RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24

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RealGM Top 25 Player Poll: Who will be the best of these players in 2023-24?

Poll ended at Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:32 am

Bam Adebayo (MIA)
6
7%
Mikal Bridges (BKN)
1
1%
Jalen Brunson (NYK)
2
2%
Jaylen Brown (BOS)
23
28%
De'Aaron Fox (SAC)
13
16%
Kyrie Irving (DAL)
8
10%
Jaren Jackson Jr. (MEM)
1
1%
Domantas Sabonis (SAC)
19
23%
Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN)
3
4%
Trae Young (ATL)
6
7%
 
Total votes: 82

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RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#1 » by ElectricMayhem » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:32 am

Once again, It is time for Filthadelphia's annual Top 25 Player poll this offseason.

(Filthadelphia, if you want to take over again, go for it. I just wanted to get it finished before preseason. In any case, this will probably be the last year I can do it for a while).

Your favorite offseason debate is back by popular demand!
Thanks to everyone who voted last go around I'm excited to see where the 6th annual edition ends up.

Here are the Rules:
-Vote ONE player per poll. You'll be able to change your vote just like in previous years so you can self-implement rank choice voting.
-The criteria of ranking the players is YOUR OWN. The whole point of bringing this to the GB is to attract the widest amount of votes/perspectives on the game as possible to form a true consensus. Some people value shooting over defense, team success over individual prowess etc. Filthadelphia wanted to bake all that into this poll set no matter how chaotic.
-Each poll a player will win and then be taken out of the field. There will be 25 polls in all.
-There are only 10 possible poll options so I will start with last year's Top 10.
-As each poll commences I ask you to COMMENT IN THE THREAD your vote for who should be added in the next poll. There will be a large list of players yet to be added to the field below that you can look over to make your vote. I will tally up the votes in the comments at the end of each poll and add the winner accordingly. For example, if you want Xavier Tillman added in the next poll just comment "Nominate: Xavier Tillman"
-If a poll is overwhelmingly skewed towards one guy I will try, time willing, to edit it early and move on to the next one.
-If there is a tie in the poll. There will be a run-off poll created with just the tying parties to determine a winner. The losers of the runoff will then be added back into the field of 10 for the next poll.
-Feel free to ask any questions via pm or comment
-Feel Free to comment on your reasoning for a pick and why
There may be days when I am not able to quickly add the next poll. Just be patient!

THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE FOR PARTICIPATING!!!!

Added to Poll: Jalen Brunson (NYK)

RealGM Top 25 Players 2023-24:
1) Nikola Jokic (DEN) - 72%
2) Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) - 61%
3) Luka Doncic (DAL) - 42%
4) Steph Curry (GSW) - 42%
5) Joel Embiid (PHI) - 43%
6) Jayson Tatum (BOS) - 45%
7) Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (OKC) - 37%
8) Kevin Durant (PHX) - 34%
9) LeBron James (LAL) - 31%
10) Jimmy Butler (MIA) - 30%
11) Anthony Davis (LAL) - 34%
12) Devin Booker (PHX) - 43%
13) Kawhi Leonard (LAC) - 39%
14) Damian Lillard (POR) - 47%
15) Anthony Edwards (MIN) - 26%
16) Tyrese Haliburton (IND) - 19%
17) Paul George (LAC) - 23%
18) Donovan Mitchell (CLE) - 27%
19) Ja Morant (MEM) - 22%
20) Jamal Murray (DEN) - 31%
21) Pascal Siakam (TOR) - 19%
22) Zion Williamson (NOP) - 23%

Yet To Be Added: (If someone is not here that you want here comment THAT and I will add them)
Dejounte Murray (ATL)
LaMelo Ball (CHA)
DeMar DeRozan (CHI)
Zach LaVine (CHI)
Darius Garland (CLE)
Evan Mobley (CLE)
Aaron Gordon (DEN)
Cade Cunningham (DET)
Draymond Green (GSW)
Chris Paul (GSW)
Klay Thompson (GSW)
Andrew Wiggins (GSW)
Fred VanVleet (HOU)
Austin Reaves (LAL)
Desmond Bane (MEM)
Jrue Holiday (MIL)
Brook Lopez (MIL)
Khris Middleton (MIL)
Rudy Gobert (MIN)
Brandon Ingram (NOP)
Julius Randle (NYK)
Jalen Williams (OKC)
Paolo Banchero (ORL)
Franz Wagner (ORL)
Jerami Grant (POR)
James Harden (PHI)
Tyrese Maxey (PHI)
Bradley Beal (PHX)
Victor Wembanyama (SAS)
Scottie Barnes (TOR)
Lauri Markkanen (UTA)
Kyle Kuzma (WAS)


Previous Results:
Spoiler:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2228998

RealGM Top 25 Players 2018-19:
1) LeBron James (LAL)-72%
2) Kevin Durant (GSW)-39%
3) Stephen Curry (GSW)-53%
4) Anthony Davis (NOP)-39%
5) James Harden (HOU)-45%
6) Kawhi Leonard (TOR)-50%
7) Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL)-56%
8) Russell Westbrook (OKC)-47%
9) Chris Paul (HOU)-43%
10) Jimmy Butler (MIN)-33%
11) Joel Embiid (PHI)-37%
12) Nikola Jokic (DEN)-32%
13) Victor Oladipo (IND)-31%
14) Rudy Gobert (UTA)-62%-TIEBREAKER w Kyrie Irving (BOS)
15) Damian Lillard (POR)-32%
16) Kyrie Irving (BOS)-37%
17) Draymond Green (GSW)-31%
18) Paul George (OKC)-27%
19) Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN)-23%
20) Kyle Lowry (TOR)-31%
21) Klay Thompson (GSW)-30%
22) Ben Simmons (PHI)-35%
23) John Wall (WAS)-27%
24) Al Horford (BOS)-33%
25) LaMarcus Aldridge (SAS)-30%

RealGM Top 25 Players 2019-20:
1)Kawhi Leonard (LAC)-39%
2)Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL)-42%
3)LeBron James (LAL)-42%
4)Stephen Curry (GSW)-48%
5)James Harden (HOU)-40%
6)Anthony Davis (LAL)-39%
7)Nikola Jokic (DEN)-33%
8)Joel Embiid (PHI)-35%
9)Paul George (LAC)-46%
10)Damian Lillard (POR)-54%
11)Jimmy Butler (MIA)-30%
12)Russell Westbrook (HOU)-26%
13)Rudy Gobert (UTA)-23%
14)Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN)-28%
15)Draymond Green (GSW)-30%
16)Kyrie Irving (BKN)-37%
17)Blake Griffin (DET)-31%
18)Bradley Beal (WAS)-24%
19)Kemba Walker (BOS)-29%
20)Luka Doncic (DAL)-37%
21)Jrue Holiday (NOP)-22%
22)Ben Simmons (PHI)-30%
23)Pascal Siakam (TOR)-41%
24)Kyle Lowry (TOR)-46%
25)Chris Paul (OKC)-32%

RealGM Top 25 Players 2020-21:
1)LeBron James (LAL) - 53%
2)Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) - 47%
3)Luka Doncic (DAL) - 37%
4)Kawhi Leonard (LAC) - 34%
5)Anthony Davis (LAL) - 35%
6)James Harden (HOU) - 39%
7)Steph Curry (GSW) - 33%
8)Nikola Jokic (DEN) - 42%
9)Kevin Durant (BKN) - 46%
10)Damian Lillard (POR) - 38%
11)Jimmy Butler (MIA) - 57%
12)Jayson Tatum (BOS) - 41%
13)Joel Embiid (PHI) - 59%
14)Devin Booker (PHX) - 22%
15)Chris Paul (PHX) - 24%
16)Paul George (LAC) - 21%
17)Bradley Beal (WAS) - 22%
18)Donovan Mitchell (UTA) - 22%
19)Ben Simmons (PHI) - 26%
20)Kyle Lowry (TOR) - 28%
21)Rudy Gobert (UTA) - 26%
22)Bam Adebayo (MIA) - 24%
23)Jamal Murray (DEN) - 29%
24)Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) - 32%
25)Kyrie Irving (BKN) - 33%

RealGM Top 25 Players 2021-22:
1) Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) - 41%
2) Kevin Durant (BKN) - 38%
3) LeBron James (LAL) - 36%
4) Luka Doncic (DAL) - 39%
5) Stephen Curry (GSW) - 42%
6) Nikola Jokic (DEN) - 61%
7) Joel Embiid (PHI) - 32%
8) James Harden (BKN) - 47%
9) Kawhi Leonard (LAC) - 35%
10) Damian Lillard (POR) - 39%
11) Anthony Davis (LAL) - 60%
12) Jayson Tatum (BOS) - 32%
13) Jimmy Butler (MIA) - 34%
14) Paul George (LAC) - 33%
15) Trae Young (ATL) - 30%
16) Rudy Gobert (UTA) - 22%
17) Zion Williamson (NOP) - 27%
18) Chris Paul (PHX) - 26%
19) Kyrie Irving (BKN) - 29%
20) Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) - 24%
21) Devin Booker (PHX) - 28%
22) Bradley Beal (WAS) - 35%
23) Donovan Mitchell (UTA) - 47%
24) Khris Middleton (MIL) - 45%
25. Jrue Holiday (MIL) 27%-

RealGM Top 25 Players 2022-23:
1) Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) - 57%
2) Nikola Jokic (DEN) - 57%
3) Luka Doncic (DAL) - 43%
4) Steph Curry (GSW) - 49%
5) Joel Embiid (PHI) - 37%
6) Kevin Durant (BKN) - 40%
7) LeBron James (LAL) - 44%
8) Kawhi Leonard (LAC) - 46%
9) Jayson Tatum (BOS) - 51%
10) Jimmy Butler (MIA) - 53%
11) Ja Morant (MEM) - 23%
12) Anthony Davis (LAL) - 28%
13) Rudy Gobert (MIN) - 24%
14) Paul George (LAC) - 19% (Tiebreaker: 62%)
15) James Harden (PHI) - 23%
16) Devin Booker (PHX) - 27%
17) Damian Lillard (POR) - 34%
18) Trae Young (ATL) - 25%
19) Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) - 33%
20) Pascal Siakam (TOR) - 40%
21) Jaylen Brown (BOS) - 30%
22) Chris Paul (PHX) - 25%
23) Zion Williamson (NOP) - 27%
24) Bam Adebayo (MIA) - 25%
25. Kyrie Irving (BKN) - 32%
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#2 » by ElectricMayhem » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:33 am

Vote: Domantas Sabonis
Nominate: Jrue Holiday
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#3 » by SA37 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:09 am

Vote Sabonis

Nominate: Middleton
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#4 » by GQ Hot Dog » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:49 am

Vote Sabonis
Nominate Markannen
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#5 » by nikster » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:50 am

Vote Bam
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#6 » by iggymcfrack » Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:15 am

Finally I get to vote for Brunson! I’m all done nominating.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#7 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:18 am

Voted: Bam
Nominate: Harden
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#8 » by Pistol_Pete10 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:13 am

V: Young
N: Markkanen
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#9 » by Sakkreth » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:16 am

Sabonis
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#10 » by GSWFan1994 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:48 am

I've been voting for Fox since #17, come on now. :dontknow:
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#11 » by BobbyPortisEyes » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:05 am

What am I missing with Sabonis? I feel like he's a Julius Randle-esque player who's good at creating easy shots for himself in the regular season but is not versatile enough offensively to ever be great in the playoffs when the game is more physical and defensive schemes are tighter. It's clear that Fox is the best player on the team.

Vote: Bam
Nominate: Garland
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Post#12 » by Crunch 99 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:24 am

Vote Fox
Nominate Markkanen
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#13 » by Saints14 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:32 pm

Vote Sabonis
Nominate Harden
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#14 » by Wargreymon » Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:06 pm

Vote: Jaylen Brown
Nom: Lauri Markkanen
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#15 » by SkyHook » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:23 pm

V: Brown
N: Markannen
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#16 » by nikster » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:53 pm

otterpop_ wrote:What am I missing with Sabonis? I feel like he's a Julius Randle-esque player who's good at creating easy shots for himself in the regular season but is not versatile enough offensively to ever be great in the playoffs when the game is more physical and defensive schemes are tighter. It's clear that Fox is the best player on the team.

Vote: Bam
Nominate: Garland

Yeah I'm in a same boat on Sabonis. The lack of jumpshot really killed the offense in the playoffs and he's not a great defender. Maybe he figures out a way to be effective in future playoffs but Fox was more impactful last year
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#17 » by phanman » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:10 pm

Going with Bam. I think his ceiling and ability to be impactful everywhere on both sides of the floor is just too special to overlook.

I rank him above JJJ and Sabonis so will continue to vote him over them. Brown would be an interesting alternative, but i'd rather have someone with Adebayo's skillset to start a team vs JB's.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#18 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:40 pm

phanman wrote:Going with Bam. I think his ceiling and ability to be impactful everywhere on both sides of the floor is just too special to overlook.

I rank him above JJJ and Sabonis so will continue to vote him over them. Brown would be an interesting alternative, but i'd rather have someone with Adebayo's skillset to start a team vs JB's.


I rather have Brown. Bam is too limited versus a guy like JB in terms of overall skills, and thats why I am voting for JB due to his overall skillset and abilities.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#19 » by rk2023 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:29 pm

Select Kyrie

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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#23 2023-24 

Post#20 » by Jazz Dog » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:47 pm

Voted Brown
Nominate Markanaan

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