Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Payne Signed

[Daver]

I even read somewhere that giannis wanted beasley

[Daver]

Never took Giannis as the Aaron Rodgers passive aggressive type. Say what you mean or dont say anything at all. And most importantly say it to management and ownership and not some sh.tty podcast

Maybe he did that could be 1 reason brooks n midds were resigned n bud was fired and AD was hired.Cant put all the blame on horst giannis has massive holes in his game that reared its ugly face in game 5

[Daver]

Sell me on how Sexton or IQ are difference makers and can be the reason the Bucks win a championship this year versus flaming out in the early rounds again.

What I saw from IQ in the playoff last year certainly doesn’t give me confidence.

Now if it’s a legit option to trade everything for Dame, I’m all-in.

Anything that moves holiday to the 2 is a win win sexton has something no other buck has n that is ge csn create his own shot is very quick and would be that PG now n for the future being only 24

[fansinceforever]

At this point, i'm including a 1st or swap for Sexton and I'd do both for IQ. It's mid September. Time to get serious.

Disagree. Giannis won't consider signing his extension until next summer/fall. See how the current team can do under a new coach this season, then make the big move next summer, if needed. Don't want to be in a position of needing to make a big move next summer and being all out of ammo.

If we get bounced early again and Giannis harbors resentment for the FO for not maximizing another year of his prime, then we may not get that opportunity.

I dont want to play out a "prove it" season next year and risk getting nothing. This is the make or break year, imo.

[Daver]

At this point, i'm including a 1st or swap for Sexton and I'd do both for IQ. It's mid September. Time to get serious.

Disagree. Giannis won't consider signing his extension until next summer/fall. See how the current team can do under a new coach this season, then make the big move next summer, if needed. Don't want to be in a position of needing to make a big move next summer and being all out of ammo.

If we get bounced early again and Giannis harbors resentment for the FO for not maximizing another year of his prime, then we may not get that opportunity.

I dont want to play out a "prove it" season next year and risk getting nothing. This is the make or break year, imo.

Unfortunate as i really think with a healthy midds in 22 n healthy giannis in 23 we have a great shot of going back to the final.I dont know how gisnnis can get to pissed atvthe bucks FO no midds still go 7 games n last year no giannis for 3 n a not ready to play yet midds.This team as is if healthy a top 3 seed

[raferfenix]

Giannis is acting more like a guy demanding a trade at season’s end than someone who’d give us the offseason to maximize those 3 firsts we can trade after the draft.

Lebron caused plenty of drama in the press when he wanted a team to trade future assets to win now.

That seems like the clearest rationale to me why Giannis would be doing this publicly now.

The argument that he should sit tight for a season until we can trade more picks for a better player doesn’t seem to have persuaded him…just like it didn’t persuade Lebron last year.

[fansinceforever]

Disagree. Giannis won't consider signing his extension until next summer/fall. See how the current team can do under a new coach this season, then make the big move next summer, if needed. Don't want to be in a position of needing to make a big move next summer and being all out of ammo.

If we get bounced early again and Giannis harbors resentment for the FO for not maximizing another year of his prime, then we may not get that opportunity.

I dont want to play out a "prove it" season next year and risk getting nothing. This is the make or break year, imo.

Unfortunate as i really think with a healthy midds in 22 n healthy giannis in 23 we have a great shot of going back to the final.I dont know how gisnnis can get to pissed atvthe bucks FO no midds still go 7 games n last year no giannis for 3 n a not ready to play yet midds.This team as is if healthy a top 3 seed

Seeding won't matter. if we get bounced early again teams around the league are going to move mountains to prepare to sell Giannis on a situation that may be better,

This roster another year older and with another failure in their rearview will look less appeaing.

[emunney]

Apropos of nothing, who's the worst player you'd trade Jrue for?

[soxperry]

Giannis is acting more like a guy demanding a trade at season’s end than someone who’d give us the offseason to maximize those 3 firsts we can trade after the draft.

Lebron caused plenty of drama in the press when he wanted a team to trade future assets to win now.

That seems like the clearest rationale to me why Giannis would be doing this publicly now.

The argument that he should sit tight for a season until we can trade more picks for a better player doesn’t seem to have persuaded him…just like it didn’t persuade Lebron last year.

do we know that the Bucks told Giannis that that was the plan? i think you are making assumptions based on what is commonly kicked around on real gm. im personally a big proponent of waiting until we have the largest asset pile to move for a truly great player, but that doesn't mean the Bucks see it that way.

to me, the simplest rationale is that it's very obvious to everyone that this core has an expiration date and we dont yet know how the Bucks will handle that transition. Giannis wants to make sure that it's handled in a way that keeps us a contender (if that's possible) before he wants to re-sign. that's my read.

[SupremeHustle]

Y'all wanna get crazy? Let's get crazy!

[theFireBlanket]

Y'all wanna get crazy? Let's get crazy!

Hakeem better be moving to Milwaukee, to live with Giannis, along with those picks they're offering.

[theFireBlanket]

Watch on YouTube

[raferfenix]

3 way deals with the Rockets?

The Houston Rockets are working to trade guard Kevin Porter Jr. in the wake of his charges of felony assault and strangulation due to an alleged attack on his girlfriend, league sources tell The Athletic.

Those sources say the Rockets have contacted multiple teams offering draft compensation as incentive to receive Porter, who has the 2023-24 season slated for $15.9 million in Year 1 of a four-year, $82.5 million deal, with three non-guaranteed years. In deal scenarios using Porter’s contract, the Rockets would be using his salary to target a player under contract who can play immediately and help the team, league sources said.

[Teams] would also have to weigh whether they’re receiving enough draft picks for essentially an expiring contract who they would likely waive immediately upon trade.

https://theathletic.com/4861233/2023/09/13/rockets-trade-kevin-porter-jr/

[tedbrogen]

3 way deals with the Rockets?

The Houston Rockets are working to trade guard Kevin Porter Jr. in the wake of his charges of felony assault and strangulation due to an alleged attack on his girlfriend, league sources tell The Athletic.

Those sources say the Rockets have contacted multiple teams offering draft compensation as incentive to receive Porter, who has the 2023-24 season slated for $15.9 million in Year 1 of a four-year, $82.5 million deal, with three non-guaranteed years. In deal scenarios using Porter’s contract, the Rockets would be using his salary to target a player under contract who can play immediately and help the team, league sources said.

[Teams] would also have to weigh whether they’re receiving enough draft picks for essentially an expiring contract who they would likely waive immediately upon trade.

https://theathletic.com/4861233/2023/09/13/rockets-trade-kevin-porter-jr/

Give them something useful for KPJ and picks and flip those picks +28 swap, 29 pick, and what you can get for Jrue to Portland for Dame. Two years of Dame/Midds/Giannis and hope that shows Giannis enough to stick around after.

[Badgerlander]

Sell me on how Sexton or IQ are difference makers and can be the reason the Bucks win a championship this year versus flaming out in the early rounds again.

What I saw from IQ in the playoff last year certainly doesn’t give me confidence.

Now if it’s a legit option to trade everything for Dame, I’m all-in.

Anything that moves holiday to the 2 is a win win sexton has something no other buck has n that is ge csn create his own shot is very quick and would be that PG now n for the future being only 24

Why would a 6th man move holiday to the 2? I wouldn’t give up a first for Sexton, he’s a terrible defender that would have to be hidden on defense. We need someone that can stop dribble penetration.

Jevon Carter was a very good defender, good at stopping dribble penetration and good at defending the PnR. He was also great off the ball at catch and shoot 3s (made 142 threes last year, Sexton attempted 122). We didnt play him in the playoffs because he is too small, not switchable. Sexton is the exact same size but he can’t stop dribble penetration, is a terrible PnR defender, and is an iso dribble penetration scorer that had his best most efficient season playing all but 15 games off the bench.

[Daver]

Sell me on how Sexton or IQ are difference makers and can be the reason the Bucks win a championship this year versus flaming out in the early rounds again.

What I saw from IQ in the playoff last year certainly doesn’t give me confidence.

Now if it’s a legit option to trade everything for Dame, I’m all-in.

Anything that moves holiday to the 2 is a win win sexton has something no other buck has n that is ge csn create his own shot is very quick and would be that PG now n for the future being only 24

Why would a 6th man move holiday to the 2? I wouldn’t give up a first for Sexton, he’s a terrible defender that would have to be hidden on defense. We need someone that can stop dribble penetration.

Jevon Carter was a very good defender, good at stopping dribble penetration and good at defending the PnR. He was also great off the ball at catch and shoot 3s (made 142 threes last year, Sexton attempted 122). We didnt play him in the playoffs because he is too small, not switchable. Sexton is the exact same size but he can’t stop dribble penetration, is a terrible PnR defender, and is an iso dribble penetration scorer that had his best most efficient season playing all but 15 games off the bench.

Ok you sold me is rozier better than sexton

[German Athens]

Apropos of nothing, who's the worst player you'd trade Jrue for?

This is a fun one.

Jalen green comes to mind.

Plenty of interesting options with how you approach the question. A one for one swap in a vacuum, or the primary piece coming back with additional assets.

Sticking with the one for one idea though, but with players I think are better than green: jalen Williams, mr. hip extension velocity, maxey

[Daver]

Apropos of nothing, who's the worst player you'd trade Jrue for?

This is a fun one.

Jalen green comes to mind.

Plenty of interesting options with how you approach the question. A one for one swap in a vacuum, or the primary piece coming back with additional assets.

Sticking with the one for one idea though, but with players I think are better than green: jalen Williams, mr. hip extension velocity, maxey

I think you trade jrue for anyone other than dame and giannis will be pissed.He loves jrue n midds and personalky i think he rold horst he wanted this core back.If bucks are competitive amd get to the finals which i think they absolutely can giannis will stay.JMO

[Ron Swanson]

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[engelmartin]

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