Will Brogdon still be with the Celtics after the trade deadline?

[snowman]

As long as there are no major or season ending injuries.

[playa-hater]

Yes for the simple reason being that Boston will not get better value in return. Boston traded Smart for a center. Trading away another PG who shoots great and won 6th man OTY doesn't make sense. Although I do like the idea of Tatum playing some point.

[Celts17Pride]

No

[Parliament10]

No.
I don't even want him on the Team, now.


Petition: Bring back Marcus Smart!!!

[shackles10]

Yes. We'll be first in the league and favorites to win the title. They won't want to mess that up for whatever poo poo platter will be available in February.

[Hal14]

Kind of a silly question, considering the season hasn't even started yet (heck, training camp hasn't even started yet) and the trading deadline is 5 months away.

My answer now will probably be very difference than my answer in February.

All we know for sure is what said just the other day - that Brogdon is just as likely to get traded as anyone else on the team - meaning there's just as likely a chance that Rob, Al, or D-White gets traded as Brogdon..

[bisme37]

I'm pro-Brogdon. I've legitimately spent a good deal of time this summer trying to figure out why fans decided they hate him lol. It's like I completely missed whatever the problem is.

He was the best 6th man in the league last year. His knees held up well. He sucked as the playoffs went on but his elbow was jacked up and the whole team sucked in that Heat series. The C's almost traded him for KP but clearly the point of that wasn't to dump Brogdon since they were cool trading Smart instead. Everything we've heard about him since then is media speculation.

Dude is a really good player.

[Celts17Pride]

I'm pro-Brogdon. I've legitimately spent a good deal of time this summer trying to figure out why fans decided they hate him lol. It's like I completely missed whatever the problem is.

He was the best 6th man in the league last year. His knees held up well. He sucked as the playoffs went on but his elbow was jacked up and the whole team sucked in that Heat series. The C's almost traded him for KP but clearly the point of that wasn't to dump Brogdon since they were cool trading Smart instead. Everything we've heard about him since then is media speculation.

Dude is a really good player.

Brogdon plays zero defense. Hawks, Sixers and Heat searched for ways to switch and attack Brogdon all playoffs long last year. When Brogdon was hitting shots (which he didn't do for most of the playoffs except the 2nd series) he was totally unless.

Brogdon then has the nerve to do an interview after the playoffs criticizing the Celtics defense. Brogdon is a primma donna and is going to cause issues all season long. Trade him now if you can find a suitable trade or the Celtics will regret it.

[bisme37]

I'm pro-Brogdon. I've legitimately spent a good deal of time this summer trying to figure out why fans decided they hate him lol. It's like I completely missed whatever the problem is.

He was the best 6th man in the league last year. His knees held up well. He sucked as the playoffs went on but his elbow was jacked up and the whole team sucked in that Heat series. The C's almost traded him for KP but clearly the point of that wasn't to dump Brogdon since they were cool trading Smart instead. Everything we've heard about him since then is media speculation.

Dude is a really good player.

Brogdon plays zero defense. Hawks, Sixers and Heat searched for ways to switch and attack Brogdon all playoffs long last year. When Brogdon was hitting shots (which he didn't do for most of the playoffs except the 2nd series) he was totally unless.

Brogdon then has the nerve to do an interview after the playoffs criticizing the Celtics defense. Brogdon is a primma donna and is going to cause issues all season long. Trade him now if you can find a suitable trade or the Celtics will regret it.

I'm sure there are examples of defensive lapses but I feel that's all an exaggeration. His defense has been well above average through his entire career per both stats and eye test.

I dunno, I don't usually hang out in game threads or twitter during games but I know there's a thing that happens where a couple people will notice a bad play and comment on it, and then it goes to the forefront of everyone's mind and it's all people can see.

And I just don't see the prima donna thing at all personally.

But I appreciate the response since it at least helps me understand where folks are coming from.

[snowman]

I really hope all this crap is not coming from Brogdon's camp. I'm sure Brad is on top of this though. Brogdon is a professional, I don't think he will be a malcontent. At least I hope not. I think he is great as a 2nd PG, running the second team.

[Jammer]

If there is a lingering issue it could very well be how they handle Brogdan's elbow. Surgery (sooner than later) or not.

Guy's Brogdan's age usually take a wait and see approach, even if surgery is inevitable. There is a natural resistance.

The Celtics may have some medical staff who could have pushed for a more drastic corrective action than rest and therapy.

This is where having your own doctor, who is World Class in your injury area, makes sense.

I once broke my wrist. The FIRST doctor who took an X-Ray said bone fills in in about 6 weeks.

The hand doctor who set my wrist (18 hours after the injury but over 5,000 surgeries to his credit) said, when I asked him how long will it take to be as strong as it was, say to fall to the floor and catch myself with one hand (the injured hand). His response was that it takes 18 months to 2 years for the bone density to get to the level where it had been. Two completely different views. My hand healed as good as new but I used a true specialist.

[GoCeltics123]

If there is a lingering issue it could very well be how they handle Brogdan's elbow. Surgery (sooner than later) or not.

Guy's Brogdan's age usually take a wait and see approach, even if surgery is inevitable. There is a natural resistance.

The Celtics may have some medical staff who could have pushed for a more drastic corrective action than rest and therapy.

This is where having your own doctor, who is World Class in your injury area, makes sense.

I once broke my wrist. The FIRST doctor who took an X-Ray said bone fills in in about 6 weeks.

The hand doctor who set my wrist (18 hours after the injury but over 5,000 surgeries to his credit) said, when I asked him how long will it take to be as strong as it was, say to fall to the floor and catch myself with one hand (the injured hand). His response was that it takes 18 months to 2 years for the bone density to get to the level where it had been. Two completely different views. My hand healed as good as new but I used a true specialist.

Yeah some have theorized that the Celtics wanted him to get surgery and Malcolm didn't do it, and maybe that's why the Clippers deal died in the first place. Maybe they wanted him to get surgery too.

[Hal14]

I really hope all this crap is not coming from Brogdon's camp. I'm sure Brad is on top of this though. Brogdon is a professional, I don't think he will be a malcontent. At least I hope not. I think he is great as a 2nd PG, running the second team.

I don't think Brogdon even has a camp. It's usually only star players - guys like Kyrie, LeBron, KD, Dame, Harden, JB who might leak stuff to the media to try and get what they want.

Or it might be role players, but role players who are starved for attention like Pat Beverley, Austin Rivers, Dwight Howard. Or a guy like Gallo posting tons of stuff on social media during his rehab, then going to the media after he's traded and saying how motivated he is to play against Boston..

Then you have Malcolm. Not a star player. He's a role player - a role player who is very soft spoken, quiet guy, keeps to himself, doesn't seek the spotlight. I don't even know if he has any social media accounts.

I'm pretty sure the media is just fabricating a story so they can get some clicks/likes/views during the slowest time of year for basketball coverage.

Or perhaps Malcom has some unhappiness with the team - but I doubt his camp is leaking anything..

[Hal14]

If there is a lingering issue it could very well be how they handle Brogdan's elbow. Surgery (sooner than later) or not.

Guy's Brogdan's age usually take a wait and see approach, even if surgery is inevitable. There is a natural resistance.

The Celtics may have some medical staff who could have pushed for a more drastic corrective action than rest and therapy.

This is where having your own doctor, who is World Class in your injury area, makes sense.

I once broke my wrist. The FIRST doctor who took an X-Ray said bone fills in in about 6 weeks.

The hand doctor who set my wrist (18 hours after the injury but over 5,000 surgeries to his credit) said, when I asked him how long will it take to be as strong as it was, say to fall to the floor and catch myself with one hand (the injured hand). His response was that it takes 18 months to 2 years for the bone density to get to the level where it had been. Two completely different views. My hand healed as good as new but I used a true specialist.

Yeah some have theorized that the Celtics wanted him to get surgery and Malcolm didn't do it, and maybe that's why the Clippers deal died in the first place. Maybe they wanted him to get surgery too.

Instead of theorizing and guessing about what maybe happened, why not listen to Brad?

Read on Twitter

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Seems like there has been clear and consistent communication between Brogdon and the team's medical staff. It didn't seem severe enough for surgery, it seemed like something that could heal with just rehab...when Brad said this (late June so a month or 2 after the injury happened) the elbow was already making some good progress, without surgery.

But surgery was an option, if that's the route Malcolm wanted to go.

Brad also says that he fully expects Malcolm to be ready for the start of the season.

That's what Brad says here..and we haven't really heard anything of any substance since then - that I'm aware of.

[Celts17Pride]

So if Brad Stevens is looking to move Brogdon then he is going to come out in the media and say “Yes, we are looking to move Malcolm Brogdon before the start of the season and out by the way we have no idea if he will be healthy at the start of camp”.



Stevens is going to say “We are not interested in trading Malcolm Brogdon and we expect Malcolm to be healthy by the start of training camp and have a great season “.

NBA 101

[ConstableGeneva]

I respect Brogdon's silence amidst all this.

If he's indeed pissed, he's not using the media to make a play out of Boston. Which would lower his trade value. If he's indeed injured, he's mum about it too.

Let everyone speculate. If he gets traded then he gets traded. If he doesn't get traded, hope he shows up and plays like a professional that he is. I know he's not a robot, but whatever beef he has with the FO shouldn't affect his oncourt performance. Too much outside noise will just get in the way of both parties getting what they want.

[Celts17Pride]

I respect Brogdon's silence amidst all this.

If he's indeed pissed, he's not using the media to make a play out of Boston. Which would lower his trade value. If he's indeed injured, he's mum about it too.

Let everyone speculate. If he gets traded then he gets traded. If he doesn't get traded, hope he shows up and plays like a professional that he is. I know he's not a robot, but whatever beef he has with the FO shouldn't affect his oncourt performance. Too much outside noise will just get in the way of both parties getting what they want.

Brogdon noise has been out there all summer. Brogdon could put an end to the noise with one simple interview. He hasn’t.

[ConstableGeneva]

I respect Brogdon's silence amidst all this.

If he's indeed pissed, he's not using the media to make a play out of Boston. Which would lower his trade value. If he's indeed injured, he's mum about it too.

Let everyone speculate. If he gets traded then he gets traded. If he doesn't get traded, hope he shows up and plays like a professional that he is. I know he's not a robot, but whatever beef he has with the FO shouldn't affect his oncourt performance. Too much outside noise will just get in the way of both parties getting what they want.

Brogdon noise has been out there all summer. Brogdon could put an end to the noise with one simple interview. He hasn’t.

Read your previous post. You can't believe anything that comes out of their mouths anyway. Applies to both FO and players. There's just no point to it. Media will do their thing no matter what.

[GoGreen]

Probably, yea. I'd like to see him gone as well, though. Love him when he's healthy, but even in limited minutes he couldn't stay on the court. Not worth it.

[Bad-Thoma]

Unless we somehow suck I'd say definitely. Count me among those who don't understand why people turned on him.