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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#21 » by Klomp » Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:56 pm

TimberKat wrote:Depending on where we end up, there will be roster changes next summer - Conley, KA, Milton, Brown, JMcD (maybe), Towns, Gobert, and Naz could all be in the conversation of a Embiid trade :D

This part is fascinating, isn't it....?! And maybe it weighs into why McDaniels hasn't been extended yet. I could see us flip say Gobert and McDaniels for a pretty good player. By extending McDaniels right away, it would have eliminated what limited current trade flexibility we have.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#22 » by shrink » Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:04 pm

I was a bit surprised by the RealGM headline about the potential that 1st Team All NBA players may become available on trade, since historically, these players are so rarely dealt. So I went back and looked

Giannis
Embiid
Doncic
Tatum
Shai

I think the first three could become available. Maybe even Tatum if it got BOS one of the top 2.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#23 » by Klomp » Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:09 pm

shrink wrote:I was a bit surprised by the RealGM headline about the potential that 1st Team All NBA players may become available on trade, since historically, these players are so rarely dealt. So I went back and looked

Giannis
Embiid
Doncic
Tatum
Shai

I think the first three could become available. Maybe even Tatum if it got BOS one of the top 2.

Yeah I think the next year will be very interesting in player movement. It explains why teams aren't emptying assets for Lillard or Harden.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#24 » by Klomp » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:57 am

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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#25 » by minimus » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:14 am

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Coming to NBA Trevor Keels was seen as a player with a high floor due to his physicality, defense, and shooting. It means that on paper he has everything what Thibs wants from his guards. And if Thibs team released Keels it does not sound good. On other hand we have seen Thibs letting guys like Tyus Jones and Bjelica go.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#26 » by KGdaBom » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:27 am

Never heard of him. I found this.

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Trevor Jamaal Keels is an American professional basketball player who last played for the New York Knicks of the National Basketball Association, on a two-way contract with the Westchester Knicks of the NBA G League. He played college basketball for the Duke Blue Devils. Wikipedia
Born: 2003 (age 20 years), Clinton, MD
Height: 6′ 4″
NBA draft: 2022: 2nd round, 42nd overall pick
College: Duke (2021–2022)
High school: Paul VI Catholic; (Chantilly, Virginia)
Listed weight: 221 lb (100 kg)
Position: Shooting guard
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#27 » by shrink » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:12 pm

The RealGM Radio “Northwest Division Breakdown” podcast has two guests that are very high on the Wolves.

The term “sleeping giant” was used.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#28 » by NebWolvesFan » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:28 pm

KGdaBom wrote:Never heard of him. I found this.

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Trevor Jamaal Keels is an American professional basketball player who last played for the New York Knicks of the National Basketball Association, on a two-way contract with the Westchester Knicks of the NBA G League. He played college basketball for the Duke Blue Devils. Wikipedia
Born: 2003 (age 20 years), Clinton, MD
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NBA draft: 2022: 2nd round, 42nd overall pick
College: Duke (2021–2022)
High school: Paul VI Catholic; (Chantilly, Virginia)
Listed weight: 221 lb (100 kg)
Position: Shooting guard



It's interesting because on Jon K's podcast, TC said the team has three guys on two-ways. Well, obviously, that isn't true right now. Maybe Keels is close. I like him way way way more than Nix. Keels is young too (20) and has proven to be a better shooter and defender than Nix. Where as Nix got tons of minutes on a rebuilding team, Keels got benched by Thibs who hates playing young guys. I would love to get him in the program and see if he can develop.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#29 » by Klomp » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:35 pm

shrink wrote:The RealGM Radio “Northwest Division Breakdown” podcast has two guests that are very high on the Wolves.

The term “sleeping giant” was used.

I stumbled on that episode as I was struggling to sleep last night. Yes, I was very pleased to hear that Adam Mares (DNVR) and David Locke (Locked on Sports) are so high on the team. It makes sense though, since Mares has firsthand experience watching Connelly-built rosters and Locke covered Gobert in Utah for so many years.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#30 » by Klomp » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:42 pm

NebWolvesFan wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Never heard of him. I found this.

About
Trevor Jamaal Keels is an American professional basketball player who last played for the New York Knicks of the National Basketball Association, on a two-way contract with the Westchester Knicks of the NBA G League. He played college basketball for the Duke Blue Devils. Wikipedia
Born: 2003 (age 20 years), Clinton, MD
Height: 6′ 4″
NBA draft: 2022: 2nd round, 42nd overall pick
College: Duke (2021–2022)
High school: Paul VI Catholic; (Chantilly, Virginia)
Listed weight: 221 lb (100 kg)
Position: Shooting guard



It's interesting because on Jon K's podcast, TC said the team has three guys on two-ways. Well, obviously, that isn't true right now. Maybe Keels is close. I like him way way way more than Nix. Keels is young too (20) and has proven to be a better shooter and defender than Nix. Where as Nix got tons of minutes on a rebuilding team, Keels got benched by Thibs who hates playing young guys. I would love to get him in the program and see if he can develop.

Don't expect whatever KGdaBom posted above (my guess is fantasy sports site Rotoworld) to be the most accurate and up-to-date information. He was with the Knicks on a two-way, but at one point they had four guys on two-ways this offseason, which is not possible. So Keels could have been let out of his.

Update: He was.

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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#31 » by minimus » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:52 pm

NebWolvesFan wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Never heard of him. I found this.

About
Trevor Jamaal Keels is an American professional basketball player who last played for the New York Knicks of the National Basketball Association, on a two-way contract with the Westchester Knicks of the NBA G League. He played college basketball for the Duke Blue Devils. Wikipedia
Born: 2003 (age 20 years), Clinton, MD
Height: 6′ 4″
NBA draft: 2022: 2nd round, 42nd overall pick
College: Duke (2021–2022)
High school: Paul VI Catholic; (Chantilly, Virginia)
Listed weight: 221 lb (100 kg)
Position: Shooting guard



It's interesting because on Jon K's podcast, TC said the team has three guys on two-ways. Well, obviously, that isn't true right now. Maybe Keels is close. I like him way way way more than Nix. Keels is young too (20) and has proven to be a better shooter and defender than Nix. Where as Nix got tons of minutes on a rebuilding team, Keels got benched by Thibs who hates playing young guys. I would love to get him in the program and see if he can develop.


Having Garza, Keels, Krejci on two-ways will be a big step for our development program.

P.S. Keels is only 19yo?!
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#32 » by Klomp » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:01 pm

minimus wrote:Having Garza, Keels, Krejci on two-ways will be a big step for our development program.

P.S. Keels is only 19yo?!

I'm fairly certain Clark is the third two-way, not Krejci (Krejci is on an Exhibit 10 contract, so expect him to go down to Iowa)

Keels turned 20 on August 26.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#33 » by minimus » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:02 pm

Klomp wrote:
minimus wrote:Having Garza, Keels, Krejci on two-ways will be a big step for our development program.

P.S. Keels is only 19yo?!

I'm fairly certain Clark is the third two-way, not Krejci (Krejci is on an Exhibit 10 contract, so expect him to go down to Iowa)

Keels turned 20 on August 26.


Yeah, my bad... Forgot about Clarke...
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#34 » by NebWolvesFan » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:06 pm

Klomp wrote:
minimus wrote:Having Garza, Keels, Krejci on two-ways will be a big step for our development program.

P.S. Keels is only 19yo?!

I'm fairly certain Clark is the third two-way, not Krejci (Krejci is on an Exhibit 10 contract, so expect him to go down to Iowa)

Keels turned 20 on August 26.


Clark is definitely on a two-way. Wolfson keeps saying the Wolves are talking about moving Luka to an NBA deal for the 15th spot. I wonder if Luka is hesitant to sign a Gupta special. If Towns/Gobert get hurt - very possible - Luka could easily put together a stretch of games where he scores big points. He might think he can get more than a min deal next summer.

If Luka does move to an NBA deal, then Minnesota could sign Keels and let the exhibit-10 guys battle for the final spot. Or TC could wait and see who gets cut and sign someone to the final two-way. That's how Ryan got here last year.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#35 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:29 pm

minimus wrote:
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Coming to NBA Trevor Keels was seen as a player with a high floor due to his physicality, defense, and shooting. It means that on paper he has everything what Thibs wants from his guards. And if Thibs team released Keels it does not sound good. On other hand we have seen Thibs letting guys like Tyus Jones and Bjelica go.


He's interesting. He's strong as hell - he was a football DE before committing to basketball, but he's a subpar run/jump/agility athlete.

Keels didn’t fare well on the combine’s athletic testing. His standing vertical leap (24.5 inches) and shuttle run (3.32 seconds) each ranked third-worst among all prospects.

His 1 year of college he shot 42/31/67.

Was better in the G League last year: 43/36/71.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#36 » by NebWolvesFan » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:39 pm

Got to hope Keels is another Naz Reid. Spend a year getting into shape and hope he blossoms in Minnesota
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#37 » by minimus » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:02 pm

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minimus wrote:
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Coming to NBA Trevor Keels was seen as a player with a high floor due to his physicality, defense, and shooting. It means that on paper he has everything what Thibs wants from his guards. And if Thibs team released Keels it does not sound good. On other hand we have seen Thibs letting guys like Tyus Jones and Bjelica go.


He's interesting. He's strong as hell - he was a football DE before committing to basketball, but he's a subpar run/jump/agility athlete.


For such player it is critical to model his game after right example. I see some Lowry similarities, but Kyle has been able to learn game till every single nuance: rules, footwork, defense, consistency.

NebWolvesFan wrote:Got to hope Keels is another Naz Reid. Spend a year getting into shape and hope he blossoms in Minnesota


He weighed in at 223.8 pounds, with a shocking 13.5 percent body fat, making him the heaviest guard at the combine. Likely as a result of being heavy, he tested poorly athletically, which is probably why he fell into the second round of the draft.


It means that there is a good chance that Keels just like Naz can improve significantly simply by reducing weight and going through full cycle of NBA athletic program. Also Naz has been gradually improving, Keels only has had one year in NBA.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#38 » by KGdaBom » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:38 am

Klomp wrote:
NebWolvesFan wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Never heard of him. I found this.

About
Trevor Jamaal Keels is an American professional basketball player who last played for the New York Knicks of the National Basketball Association, on a two-way contract with the Westchester Knicks of the NBA G League. He played college basketball for the Duke Blue Devils. Wikipedia
Born: 2003 (age 20 years), Clinton, MD
Height: 6′ 4″
NBA draft: 2022: 2nd round, 42nd overall pick
College: Duke (2021–2022)
High school: Paul VI Catholic; (Chantilly, Virginia)
Listed weight: 221 lb (100 kg)
Position: Shooting guard



It's interesting because on Jon K's podcast, TC said the team has three guys on two-ways. Well, obviously, that isn't true right now. Maybe Keels is close. I like him way way way more than Nix. Keels is young too (20) and has proven to be a better shooter and defender than Nix. Where as Nix got tons of minutes on a rebuilding team, Keels got benched by Thibs who hates playing young guys. I would love to get him in the program and see if he can develop.

Don't expect whatever KGdaBom posted above (my guess is fantasy sports site Rotoworld) to be the most accurate and up-to-date information. He was with the Knicks on a two-way, but at one point they had four guys on two-ways this offseason, which is not possible. So Keels could have been let out of his.

Update: He was.

Read on Twitter

I'm pretty sure it wasn't Rotoworld. It just popped up on a google search and was the best I could find without trying much.
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#39 » by cmoss84 » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:51 pm

Random question-this is my first year getting NBA league pass...do they show preseason games as well? When do those start?
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Re: 2023-24 preseason 

Post#40 » by KGdaBom » Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:25 pm

cmoss84 wrote:Random question-this is my first year getting NBA league pass...do they show preseason games as well? When do those start?

Sort of. It includes select preseason games. Here's what I found on a quick google search.

Does NBA League Pass include preseason games? Yes, you can stream select NBA preseason games on NBA League Pass. The streaming service also includes NBA TV, which airs many NBA and WNBA matchups each year.

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