Should Orlando Magic Secretly Offer Whatever It Takes For Giannis?

[jonbob17]

There is a zero chance in hell that the Magic have any chance of obtaining Giannis except when he is in his late 30's, period. I thought this was a joke thread until I saw serious posters.

There is a real chance Milwaukee won't be able to retain Giannis. Jrue is 33, Middleton looked like he has started to decline early at 31, and Lopez is 35. That team isn't getting better. Giannis wants to win championships.

There aren't a whole lot of teams that can offer valuable young players while also maintaining the talent to win a championship....Believe it or not the Magic are one of them.

In all likelihood Milwaukee will be able to figure out how to retool this team on the fly, but if there is an injury or serious decline, they could lose their standing in the east before they are able to refresh, and if they can't build around Giannis, chances are he will want to go somewhere that can.

[BadMofoPimp]

There is a zero chance in hell that the Magic have any chance of obtaining Giannis except when he is in his late 30's, period. I thought this was a joke thread until I saw serious posters.

There is a real chance Milwaukee won't be able to retain Giannis. Jrue is 33, Middleton looked like he has started to decline early at 31, and Lopez is 35. That team isn't getting better. Giannis wants to win championships.

There aren't a whole lot of teams that can offer valuable young players while also maintaining the talent to win a championship....Believe it or not the Magic are one of them.

In all likelihood Milwaukee will be able to figure out how to retool this team on the fly, but if there is an injury or serious decline, they could lose their standing in the east before they are able to refresh, and if they can't build around Giannis, chances are he will want to go somewhere that can.

Even if the Bucks consider trading Giannis, he won't be going to Orlando. Just some wacky pipe dream. Have fun playing NBA2K!

They wouldn't even trade him for Banchero, Franz and an unprotected first and I have zero doubt he would want to play for a team with so little talent and history of losing. He would only go to a contender. Move on.

I have seen these types of posts for 20 years on RealGM and not a single one of them has ever happened. Heck, not even in all the years of watching the NBA. Magic have nothing the Bucks would want and they are set up to play with Giannis for years. If the Bucks wanted to retool, they could do so while keeping Giannis. Giannis has shown zero inclination of wanting to leave Milwaukee. They are not going to trade their money maker.

[MasterGMer]

There is a zero chance in hell that the Magic have any chance of obtaining Giannis except when he is in his late 30's, period. I thought this was a joke thread until I saw serious posters.

There is a real chance Milwaukee won't be able to retain Giannis. Jrue is 33, Middleton looked like he has started to decline early at 31, and Lopez is 35. That team isn't getting better. Giannis wants to win championships.

There aren't a whole lot of teams that can offer valuable young players while also maintaining the talent to win a championship....Believe it or not the Magic are one of them.

In all likelihood Milwaukee will be able to figure out how to retool this team on the fly, but if there is an injury or serious decline, they could lose their standing in the east before they are able to refresh, and if they can't build around Giannis, chances are he will want to go somewhere that can.

I think Magic can offer the package better than almost anybody to have a deal with Giannis. We retain all our draft picks and young talents plus salary fillers. The question is does he want to come to Orlando. If he does and we can, I hope it is a done deal soon

[T-Cat]

There is a zero chance in hell that the Magic have any chance of obtaining Giannis except when he is in his late 30's, period. I thought this was a joke thread until I saw serious posters.

There is a real chance Milwaukee won't be able to retain Giannis. Jrue is 33, Middleton looked like he has started to decline early at 31, and Lopez is 35. That team isn't getting better. Giannis wants to win championships.

There aren't a whole lot of teams that can offer valuable young players while also maintaining the talent to win a championship....Believe it or not the Magic are one of them.

In all likelihood Milwaukee will be able to figure out how to retool this team on the fly, but if there is an injury or serious decline, they could lose their standing in the east before they are able to refresh, and if they can't build around Giannis, chances are he will want to go somewhere that can.

I think Magic can offer the package better than almost anybody to have a deal with Giannis. We retain all our draft picks and young talents plus salary fillers. The question is does he want to come to Orlando. If he does and we can, I hope it is a done deal soon

Who would you recommend adding in the potential Giannis trade, possibly next off-season?

I would imagine Suggs would be added to the deal, especially if he shows his true potential this upcoming season! Not to mention one of Franz or Paolo as well!

[jonbob17]

There is a zero chance in hell that the Magic have any chance of obtaining Giannis except when he is in his late 30's, period. I thought this was a joke thread until I saw serious posters.

There is a real chance Milwaukee won't be able to retain Giannis. Jrue is 33, Middleton looked like he has started to decline early at 31, and Lopez is 35. That team isn't getting better. Giannis wants to win championships.

There aren't a whole lot of teams that can offer valuable young players while also maintaining the talent to win a championship....Believe it or not the Magic are one of them.

In all likelihood Milwaukee will be able to figure out how to retool this team on the fly, but if there is an injury or serious decline, they could lose their standing in the east before they are able to refresh, and if they can't build around Giannis, chances are he will want to go somewhere that can.

Even if the Bucks consider trading Giannis, he won't be going to Orlando. Just some wacky pipe dream. Have fun playing NBA2K!

They wouldn't even trade him for Banchero, Franz and an unprotected first and I have zero doubt he would want to play for a team with so little talent and history of losing. He would only go to a contender. Move on.

I have seen these types of posts for 20 years on RealGM and not a single one of them has ever happened. Heck, not even in all the years of watching the NBA. Magic have nothing the Bucks would want and they are set up to play with Giannis for years. If the Bucks wanted to retool, they could do so while keeping Giannis. Giannis has shown zero inclination of wanting to leave Milwaukee. They are not going to trade their money maker.

Yes it is unlikely that Giannis will be playing for the Magic soon. BUT...
The reason this is even being discussed is because Giannis said in the last month that he will not sign an extension with Milwaukee until he is comfortable that the team is competing for championships....so there is an inclination and it has to do with being able to win...and Milwaukee's surrounding core is getting old quick, and shown some holes in the playoffs.

And as much as some fans around here don't want to admit it, the Magic have some of the most tradeable pieces in the league with their young players and future draft picks. If Giannis isn't playing on Milwaukee how many games are they winning? I am not sure, but the Magic are winning more, even without Paolo(in this fictional trade)...oh and the Magic will continue to get better....So yes the Magic are in a place where they can trade for or attract free agents, because they have good basketball players, and a ton of space below the tax.

Personally, I don't even want us to accelerate our timeline with a trade for a star, our guys are going to be really good on their own in a couple of years, and think we should exercise patience and see what we need most or what fits the team best.

[Residual-Heat]

If anything we're more likely to trade for Dame than Giannis.

[BadMofoPimp]

There is a zero chance in hell that the Magic have any chance of obtaining Giannis except when he is in his late 30's, period. I thought this was a joke thread until I saw serious posters.

There is a real chance Milwaukee won't be able to retain Giannis. Jrue is 33, Middleton looked like he has started to decline early at 31, and Lopez is 35. That team isn't getting better. Giannis wants to win championships.

There aren't a whole lot of teams that can offer valuable young players while also maintaining the talent to win a championship....Believe it or not the Magic are one of them.

In all likelihood Milwaukee will be able to figure out how to retool this team on the fly, but if there is an injury or serious decline, they could lose their standing in the east before they are able to refresh, and if they can't build around Giannis, chances are he will want to go somewhere that can.

I think Magic can offer the package better than almost anybody to have a deal with Giannis. We retain all our draft picks and young talents plus salary fillers. The question is does he want to come to Orlando. If he does and we can, I hope it is a done deal soon

I think the cost to get Giannis would put him on one of the worst teams in the league. This is besides the fact that the Bucks would never trade him. I cannot believe people actually think this is possible.

I reckon people are bored and it is nice to dream.

[BadMofoPimp]

There is a real chance Milwaukee won't be able to retain Giannis. Jrue is 33, Middleton looked like he has started to decline early at 31, and Lopez is 35. That team isn't getting better. Giannis wants to win championships.

There aren't a whole lot of teams that can offer valuable young players while also maintaining the talent to win a championship....Believe it or not the Magic are one of them.

In all likelihood Milwaukee will be able to figure out how to retool this team on the fly, but if there is an injury or serious decline, they could lose their standing in the east before they are able to refresh, and if they can't build around Giannis, chances are he will want to go somewhere that can.

Even if the Bucks consider trading Giannis, he won't be going to Orlando. Just some wacky pipe dream. Have fun playing NBA2K!

They wouldn't even trade him for Banchero, Franz and an unprotected first and I have zero doubt he would want to play for a team with so little talent and history of losing. He would only go to a contender. Move on.

I have seen these types of posts for 20 years on RealGM and not a single one of them has ever happened. Heck, not even in all the years of watching the NBA. Magic have nothing the Bucks would want and they are set up to play with Giannis for years. If the Bucks wanted to retool, they could do so while keeping Giannis. Giannis has shown zero inclination of wanting to leave Milwaukee. They are not going to trade their money maker.

Yes it is unlikely that Giannis will be playing for the Magic soon. BUT...
The reason this is even being discussed is because Giannis said in the last month that he will not sign an extension with Milwaukee until he is comfortable that the team is competing for championships....so there is an inclination and it has to do with being able to win...and Milwaukee's surrounding core is getting old quick, and shown some holes in the playoffs.

And as much as some fans around here don't want to admit it, the Magic have some of the most tradeable pieces in the league with their young players and future draft picks. If Giannis isn't playing on Milwaukee how many games are they winning? I am not sure, but the Magic are winning more, even without Paolo(in this fictional trade)...oh and the Magic will continue to get better....So yes the Magic are in a place where they can trade for or attract free agents, because they have good basketball players, and a ton of space below the tax.

Personally, I don't even want us to accelerate our timeline with a trade for a star, our guys are going to be really good on their own in a couple of years, and think we should exercise patience and see what we need most or what fits the team best.

The only way Giannis joins the Magic is if he didn't signed to a winning organization which the Magic is not. He could go play anywhere he wants in the end. Orlando is not even close to that place.

[CLosP]

History of superstar trades show players don’t just go to random teams. Orlando is a random team that Giannis will most likely privately say he doesn’t want to come to. He wants to leave for a possibly contending team not go somewhere like Orlando who is not even a playoff team atm.

[AdamTheGreek]

Well Orlando isn’t a random team. We have John and Jeff. Jeff scouted him, John picked him.

He’s not going anywhere this season. It’s going to play out. Middleton is actually healthy this season and that makes all of the difference. Jrue could retire after this season. Brook can’t keep this play up forever.

This is the closest Gianni has been to wanting out of Milwaukee in his career and that’s because of the ownership changes. It’s not been a smooth transition.

Timing could be everything here. If Milwaukee falters again in the playoffs early under Griffin, and this young rising talented Magic team gets into the playoffs, that makes us more appealing.

[pepe1991]

Well Orlando isn’t a random team. We have John and Jeff. Jeff scouted him, John picked him.

He’s not going anywhere this season. It’s going to play out. Middleton is actually healthy this season and that makes all of the difference. Jrue could retire after this season. Brook can’t keep this play up forever.

This is the closest Gianni has been to wanting out of Milwaukee in his career and that’s because of the ownership changes. It’s not been a smooth transition.

Timing could be everything here. If Milwaukee falters again in the playoffs early under Griffin, and this young rising talented Magic team gets into the playoffs, that makes us more appealing.

And after all the drama and tension he'll end up on...drumroll. Lakers

[CLosP]

Just because they drafted him, doesn’t mean he owes them anything or that’s going to be a factor. We are possibly a fringe playoff team currently and if we have to sell the farm to get him, he’ll end up in the same position as he’s already in. Take Luka for example, we could say well we have Coach Moseley but these guys are going to want to go to contenders with legit other pieces to play with, not young guys that have potential.

Any superstar nowadays is going to be able influence where they wanna go, Giannis I don’t see being an exception to that rule.

[Kent]

I'd be wary of Giannis having a Dwight-like career: sizable MVP quality run followed by injury or loss of athletism that causes a dropoff.

I'm not saying it will happen but their similarities give me pause.

I have a really good feeling about Paulo. He doesn't have to be as good as Giannis for the feeling not to pay off.

[BadMofoPimp]

There's your answer.

[Skybox]

Can we lock this for a couple years?

[Raidmagic]

There is a zero chance in hell that the Magic have any chance of obtaining Giannis except when he is in his late 30's, period. I thought this was a joke thread until I saw serious posters.

There is a real chance Milwaukee won't be able to retain Giannis. Jrue is 33, Middleton looked like he has started to decline early at 31, and Lopez is 35. That team isn't getting better. Giannis wants to win championships.

There aren't a whole lot of teams that can offer valuable young players while also maintaining the talent to win a championship....Believe it or not the Magic are one of them.

In all likelihood Milwaukee will be able to figure out how to retool this team on the fly, but if there is an injury or serious decline, they could lose their standing in the east before they are able to refresh, and if they can't build around Giannis, chances are he will want to go somewhere that can.

This post didn't age well.

[jonbob17]

There is a zero chance in hell that the Magic have any chance of obtaining Giannis except when he is in his late 30's, period. I thought this was a joke thread until I saw serious posters.

There is a real chance Milwaukee won't be able to retain Giannis. Jrue is 33, Middleton looked like he has started to decline early at 31, and Lopez is 35. That team isn't getting better. Giannis wants to win championships.

There aren't a whole lot of teams that can offer valuable young players while also maintaining the talent to win a championship....Believe it or not the Magic are one of them.

In all likelihood Milwaukee will be able to figure out how to retool this team on the fly, but if there is an injury or serious decline, they could lose their standing in the east before they are able to refresh, and if they can't build around Giannis, chances are he will want to go somewhere that can.

This post didn't age well.

Really? Milwaukee has now pushed their chips towards the middle. They have zero tradeable draft picks and Lillard is 33 and owed a small country's GDP, Middleton is 32, and Lopez is 35.

This move may (or may not) have made them better, but the Bucks have two guaranteed years of Giannis. To me this is about making the most of those two years.

One of the negatives of moving Holiday for Dame is they lose roster flexibility, Lopez has 2 years, Middleton 3 years, Jrue 2 years...maybe they could have convinced a star Giannis wasnted to play with to come after Jrue's and Lopez combined $60M came off the books...now they will be very limited 4 years of Lillard and with just the 24M coming off and a giant hole at center.

To me this trade makes it more likely Giannis leaves in two years...and since they are all in, they wont want to trade him, could be forced into a sign and trade, where they get litlte back. If age and salary commitments are Milwaukee's problems, neither were helped in this deal.

[SOUL]

Milwaukee won a chip and will continue to contend even if it's short-term.. and if he leaves in 2 years, that's 11/12 years of Giannis (wow time flies) .. basically all you can hope for

[VFX]

Why is this still a thread. Let it die already.

[Last Guardian]

There is a real chance Milwaukee won't be able to retain Giannis. Jrue is 33, Middleton looked like he has started to decline early at 31, and Lopez is 35. That team isn't getting better. Giannis wants to win championships.

There aren't a whole lot of teams that can offer valuable young players while also maintaining the talent to win a championship....Believe it or not the Magic are one of them.

In all likelihood Milwaukee will be able to figure out how to retool this team on the fly, but if there is an injury or serious decline, they could lose their standing in the east before they are able to refresh, and if they can't build around Giannis, chances are he will want to go somewhere that can.

I think Magic can offer the package better than almost anybody to have a deal with Giannis. We retain all our draft picks and young talents plus salary fillers. The question is does he want to come to Orlando. If he does and we can, I hope it is a done deal soon

Who would you recommend adding in the potential Giannis trade, possibly next off-season?

I would imagine Suggs would be added to the deal, especially if he shows his true potential this upcoming season! Not to mention one of Franz or Paolo as well!

If trading for Giannis then you are doing Franz and Paolo easily. And if you're doing that, just trade the rest of the team for vets as well. No reason to have youth or develop anyone at that point.