Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade

[Mak]

Sixers makes the most sense imo. Like why wouldn't you want to team up Lillard and Embiid? That would give them the best duo in the EC, and up there with Jokic and Murray for best in league.

They have both Maxey and Harden to work with as trade bait.

But will Portland want another guard? Scottie is a much better for for them at forward. Maxey would only complicate Simon's, Sharpe, and scoot situation, causing a glut in the backcourt.

Supposedly Sixers wont trade Maxey for anyone. It would have to be Harden going somewhere and then combination of assets from Sixers and team Harden is going to. I think it’s pretty hard trade to pull off , even with Maxey… you are right it’s a weird mix for Portland. 3 team trade makes it complicated.

[Son Goku 25]

I heard it's the bucks but I can see the nets also being involved. They don't have a reason to lose at this point and were interested in our win now players not too long ago.

[MoneyBall]

Sixers makes the most sense imo. Like why wouldn't you want to team up Lillard and Embiid? That would give them the best duo in the EC, and up there with Jokic and Murray for best in league.

They have both Maxey and Harden to work with as trade bait.

But will Portland want another guard? Scottie is a much better for for them at forward. Maxey would only complicate Simon's, Sharpe, and scoot situation, causing a glut in the backcourt.

They'd likely need a third team. There'd be higher bids for Maxey compared to Herro.

Scottie would be better for POR, but luckily Masai isn't that crazy.

[MoneyBall]

Sixers makes the most sense imo. Like why wouldn't you want to team up Lillard and Embiid? That would give them the best duo in the EC, and up there with Jokic and Murray for best in league.

They have both Maxey and Harden to work with as trade bait.

But will Portland want another guard? Scottie is a much better for for them at forward. Maxey would only complicate Simon's, Sharpe, and scoot situation, causing a glut in the backcourt.

Supposedly Sixers wont trade Maxey for anyone. It would have to be Harden going somewhere and then combination of assets from Sixers and team Harden is going to. I think it’s pretty hard trade to pull off , even with Maxey… you are right it’s a weird mix for Portland. 3 team trade makes it complicated.

Yeah I heard that too, I don't buy it.

[JRoy]

What other eastern teams could it be?

Bucks - no
Celtics - Maybe, Brogon is not happy and it would have to be a deal with a lot of picks.
Sixers - Maybe in some kind of multiple 3 team James trade. They wanted to keep cap space .
Cavs - No
Nets. - Nets are a wild card. Would be a strange move.
Atlanta - No
Bulls - No
Pacers - No
Magic - no
Pistons - No
wizards - no
Knicks - no

Why not MIL?

It would have to be a 3 team trade, which makes it more complicated. Jrue would have to go to a third team. Bucks dont have control of their first round picks until 2028 and they dont have any young assets. Maybe you can make a case that owners would not want to take on his salary. Even if they wanted to it would be just hard to pull it off.

I think it would have to be at least 3 teams in any case.

[YogurtProducer]

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It's clearly us... we're getting Lillard folks.

All those trade offers that JRoy rejected will come to fruition lol.

at this point, JRoy will be happy at any trade so the team can focus on the youth movement and drama Lillard created.

JRoy is convinced they are geting back 45M of young players who are former lottery picks. No salary filler needed. 5 Barnes' level prospects coming to POR

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Sixers makes the most sense imo. Like why wouldn't you want to team up Lillard and Embiid? That would give them the best duo in the EC, and up there with Jokic and Murray for best in league.

They have both Maxey and Harden to work with as trade bait.

But will Portland want another guard? Scottie is a much better for for them at forward. Maxey would only complicate Simon's, Sharpe, and scoot situation, causing a glut in the backcourt.

Raptors aren’t trading Barnes. Siakam is good as gone if there was a trade to be made

[YogurtProducer]

Sixers makes the most sense imo. Like why wouldn't you want to team up Lillard and Embiid? That would give them the best duo in the EC, and up there with Jokic and Murray for best in league.

They have both Maxey and Harden to work with as trade bait.

But will Portland want another guard? Scottie is a much better for for them at forward. Maxey would only complicate Simon's, Sharpe, and scoot situation, causing a glut in the backcourt.

Raptors aren’t trading Barnes. Siakam is good as gone if there was a trade to be made

0% chance we trade Siakam just to get Lillard I would think. That just would make no sense to me to go completely win now then trade away the top 20 player you would pair him with.

Lillard ain't gonna be excited to play with Barnes and GTJ.

[MoneyBall]

Crazy talk, I know:

Bulls - Lillard

Blazers - Pat Williams, Lonzo Ball, 2026 FRP, 2028 FRP.

Bulls going all in on offense no D.

[YogurtProducer]

I remember someone (Cynic maybe?) worried about trading Barnes for 2 years of Lillard.

2027 (the year Dame expires) is the same year SGA expires. I really feel like our FO is going to make a significant push for SGA, so I wonder how much more aggressive they would be willing to be over the next 24-36 months knowing they are going to pivot to a SGA push in 2027.

[MoneyBall]

I remember someone (Cynic maybe?) worried about trading Barnes for 2 years of Lillard.

2027 (the year Dame expires) is the same year SGA expires. I really feel like our FO is going to make a significant push for SGA, so I wonder how much more aggressive they would be willing to be over the next 24-36 months knowing they are going to pivot to a SGA push in 2027.

I predict our chances of getting SGA in 4 years from now to be around 5%. I'm being generous.

[YogurtProducer]

I remember someone (Cynic maybe?) worried about trading Barnes for 2 years of Lillard.

2027 (the year Dame expires) is the same year SGA expires. I really feel like our FO is going to make a significant push for SGA, so I wonder how much more aggressive they would be willing to be over the next 24-36 months knowing they are going to pivot to a SGA push in 2027.

I predict our chances of getting SGA in 4 years from now to be around 5%. I'm being generous.

I agree, but I just have a feeling that is what our FO is going to try and do.

2027 would be about the end or just after Siakam's prime, OG would be getting toward 30, Scottie is likely on a max (and my guess is only 2 of those 3 are all still here even), Dick is going onto his second contract, etc.

If OKC makes absolutely no noise in the next 4 years though he is leaving IMO. And us being the hometown team gives us a leg up too.

[JB7]

I remember someone (Cynic maybe?) worried about trading Barnes for 2 years of Lillard.

2027 (the year Dame expires) is the same year SGA expires. I really feel like our FO is going to make a significant push for SGA, so I wonder how much more aggressive they would be willing to be over the next 24-36 months knowing they are going to pivot to a SGA push in 2027.

First of all, if SGA leaves OKC, it will be because he demands a trade, which means teams will need assets to trade. SGA will be offered a supermax extension, which he will take. He is not leaving that money on the table to join a depleted Raps team in 4 years, if they had to trade Barnes to free up the cap space.

[Tor_Raps]

Only stupid front offices make moves in the present with something they have 0 control over in the future.

Please let the Knicks from 2002 to 2022 be an example of this. Oh and the Raptors of 2021 when we tried for Giannis a full offseason prior to when he was even a free agent lol.

Anything we do now should be simply to make ourselves better and if we are in a position to go after a guy like SGA, we pivot accordingly only when that's a 100% outcome.

[JRoy]

It's clearly us... we're getting Lillard folks.

All those trade offers that JRoy rejected will come to fruition lol.

at this point, JRoy will be happy at any trade so the team can focus on the youth movement and drama Lillard created.

JRoy is convinced they are geting back 45M of young players who are former lottery picks. No salary filler needed. 5 Barnes' level prospects coming to POR

Straw man.

You can do better.

[Tor_Raps]

at this point, JRoy will be happy at any trade so the team can focus on the youth movement and drama Lillard created.

JRoy is convinced they are geting back 45M of young players who are former lottery picks. No salary filler needed. 5 Barnes' level prospects coming to POR

Straw man.

You can do better.

We all know you're just hoping that your team gets back what you'd expect for a top 15 player who's been loyal his whole career.

Raptor fans are still sour at how the Vince Carter situation played out over 20 years ago loll.

[JRoy]

JRoy is convinced they are geting back 45M of young players who are former lottery picks. No salary filler needed. 5 Barnes' level prospects coming to POR

Straw man.

You can do better.

We all know you're just hoping that your team gets back what you'd expect for a top 15 player who's been loyal his whole career.

Raptor fans are still sour at how the Vince Carter situation played out over 20 years ago loll.

I’d be satisfied with Simmons, a young guy and 2-3 frp

[Zeno]

Straw man.

You can do better.

We all know you're just hoping that your team gets back what you'd expect for a top 15 player who's been loyal his whole career.

Raptor fans are still sour at how the Vince Carter situation played out over 20 years ago loll.

I’d be satisfied with Simmons, a young guy and 2-3 frp

Yikes. I think you might actually end up happy with the outcome then.

[Pointgod]

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It is probably the Nets. Keep in mind, they don't control their own picks in the short term, so no incentive to lose. And for Portland, since they would be trading Dame to the Nets, they wouldn't want the Nets picks anyways, in the short term, because presumably Dame is going to help their performance.

I could see Simmons & O'Neal (non-guaranteed deal) being the salary going back, along with a few of those Suns picks. Simmons is negative value right now, but he only has two years left on his deal, so if he wants a sniff at a new contract, he is going to have to play and perform. So he should be very motivated. And if your the Blazers, you probably don't mind taking the risk, since they are not trying to win (if they are trading Dame). Simmons fills a need up front, and even potentially as a PG, running the offence.

That’s an interesting speculation. I actually think it’s a worse deal than the Miami deal for Portland because Simmons is a negative asset and the Nets pretty much have a similar type of young players as the Heat and I don’t see the Nets overpaying what the Heat would pay from a pick standpoint.

And trades to other teams that we know of so far have the same problem. Nets, Raptors aren’t contenders with Lillard and you potentially get an unhappy Lillard for 4 more years. Sixers you can make an argument depending on what they give up that they won’t be a contender but much closer to what Lillard is looking for.

[ArthurVandelay]

The latest rumor from Spears of a mystery eastern conference team only says Cronin is bush league. He's trying to pressure Miami. He doesn't realize Pat Riley is the guy he's negotiating with. You think Pat Riley hears about a mystery team and picks up the phone saying, "Fine, fine, fine! We'll include Martin and anything else you want!!" Yeah, I don't think so either.

Just get the trade done already ffs.