all likely. Either the Bucks win this season and they're that much older a year from now, or they don't and they're that much older a year from now. Either way, Giannis is gonna look for a better situation and it probably won't be difficult to do so.

[emunney]

Journalism of every field is consumed by excerpting to fit a story. No investigation, no follow-up, no critical thinking.

If Giannis wanted to leave, we wouldn't be 'on the clock'. He'd leave.

He's not going to stay through a rebuild. We know this. If that time comes, the Bucks' and Giannis' incentives will largely be aligned.

That's not what he said. What he said is he's going to go where he has the best chance to win. Not, "As long as the Bucks are trying to win, we're cool." He's saying it doesn't matter if the Bucks are trying to win. If there's a better spot, that's where he wants to go.

"If the Milwaukee Bucks organization -- which is the same thing I say every single year -- as long as we are in for a Championship, as long as nobody's comfortable, as long as everybody sacrifice, you know, the same amount of time and blood and sweat that I've sacrificed for this city, to win a championship, we are all good."

[ReasonablySober]

Journalism of every field is consumed by excerpting to fit a story. No investigation, no follow-up, no critical thinking.

If Giannis wanted to leave, we wouldn't be 'on the clock'. He'd leave.

He's not going to stay through a rebuild. We know this. If that time comes, the Bucks' and Giannis' incentives will largely be aligned.

That's not what he said. What he said is he's going to go where he has the best chance to win. Not, "As long as the Bucks are trying to win, we're cool." He's saying it doesn't matter if the Bucks are trying to win. If there's a better spot, that's where he wants to go.

"If the Milwaukee Bucks organization -- which is the same thing I say every single year -- as long as we are in for a Championship, as long as nobody's comfortable, as long as everybody sacrifice, you know, the same amount of time and blood and sweat that I've sacrificed for this city, to win a championship, we are all good."

"If there is a better situation for me to win the Larry O'Brien I have to take that situation."

[emunney]

That's not what he said. What he said is he's going to go where he has the best chance to win. Not, "As long as the Bucks are trying to win, we're cool." He's saying it doesn't matter if the Bucks are trying to win. If there's a better spot, that's where he wants to go.

"If the Milwaukee Bucks organization -- which is the same thing I say every single year -- as long as we are in for a Championship, as long as nobody's comfortable, as long as everybody sacrifice, you know, the same amount of time and blood and sweat that I've sacrificed for this city, to win a championship, we are all good."

"If there is a better situation for me to win the Larry O'Brien I have to take that situation."

It's a generalization and should not taken to mean *any* situation that could be interpreted as better. He went to great lengths to describe the very simple criteria (be a thoroughly competitive franchise) that would lead to him staying forever. I just think it's going to be tough for us to be able to do that. Maybe he does, too, and that's why he's floating this. Right now we have a lot too much riding on Dre and MarJon. I do believe he'll love Dre though.

[Bucknado]

Translation: Don’t Dame me.

[Mtsportsfan]

Love Giannis ! But I'm getting real tired of these guys saying how bad they want to win but yet take all the money with no room to sign anybody else , but expect them to pull a rabbit out of their ass to sign somebody who can help! I feel you can't have it both ways !

[Milbucks96]

Giannis doesn’t owe the bucks anything, the bucks owes Giannis nothing. All good things come to an end yada yada. I’ve enjoyed contending and will continue to do so until that’s not the case and will be there for the rebuild too.

[Rstuedes24]

It’s fine that he wants to keep the org on their toes but do we really need multiple public comments? I get he probably gets bated into some questions but man, a simple yeah I like it here but I’m committed to winning wherever I am kinda comment would garner a lot less attention

I hope he realizes too that even though he works on his game a ton, he still has major flaws with shooting and free throws and being the leader of the team he has to take responsibility for Ls too

[fansinceforever]

His comments can be interpreted either way. We don't know but it's, at the very least, odd he said that.

Giannis isn't stupid. I don't see anything wrong with putting pressure on the organization. In fact, I'm glad he's doing it.

[Plossum]

I don't really blame Giannis. He's got maybe 5ish years of his prime to go? His next contract decision is going to be the most important of his career (from a perspective of wanting to win titles) and the Bucks have a very tricky path out of the Midds/Jrue era into whatever comes next.

We're kinda screwed. The moves out there are very limited for how we move into the next era. It'd be great if we could find a Tony Parker and Manu late in the draft like the Spurs did but it's pretty unlikely. We can't afford to tank either. Our best hope seems to be cobbling together a good enough team kinda like the Mavs in 2011.

Having a think about some teams that had an MVP level player who were able to pivot successfully into a new era:

* Bulls from 93 to 96. They mostly tinkered with the role guys though. The Jordan/Pipp combo was key to this teams success.
* Spurs from 99 to 03. They were ahead of the curve scouting the good Euroleague guys and nabbed Parker and Manu
* Lakers from 03 to 07. Traded for Pau. We all know what happened. I'd be surprised if there's a Pau level deal out there for us. What's the modern equivalent to this? Us trading for KAT or Garland?
* Mavs in 2011. Cobbled a group around Dirk through trades and FA. I think this is most realistic path for us. This is kinda how we built the current core around Giannis.

I can't think of another team since the 2011 Mavs that has successfully rebuilt itself around its superstar. Interestingly that's also the same time as when the Super Teams concept became a reality.

Not saying it's impossible but if we get to the end of that 24/25 season, we better hope Giannis likes what he sees in the roster around him.

[PG Graveyard]

If he isn’t going to sign with us and is going to say these asinine things to put us on blast we may as well run him into the ground this year and play him 38 minutes every night and then trade him for all the Knicks picks and stuff

[Ron Swanson]

“I’m a Milwaukee Buck, but most importantly I’m a winner… If there is a better situation for me to win the Larry O’Brien I have to take that better situation.”

There’s nothing new here, and Antetokounmpo is not pushing his way out the door. The Bucks will be one of the clear title contenders heading into this season (and likely the next one). Milwaukee fans can exhale (as much as fans of any team with a superstar player can ever exhale).

https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/antetokounmpo-looking-for-his-next-challenge-that-may-not-be-with-bucks

However, we need to admire Antetokounmpo’s honesty. He could have just said the perfunctory “I want to be a Buck the rest of my life” line and not meant it like so many other superstars. We should appreciate his understanding that three years from now is almost another lifetime in the NBA considering the speed of change, and who knows what the landscape of the league will look like. When he can be a free agent in 2025 the NBA will be different, and while the Bucks can offer the Greek Freak more money than any other team, the sums will be so astronomical (his 2025-26 player option is for $51.9 million) that the dollars lost to change teams won’t really impact the decision.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2020/12/16/bucks-giannis-antetokounmpo-discusses-supermax-contract-extension/3922281001/

On whether he considered a different market:

(with a smile) What you expect me to say, "I thought about it, I was about to leave and go to ...?" I can't say a team now because (people with think) it's happening. Go to Seattle, the SuperSonics, that's what you expect me to say. There was obviously thought behind it, but I wanted to be here. I want to be here, want to help my teammates, help this organization to win a championship. I want my teammates and organization to help me win a championship, it goes both ways. I tried to keep it away. It puts a lot of pressure on athletes and it gave me a headache all summer, people asking me and people talking about me. I just wanted to be left alone. I knew what I wanted in my head, the goal is to win a championship, and I know here we have a chance to win a championship.

How did the offseason moves impact his decision:

"I was always leaning in this direction. I just wanted the team to improve and be better, and the team got better. We have great players ready to compete, great human beings, great fits for our culture. But I wanted to be here and I'm here."

[MickeyDavis]

Much like Rodgers the last couple of years in GB, I just want Giannis to STFU. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯