Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . .

[playa-hater]

Lose-Lose, Baby!

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[ That should be lose and win.. Boston would lose and the lakers would win.

[MeanGeraldGreen]

I can’t shake what Himmelsbach said a couple of months ago, that the Celtics were lining up for a massive trade. He’s got a direct line to the Celtics FO, and very much plays the role of wet blanket.

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[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

I can’t shake what Himmelsbach said a couple of months ago, that the Celtics were lining up for a massive trade. He’s got a direct line to the Celtics FO, and very much plays the role of wet blanket.

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Who can the Celtics legitimately trade at the moment to bring back another Star?
Tatum - Brown - Porzingis aren't going anywhere.
I can't see them trading Horford.

That leaves White - Williams - Brogdon - Pritchard - Walsh - Many Draft Choices who could be moved.
Adam Jones on WEEI mentioned a couple of times today, that Brogdon could be traded.

[Celts17Pride]

Adam Jones on WEEI mentioned a couple of times today, that Brogdon could be traded.

Adam Jones shouldn't say that out loud, Brogdon might hear it and go into a hissy fit.

[MeanGeraldGreen]

I can’t shake what Himmelsbach said a couple of months ago, that the Celtics were lining up for a massive trade. He’s got a direct line to the Celtics FO, and very much plays the role of wet blanket.

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Who can the Celtics legitimately trade at the moment to bring back another Star?
Tatum - Brown - Porzingis aren't going anywhere.
I can't see them trading Horford.

That leaves White - Williams - Brogdon - Pritchard - Walsh - Many Draft Choices who could be moved.
Adam Jones on WEEI mentioned a couple of times today, that Brogdon could be traded.

It’ll be next summer, I’d assume.

There’s a chance that Giannis, Luka, and Embiid could ask out by then. Probably not all three, but one or two, for sure. If that’s the case, everyone but Tatum would be up for grabs.

[djFan71]

Lose-Lose, Baby!

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Gross. Just gross.

[Hal14]

Guys who were a free agent this summer and signed with an overseas team:

Denzel Valentine Sydney Kings
Semi Ojeleye Valencia Basket
Marko Simonovic Crvena Zvezda
Kemba Walker Monaco
Jordan Usher Perth Wildcats
Juancho Hernangomez Panathinaikos
Willy Hernangomez FC Barcelona
Brady Manek Zalgiris
Jabari Parker FC Barcelona
Kelan Martin Karsiyaka
Olek Balcerowski Panathinaikos
Willey Cauley-Stein Pallacanestro Varese
Kyle Guy Panathinaikos
Nikola Mirotic Olimpia Milano
Raul Neto Fenerbahce
Ben Mclemore AEK
PJ Dozier Partizan
Mfiondu Kabengele AEK
Frank Kaminsky Partizan
Tacko Fall Nanjing Monkey Kings
Jean Montero Anadolu Efes
Sterling Brown Alba Berlin
Alize Johnson KCC Egis
Nate Laszewski Brindisi
Nemanja Bjelica Crvena Zvezda
Serge Ibaka Mayern

[Dogen]

Guys who were a free agent this summer and signed with an overseas team:

Denzel Valentine Sydney Kings
Semi Ojeleye Valencia Basket
Marko Simonovic Crvena Zvezda
Kemba Walker Monaco
Jordan Usher Perth Wildcats
Juancho Hernangomez Panathinaikos
Willy Hernangomez FC Barcelona
Brady Manek Zalgiris
Jabari Parker FC Barcelona
Kelan Martin Karsiyaka
Olek Balcerowski Panathinaikos
Willey Cauley-Stein Pallacanestro Varese
Kyle Guy Panathinaikos
Nikola Mirotic Olimpia Milano
Raul Neto Fenerbahce
Ben Mclemore AEK
PJ Dozier Partizan
Mfiondu Kabengele AEK
Frank Kaminsky Partizan
Tacko Fall Nanjing Monkey Kings
Jean Montero Anadolu Efes
Sterling Brown Alba Berlin
Alize Johnson KCC Egis
Nate Laszewski Brindisi
Nemanja Bjelica Crvena Zvezda
Serge Ibaka Mayern

Wow- isn't there an expansion team in there somewhere? Maybe not. This it shows how much talent is already in the NBA, inclusive of US-born and foreign players.

Tacko Fall with the Monkey Kings. Nanjing is going to love him!

Can't blame these guys at all for turning down a minimum contract in the NBA (assuming they were offered), maybe unguaranteed and only for a year, to play in a great overseas city where you get treated well, paid better, and real playing time.

[31to6]

Guys who were a free agent this summer and signed with an overseas team:

Denzel Valentine Sydney Kings
Semi Ojeleye Valencia Basket
Marko Simonovic Crvena Zvezda
Kemba Walker Monaco
Jordan Usher Perth Wildcats
Juancho Hernangomez Panathinaikos
Willy Hernangomez FC Barcelona
Brady Manek Zalgiris
Jabari Parker FC Barcelona
Kelan Martin Karsiyaka
Olek Balcerowski Panathinaikos
Willey Cauley-Stein Pallacanestro Varese
Kyle Guy Panathinaikos
Nikola Mirotic Olimpia Milano
Raul Neto Fenerbahce
Ben Mclemore AEK
PJ Dozier Partizan
Mfiondu Kabengele AEK
Frank Kaminsky Partizan
Tacko Fall Nanjing Monkey Kings
Jean Montero Anadolu Efes
Sterling Brown Alba Berlin
Alize Johnson KCC Egis
Nate Laszewski Brindisi
Nemanja Bjelica Crvena Zvezda
Serge Ibaka Mayern

Wow- isn't there an expansion team in there somewhere? Maybe not. This it shows how much talent is already in the NBA, inclusive of US-born and foreign players.

Tacko Fall with the Monkey Kings. Nanjing is going to love him!

Can't blame these guys at all for turning down a minimum contract in the NBA (assuming they were offered), maybe unguaranteed and only for a year, to play in a great overseas city where you get treated well, paid better, and real playing time.

The 'best' guys there are pretty bad! I'd wager the vast majority of those guys weren't even close to getting offered a vet min deal in the NBA. I mean, sure Olek Balcerowski was a "free agent", but it's not like he's looking at an NBA future and turned it down. Despite multiple posters saying he was better than Luke Kornet for averaging 8 and 4 on our **** summer league team.

[165bows]

Guys who were a free agent this summer and signed with an overseas team:

Denzel Valentine Sydney Kings
Semi Ojeleye Valencia Basket
Marko Simonovic Crvena Zvezda
Kemba Walker Monaco
Jordan Usher Perth Wildcats
Juancho Hernangomez Panathinaikos
Willy Hernangomez FC Barcelona
Brady Manek Zalgiris
Jabari Parker FC Barcelona
Kelan Martin Karsiyaka
Olek Balcerowski Panathinaikos
Willey Cauley-Stein Pallacanestro Varese
Kyle Guy Panathinaikos
Nikola Mirotic Olimpia Milano
Raul Neto Fenerbahce
Ben Mclemore AEK
PJ Dozier Partizan
Mfiondu Kabengele AEK
Frank Kaminsky Partizan
Tacko Fall Nanjing Monkey Kings
Jean Montero Anadolu Efes
Sterling Brown Alba Berlin
Alize Johnson KCC Egis
Nate Laszewski Brindisi
Nemanja Bjelica Crvena Zvezda
Serge Ibaka Mayern

Wow- isn't there an expansion team in there somewhere? Maybe not. This it shows how much talent is already in the NBA, inclusive of US-born and foreign players.

Tacko Fall with the Monkey Kings. Nanjing is going to love him!

Can't blame these guys at all for turning down a minimum contract in the NBA (assuming they were offered), maybe unguaranteed and only for a year, to play in a great overseas city where you get treated well, paid better, and real playing time.

The 'best' guys there are pretty bad! I'd wager the vast majority of those guys weren't even close to getting offered a vet min deal in the NBA. I mean, sure Olek Balcerowski was a "free agent", but it's not like he's looking at an NBA future and turned it down. Despite multiple posters saying he was better than Luke Kornet for averaging 8 and 4 on our **** summer league team.

I thought Willy Hernangomez could have stayed in the NBA. Also pretty sure Bjelica could have stuck around the league last year if he wanted, iirc the reports said he wanted to go back to Europe.

Otherwise pretty much not a good list of NBA guys lol.

[31to6]

I can’t shake what Himmelsbach said a couple of months ago, that the Celtics were lining up for a massive trade. He’s got a direct line to the Celtics FO, and very much plays the role of wet blanket.

Read on Twitter

Who can the Celtics legitimately trade at the moment to bring back another Star?
Tatum - Brown - Porzingis aren't going anywhere.
I can't see them trading Horford.

That leaves White - Williams - Brogdon - Pritchard - Walsh - Many Draft Choices who could be moved.
Adam Jones on WEEI mentioned a couple of times today, that Brogdon could be traded.

It’ll be next summer, I’d assume.

There’s a chance that Giannis, Luka, and Embiid could ask out by then. Probably not all three, but one or two, for sure. If that’s the case, everyone but Tatum would be up for grabs.

I know it's blasphemy to ask it, but if Giannis is on the table, are we SURE Tatum isn't?

Tatum's 2+ years younger, hopefully healthier, and hopefully a Celtic for life or close to it. Giannis is the only guy I think about putting him on the table for. I don't think Denver ever trades Jokic (why would they?), and I don't like Embiid or Luka enough to want to trade even JB+ for them.

But Tatum for Giannis? I personally wouldn't have the balls to do it, but I would think about it. I think Tatum *might* have a better future than Giannis, straight up, mostly regardless of context. But swap them in the 2022 Finals and the Celtics already have banner #18.

Hopefully the as-built Boston Celtics start winning titles this season, so all of this is moot. But with Brogdon's $$ needing to be moved before next July 1, I'd expect our trade threads to stay viable.

Footnote: the $$ don't add up, but trade JB and Kristaps for Giannis any time and every time.

[BK_2020]

Do we have to take all his brothers if we trade for Giannis? I'd still do it but it would seriously suck.

[bisme37]

Hopefully we're stockpiling draft picks for Usman Garuba.

[Hal14]

Guys who were a free agent this summer and signed with an overseas team:

Denzel Valentine Sydney Kings
Semi Ojeleye Valencia Basket
Marko Simonovic Crvena Zvezda
Kemba Walker Monaco
Jordan Usher Perth Wildcats
Juancho Hernangomez Panathinaikos
Willy Hernangomez FC Barcelona
Brady Manek Zalgiris
Jabari Parker FC Barcelona
Kelan Martin Karsiyaka
Olek Balcerowski Panathinaikos
Willey Cauley-Stein Pallacanestro Varese
Kyle Guy Panathinaikos
Nikola Mirotic Olimpia Milano
Raul Neto Fenerbahce
Ben Mclemore AEK
PJ Dozier Partizan
Mfiondu Kabengele AEK
Frank Kaminsky Partizan
Tacko Fall Nanjing Monkey Kings
Jean Montero Anadolu Efes
Sterling Brown Alba Berlin
Alize Johnson KCC Egis
Nate Laszewski Brindisi
Nemanja Bjelica Crvena Zvezda
Serge Ibaka Mayern

Wow- isn't there an expansion team in there somewhere? Maybe not. This it shows how much talent is already in the NBA, inclusive of US-born and foreign players.

Tacko Fall with the Monkey Kings. Nanjing is going to love him!

Can't blame these guys at all for turning down a minimum contract in the NBA (assuming they were offered), maybe unguaranteed and only for a year, to play in a great overseas city where you get treated well, paid better, and real playing time.

The 'best' guys there are pretty bad! I'd wager the vast majority of those guys weren't even close to getting offered a vet min deal in the NBA. I mean, sure Olek Balcerowski was a "free agent", but it's not like he's looking at an NBA future and turned it down. Despite multiple posters saying he was better than Luke Kornet for averaging 8 and 4 on our **** summer league team.

Summer League doesn't really matter that much. Between last season playing in Europe as well as the FIBA competitions where he has represented Poland, he has certainly proven himself as a guy with the potential to play in the NBA.

I'm sure he could have probably gotten a roster spot with us. And there's a few teams where he would have had a chance to get more playing time (Portland, Phoenix, Chicago, maybe New Orleans or Orlando..) but like many of the guys playing overseas, they play over there (not necessarily because they're not good enough to make an NBA roster) but because they'd rather start and get 25 MPG instead of being a 3rd stringer getting only like 12 MPG in the NBA, while making more $ overseas too.

Also, Balcerowski still had another year left on the contract with the European team he played for last season, so his new team had to pay that in order to acquire him. They were willing to pay the buyout fee to get themself a starting center. But an NBA team was probably not gonna pay that buyout fee for a guy on a minimum contract who would be a 3rd stringer..

[Larry_Russell]

Who can the Celtics legitimately trade at the moment to bring back another Star?
Tatum - Brown - Porzingis aren't going anywhere.
I can't see them trading Horford.

That leaves White - Williams - Brogdon - Pritchard - Walsh - Many Draft Choices who could be moved.
Adam Jones on WEEI mentioned a couple of times today, that Brogdon could be traded.

It’ll be next summer, I’d assume.

There’s a chance that Giannis, Luka, and Embiid could ask out by then. Probably not all three, but one or two, for sure. If that’s the case, everyone but Tatum would be up for grabs.

I know it's blasphemy to ask it, but if Giannis is on the table, are we SURE Tatum isn't?

Tatum's 2+ years younger, hopefully healthier, and hopefully a Celtic for life or close to it. Giannis is the only guy I think about putting him on the table for. I don't think Denver ever trades Jokic (why would they?), and I don't like Embiid or Luka enough to want to trade even JB+ for them.

But Tatum for Giannis? I personally wouldn't have the balls to do it, but I would think about it. I think Tatum *might* have a better future than Giannis, straight up, mostly regardless of context. But swap them in the 2022 Finals and the Celtics already have banner #18.

Hopefully the as-built Boston Celtics start winning titles this season, so all of this is moot. But with Brogdon's $$ needing to be moved before next July 1, I'd expect our trade threads to stay viable.

Footnote: the $$ don't add up, but trade JB and Kristaps for Giannis any time and every time.

Yeah, It would be Brown and TImelord for Giannis honestly.

White/Pritchard
?? (Ideally Walsh or Hauser fill this spot)
Tatum
Giannis
Porzingis/Horford

Easy title team.

[Dogen]

White/Pritchard
?? (Ideally Walsh or Hauser fill this spot)
Tatum
Giannis
Porzingis/Horford

Easy title team.

Walsh out there with White, Tatum, Giannis and Porzingis.

Jordan: OK, coach, thanks for putting me in. Who should I cover? What should I do?

Joe: Just run around and have a fukin good time.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

I know a few teams who can outbid the Knicks...

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[Dogen]

Wow- isn't there an expansion team in there somewhere? Maybe not. This it shows how much talent is already in the NBA, inclusive of US-born and foreign players.

Tacko Fall with the Monkey Kings. Nanjing is going to love him!

Can't blame these guys at all for turning down a minimum contract in the NBA (assuming they were offered), maybe unguaranteed and only for a year, to play in a great overseas city where you get treated well, paid better, and real playing time.

The 'best' guys there are pretty bad! I'd wager the vast majority of those guys weren't even close to getting offered a vet min deal in the NBA. I mean, sure Olek Balcerowski was a "free agent", but it's not like he's looking at an NBA future and turned it down. Despite multiple posters saying he was better than Luke Kornet for averaging 8 and 4 on our **** summer league team.

I thought Willy Hernangomez could have stayed in the NBA. Also pretty sure Bjelica could have stuck around the league last year if he wanted, iirc the reports said he wanted to go back to Europe.

Otherwise pretty much not a good list of NBA guys lol.

Yeah, Willy was quite decent just a year or so ago. And Bjelica too, maybe a couple of the others on the list.

I think it's mainly a combination of more players coming over from oversees + the emphasis that teams seems to be focusing on padding rosters with 3-D wings with high 3pt%.

Back to the basket bigs are still out of fashion, too. One would think Ibaka might have gotten a look from a contending team. Apparently guys like him, Noel, Cauley-Stein don't have much value in modern NBA, but can still do well overseas.

[BK_2020]

It’ll be next summer, I’d assume.

There’s a chance that Giannis, Luka, and Embiid could ask out by then. Probably not all three, but one or two, for sure. If that’s the case, everyone but Tatum would be up for grabs.

I know it's blasphemy to ask it, but if Giannis is on the table, are we SURE Tatum isn't?

Tatum's 2+ years younger, hopefully healthier, and hopefully a Celtic for life or close to it. Giannis is the only guy I think about putting him on the table for. I don't think Denver ever trades Jokic (why would they?), and I don't like Embiid or Luka enough to want to trade even JB+ for them.

But Tatum for Giannis? I personally wouldn't have the balls to do it, but I would think about it. I think Tatum *might* have a better future than Giannis, straight up, mostly regardless of context. But swap them in the 2022 Finals and the Celtics already have banner #18.

Hopefully the as-built Boston Celtics start winning titles this season, so all of this is moot. But with Brogdon's $$ needing to be moved before next July 1, I'd expect our trade threads to stay viable.

Footnote: the $$ don't add up, but trade JB and Kristaps for Giannis any time and every time.

Yeah, It would be Brown and TImelord for Giannis honestly.

White/Pritchard
?? (Ideally Walsh or Hauser fill this spot)
Tatum
Giannis
Porzingis/Horford

Easy title team.

I think we have to wait until the next offseason to trade Jaylen, at which point we won't need to add any salary.

[Hal14]

Available free agents who the Celtics have brought in for a workout, or attended a private workout the player had, or there was a rumor we were interested in them:

Austin Rivers
Terence Davis
Blake Griffin
Lamar Stevens
TJ Warren
John Wall
Louis King
Glenn Robinson III