The Brock Purdy Thread

[CrimsonCrew]

Typical homer response to never critique the QB even when there is a lot to fix.

It's pretty rich that Lance's biggest apologist his criticizing Purdy for a slow start. Lance is basically the poster boy for an awful first 20 minutes, possibly followed by a passable 40 minutes.

Yes, Purdy what really bad in that first quarter. And then he looked really good for most of the rest of the game. Are there still things to work on? Of course. He was making his 11th start on a short week against a team that blitzed constantly without very good protection or his best quick hit option in the passing game. Given those things, I would say the end result was quite impressive.

And as said above, Trey Lance is half a decade away, at a minimum, from making those kind of anticipation throws under pressure.

He was really good because he kept throwing swing passes on 3rd & 15 that Deebo or CMAC would end up converting. I swear any QB could make those passes and would have killer stats doing that. I will give him props for the 4th quarter touchdown pass, but that happened after the game was already over anyway and there was absolutely zero pressure on him.

You're straight-up delusional. Purdy repeatedly made good decisions under pressure and delivered some absolute dimes downfield to punish them for blitzing. Your repeated insistence that what he's doing is mundane strongly suggests you just don't get the QB position.

[Big J]

It's pretty rich that Lance's biggest apologist his criticizing Purdy for a slow start. Lance is basically the poster boy for an awful first 20 minutes, possibly followed by a passable 40 minutes.

Yes, Purdy what really bad in that first quarter. And then he looked really good for most of the rest of the game. Are there still things to work on? Of course. He was making his 11th start on a short week against a team that blitzed constantly without very good protection or his best quick hit option in the passing game. Given those things, I would say the end result was quite impressive.

And as said above, Trey Lance is half a decade away, at a minimum, from making those kind of anticipation throws under pressure.

He was really good because he kept throwing swing passes on 3rd & 15 that Deebo or CMAC would end up converting. I swear any QB could make those passes and would have killer stats doing that. I will give him props for the 4th quarter touchdown pass, but that happened after the game was already over anyway and there was absolutely zero pressure on him.

You're straight-up delusional. Purdy repeatedly made good decisions under pressure and delivered some absolute dimes downfield to punish them for blitzing. Your repeated insistence that what he's doing is mundane strongly suggests you just don't get the QB position.

I mean he was fine, but you can’t deny that he got bailed out a ton by his playmakers and all of the penalty flags. Beating the Giants at home without Saquan an isn’t really much of a litmus test anyway.

[arich35]

He was really good because he kept throwing swing passes on 3rd & 15 that Deebo or CMAC would end up converting. I swear any QB could make those passes and would have killer stats doing that. I will give him props for the 4th quarter touchdown pass, but that happened after the game was already over anyway and there was absolutely zero pressure on him.

You're straight-up delusional. Purdy repeatedly made good decisions under pressure and delivered some absolute dimes downfield to punish them for blitzing. Your repeated insistence that what he's doing is mundane strongly suggests you just don't get the QB position.

I mean he was fine, but you can’t deny that he got bailed out a ton by his playmakers and all of the penalty flags. Beating the Giants at home without Saquan an isn’t really much of a litmus test anyway.

Giants blitzed 85% of the plays, most ever in the Nextgen stats era. Typically when you are given that type of pressure all the time the QB is going to look for their hot read which is what you are dinging him on. Did he miss some hot reads? Yep. Did he start off slow with some bad passes? Yep. Did he quickly learn and got better as the game went on? Also yes.
Both TD passes were great, the drop TD pass to CMC was also a great throw. Brock has shown he can adapt and learn in game very quickly. He is a good QB and I believe will only get better.

Nobody here or anyone else I have seen say he is perfect or doesn't have things to work on. You keep making up reasons to downplay what he does. Every game you are going to come up with something

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[Pattersonca65]

The day after response is completely predictable. When the best one can come up with is this, you know the QB had a fairly decent game.

Typical homer response to never critique the QB even when there is a lot to fix.

It's pretty rich that Lance's biggest apologist his criticizing Purdy for a slow start. Lance is basically the poster boy for an awful first 20 minutes, possibly followed by a passable 40 minutes.

Yes, Purdy what really bad in that first quarter. And then he looked really good for most of the rest of the game. Are there still things to work on? Of course. He was making his 11th start on a short week against a team that blitzed constantly without very good protection or his best quick hit option in the passing game. Given those things, I would say the end result was quite impressive.

And as said above, Trey Lance is half a decade away, at a minimum, from making those kind of anticipation throws under pressure.

Are you regretting starting this thread yet? Lol. The lunacy will never end.

[Pattersonca65]

The day after response is completely predictable. When the best one can come up with is this, you know the QB had a fairly decent game.

Typical homer response to never critique the QB even when there is a lot to fix.

It's pretty rich that Lance's biggest apologist his criticizing Purdy for a slow start. Lance is basically the poster boy for an awful first 20 minutes, possibly followed by a passable 40 minutes.

Yes, Purdy what really bad in that first quarter. And then he looked really good for most of the rest of the game. Are there still things to work on? Of course. He was making his 11th start on a short week against a team that blitzed constantly without very good protection or his best quick hit option in the passing game. Given those things, I would say the end result was quite impressive.

And as said above, Trey Lance is half a decade away, at a minimum, from making those kind of anticipation throws under pressure.

Are you regretting starting this thread yet? Lol. The lunacy will never end.

[CrimsonCrew]

He was really good because he kept throwing swing passes on 3rd & 15 that Deebo or CMAC would end up converting. I swear any QB could make those passes and would have killer stats doing that. I will give him props for the 4th quarter touchdown pass, but that happened after the game was already over anyway and there was absolutely zero pressure on him.

You're straight-up delusional. Purdy repeatedly made good decisions under pressure and delivered some absolute dimes downfield to punish them for blitzing. Your repeated insistence that what he's doing is mundane strongly suggests you just don't get the QB position.

I mean he was fine, but you can’t deny that he got bailed out a ton by his playmakers and all of the penalty flags. Beating the Giants at home without Saquan an isn’t really much of a litmus test anyway.

Facing constant blitzes that his OL and backs weren't picking up, he repeatedly got the ball out quickly and accurately. He repeatedly hit impressive deep balls, including a perfect strike to McCaffrey in the endzone that didn't result in a TD. In the final three quarters, he went 20 of 26 for 240 yards and two TDs. That's a darn good night when his protection was bad.

You're right, beating the Giants isn't much of a litmus test. But it sure seems like going 11-0 and averaging over 30 PPG in the first eleven games of his career that didn't end in injury is some sort of litmus test.

[Pattersonca65]

You're straight-up delusional. Purdy repeatedly made good decisions under pressure and delivered some absolute dimes downfield to punish them for blitzing. Your repeated insistence that what he's doing is mundane strongly suggests you just don't get the QB position.

I mean he was fine, but you can’t deny that he got bailed out a ton by his playmakers and all of the penalty flags. Beating the Giants at home without Saquan an isn’t really much of a litmus test anyway.

Facing constant blitzes that his OL and backs weren't picking up, he repeatedly got the ball out quickly and accurately. He repeatedly hit impressive deep balls, including a perfect strike to McCaffrey in the endzone that didn't result in a TD. In the final three quarters, he went 20 of 26 for 240 yards and two TDs. That's a darn good night when his protection was bad.

You're right, beating the Giants isn't much of a litmus test. But it sure seems like going 11-0 and averaging over 30 PPG in the first eleven games of his career that didn't end in injury is some sort of litmus test.

Purdy.is.just a Gordon Minshaw game manager that only wom because of his weapons. Lance would have won by 50

[CrimsonCrew]

And to be clear, I'm not saying this was some amazing performance that secured Purdy's place in the HOF. I'm saying that under difficult circumstances, he showed poise, patience, confidence, and pretty unique vision and creativity to help deliver us a comfortable win. Sure, if you're comparing him to Manning, Brees, or Brady in year 12, he probably doesn't stack up. But if you compare him to other second-year QBs, he's playing pretty remarkably.

[CrimsonCrew]

I mean he was fine, but you can’t deny that he got bailed out a ton by his playmakers and all of the penalty flags. Beating the Giants at home without Saquan an isn’t really much of a litmus test anyway.

Facing constant blitzes that his OL and backs weren't picking up, he repeatedly got the ball out quickly and accurately. He repeatedly hit impressive deep balls, including a perfect strike to McCaffrey in the endzone that didn't result in a TD. In the final three quarters, he went 20 of 26 for 240 yards and two TDs. That's a darn good night when his protection was bad.

You're right, beating the Giants isn't much of a litmus test. But it sure seems like going 11-0 and averaging over 30 PPG in the first eleven games of his career that didn't end in injury is some sort of litmus test.

Purdy.is.just a Gordon Minshaw game manager that only wom because of his weapons. Lance would have won by 50

Lance would have taken eight sacks minimum. Lance would have been completely overwhelmed by the pressure in that game, and the fact that you think otherwise is extremely telling. Lance couldn't handle four-man rushes by the Raiders' third- and fourth-string DL. Maybe the team still would have won, but it would have been in spite of Lance, not because of him.

[Pattersonca65]

Facing constant blitzes that his OL and backs weren't picking up, he repeatedly got the ball out quickly and accurately. He repeatedly hit impressive deep balls, including a perfect strike to McCaffrey in the endzone that didn't result in a TD. In the final three quarters, he went 20 of 26 for 240 yards and two TDs. That's a darn good night when his protection was bad.

You're right, beating the Giants isn't much of a litmus test. But it sure seems like going 11-0 and averaging over 30 PPG in the first eleven games of his career that didn't end in injury is some sort of litmus test.

Purdy.is.just a Gordon Minshaw game manager that only wom because of his weapons. Lance would have won by 50

Lance would have taken eight sacks minimum. Lance would have been completely overwhelmed by the pressure in that game, and the fact that you think otherwise is extremely telling. Lance couldn't handle four-man rushes by the Raiders' third- and fourth-string DL. Maybe the team still would have won, but it would have been in spite of Lance, not because of him.

Lol. You missed my sarcasm

[CrimsonCrew]

Re: Trey Lance, in the three games that he started and played most of, the team scored 10, 23, and 10 points. That's right, in three full games - including games against the 27th and 32nd scoring Ds - Trey Lance failed to score 50 points COMBINED. But he DEFINITELY would have put up 60+ against a team that was consistently getting home in the pass rush in under three seconds. That's definitely a view rooted in reality.

[CrimsonCrew]

Purdy.is.just a Gordon Minshaw game manager that only wom because of his weapons. Lance would have won by 50

Lance would have taken eight sacks minimum. Lance would have been completely overwhelmed by the pressure in that game, and the fact that you think otherwise is extremely telling. Lance couldn't handle four-man rushes by the Raiders' third- and fourth-string DL. Maybe the team still would have won, but it would have been in spite of Lance, not because of him.

Lol. You missed my sarcasm

Hahahahaha. Didn't miss your sarcasm, missed that it was you posting.

[Big J]

Re: Trey Lance, in the three games that he started and played most of, the team scored 10, 23, and 10 points. That's right, in three full games - including games against the 27th and 32nd scoring Ds - Trey Lance failed to score 50 points COMBINED. But he DEFINITELY would have put up 60+ against a team that was consistently getting home in the pass rush in under three seconds. That's definitely a view rooted in reality.

The whole argument for Trey Lance is what he can eventually become, not what he is right now. The guy played 1 season of college ball and a handful of NFL quarters and we expect him to be a finished product.

[Big J]

And to be clear, I'm not saying this was some amazing performance that secured Purdy's place in the HOF. I'm saying that under difficult circumstances, he showed poise, patience, confidence, and pretty unique vision and creativity to help deliver us a comfortable win. Sure, if you're comparing him to Manning, Brees, or Brady in year 12, he probably doesn't stack up. But if you compare him to other second-year QBs, he's playing pretty remarkably.

That's because most other second-year QB's don't have the luxury of playing in Kyles system with the best playmakers in the league around them. Imagine how he would look throwing swing passes to Carolina's receiving corps.

[Pattersonca65]

Re: Trey Lance, in the three games that he started and played most of, the team scored 10, 23, and 10 points. That's right, in three full games - including games against the 27th and 32nd scoring Ds - Trey Lance failed to score 50 points COMBINED. But he DEFINITELY would have put up 60+ against a team that was consistently getting home in the pass rush in under three seconds. That's definitely a view rooted in reality.

The whole argument for Trey Lance is what he can eventually become, not what he is right now. The guy played 1 season of college ball and a handful of NFL quarters and we expect him to be a finished product.

Shanahan saw enough of Trey Lance to know he wasn't going to make it. Third string. Couldn't even beat out Darnold.

[Pattersonca65]

And to be clear, I'm not saying this was some amazing performance that secured Purdy's place in the HOF. I'm saying that under difficult circumstances, he showed poise, patience, confidence, and pretty unique vision and creativity to help deliver us a comfortable win. Sure, if you're comparing him to Manning, Brees, or Brady in year 12, he probably doesn't stack up. But if you compare him to other second-year QBs, he's playing pretty remarkably.

That's because most other second-year QB's don't have the luxury of playing in Kyles system with the best playmakers in the league around them. Imagine how he would look throwing swing passes to Carolina's receiving corps.

alot of first year qbs would have been buried by that rush. Lance can't even throw basic passes. He would have been buried in the dirt

[Pattersonca65]

The NFL has watched Lance play at the NFL level

The NFL also watched Randy Moss play and valued him at a 4th round pick.

That had nothing to do with his ability to perform in the league. But you're right. The league could be wrong short Lance. Same with Purdy. We shall see what bears out. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with what Purdy has shown to date.

Pretty good analysis of Lance

https://youtu.be/R1Gqw_rTC7Y?si=Hi9y4dxVIhL-ifIY

[zman1]

The day after response is completely predictable. When the best one can come up with is this, you know the QB had a fairly decent game.

Typical homer response to never critique the QB even when there is a lot to fix.

Typical hater response to always/relentlessly/annoyingly critique the QB even when he makes good decisions and good plays. It's fair to critique any player when they make a bad play. It is completely biased when you ignore/forget to acknowledge the times said player makes a good play.

100%. This BJ guy will be here every year the niners don't win the SB saying "see, I told you Purdy can't it done. " if they do win it he will say it was only be because the rest of the team carried him.

Let's look back in 5 or 10 years and compare Purdy vs Lance then.

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[CrimsonCrew]

The NFL also watched Randy Moss play and valued him at a 4th round pick.

That had nothing to do with his ability to perform in the league. But you're right. The league could be wrong short Lance. Same with Purdy. We shall see what bears out. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with what Purdy has shown to date.

Pretty good analysis of Lance

https://youtu.be/R1Gqw_rTC7Y?si=Hi9y4dxVIhL-ifIY

Yeah, that basically sums it up. Lance never really developed in terms of his awareness, vision, recognition, etc. Maybe he would have. Kid is supposed to be a film junkie, but there's a big difference between seeing something on the All-22, and recognizing it from the pocket.

I don't know if they have developed a way to give a QB that view in film review. I know Stanford was working on VR as it related to a QB in the pocket a while back, and I seem to recall the Niners were using some of it, but no idea what's happened with it. Maybe Lance just needed more time playing from the pocket. But he was really, really bad when he needed to be really, really good this preseason.

[zman1]

The NFL also watched Randy Moss play and valued him at a 4th round pick.

That had nothing to do with his ability to perform in the league. But you're right. The league could be wrong short Lance. Same with Purdy. We shall see what bears out. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with what Purdy has shown to date.

Pretty good analysis of Lance

https://youtu.be/R1Gqw_rTC7Y?si=Hi9y4dxVIhL-ifIY

Very illuminating video, thanks for posting. Looks like Lance was having trouble seeing very easy and obvious things. What a horrendous draft pick.

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