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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#261 » by Big J » Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:59 pm

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Typical homer response to never critique the QB even when there is a lot to fix.

Typical hater response to always/relentlessly/annoyingly critique the QB even when he makes good decisions and good plays. It's fair to critique any player when they make a bad play. It is completely biased when you ignore/forget to acknowledge the times said player makes a good play.
100%. This BJ guy will be here every year the niners don't win the SB saying "see, I told you Purdy can't it done. " if they do win it he will say it was only be because the rest of the team carried him.

Let's look back in 5 or 10 years and compare Purdy vs Lance then.

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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#262 » by Big J » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:02 pm

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That had nothing to do with his ability to perform in the league. But you're right. The league could be wrong short Lance. Same with Purdy. We shall see what bears out. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with what Purdy has shown to date.


Pretty good analysis of Lance

https://youtu.be/R1Gqw_rTC7Y?si=Hi9y4dxVIhL-ifIY


Yeah, that basically sums it up. Lance never really developed in terms of his awareness, vision, recognition, etc. Maybe he would have. Kid is supposed to be a film junkie, but there's a big difference between seeing something on the All-22, and recognizing it from the pocket.

I don't know if they have developed a way to give a QB that view in film review. I know Stanford was working on VR as it related to a QB in the pocket a while back, and I seem to recall the Niners were using some of it, but no idea what's happened with it. Maybe Lance just needed more time playing from the pocket. But he was really, really bad when he needed to be really, really good this preseason.


He needed more regular season reps.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#263 » by Pattersonca65 » Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:51 pm

Big J wrote:
zman1 wrote:
Samurai wrote:Typical hater response to always/relentlessly/annoyingly critique the QB even when he makes good decisions and good plays. It's fair to critique any player when they make a bad play. It is completely biased when you ignore/forget to acknowledge the times said player makes a good play.
100%. This BJ guy will be here every year the niners don't win the SB saying "see, I told you Purdy can't it done. " if they do win it he will say it was only be because the rest of the team carried him.

Let's look back in 5 or 10 years and compare Purdy vs Lance then.

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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#264 » by Pattersonca65 » Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:52 pm

Big J wrote:
zman1 wrote:
Samurai wrote:Typical hater response to always/relentlessly/annoyingly critique the QB even when he makes good decisions and good plays. It's fair to critique any player when they make a bad play. It is completely biased when you ignore/forget to acknowledge the times said player makes a good play.
100%. This BJ guy will be here every year the niners don't win the SB saying "see, I told you Purdy can't it done. " if they do win it he will say it was only be because the rest of the team carried him.

Let's look back in 5 or 10 years and compare Purdy vs Lance then.

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Pretty good analysis of Lance

https://youtu.be/R1Gqw_rTC7Y?si=Hi9y4dxVIhL-ifIY


Yeah, that basically sums it up. Lance never really developed in terms of his awareness, vision, recognition, etc. Maybe he would have. Kid is supposed to be a film junkie, but there's a big difference between seeing something on the All-22, and recognizing it from the pocket.

I don't know if they have developed a way to give a QB that view in film review. I know Stanford was working on VR as it related to a QB in the pocket a while back, and I seem to recall the Niners were using some of it, but no idea what's happened with it. Maybe Lance just needed more time playing from the pocket. But he was really, really bad when he needed to be really, really good this preseason.


He needed more regular season reps.


He couldn't show it in practice. More likely Lance can't do it at the NFL level. He can t even read remedial plays
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#265 » by Pattersonca65 » Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:52 pm

Big J wrote:
zman1 wrote:
Samurai wrote:Typical hater response to always/relentlessly/annoyingly critique the QB even when he makes good decisions and good plays. It's fair to critique any player when they make a bad play. It is completely biased when you ignore/forget to acknowledge the times said player makes a good play.
100%. This BJ guy will be here every year the niners don't win the SB saying "see, I told you Purdy can't it done. " if they do win it he will say it was only be because the rest of the team carried him.

Let's look back in 5 or 10 years and compare Purdy vs Lance then.

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Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Pretty good analysis of Lance

https://youtu.be/R1Gqw_rTC7Y?si=Hi9y4dxVIhL-ifIY


Yeah, that basically sums it up. Lance never really developed in terms of his awareness, vision, recognition, etc. Maybe he would have. Kid is supposed to be a film junkie, but there's a big difference between seeing something on the All-22, and recognizing it from the pocket.

I don't know if they have developed a way to give a QB that view in film review. I know Stanford was working on VR as it related to a QB in the pocket a while back, and I seem to recall the Niners were using some of it, but no idea what's happened with it. Maybe Lance just needed more time playing from the pocket. But he was really, really bad when he needed to be really, really good this preseason.


He needed more regular season reps.


He couldn't show it in practice. More likely Lance can't do it at the NFL level. He can t even read remedial plays
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#266 » by Big J » Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:59 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
zman1 wrote:100%. This BJ guy will be here every year the niners don't win the SB saying "see, I told you Purdy can't it done. " if they do win it he will say it was only be because the rest of the team carried him.

Let's look back in 5 or 10 years and compare Purdy vs Lance then.

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Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Yeah, that basically sums it up. Lance never really developed in terms of his awareness, vision, recognition, etc. Maybe he would have. Kid is supposed to be a film junkie, but there's a big difference between seeing something on the All-22, and recognizing it from the pocket.

I don't know if they have developed a way to give a QB that view in film review. I know Stanford was working on VR as it related to a QB in the pocket a while back, and I seem to recall the Niners were using some of it, but no idea what's happened with it. Maybe Lance just needed more time playing from the pocket. But he was really, really bad when he needed to be really, really good this preseason.


He needed more regular season reps.


He couldn't show it in practice. More likely Lance can't do it at the NFL level. He can t even read remedial plays


Practice... the same thing that Purdy threw pick after pick in.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#267 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:02 am

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Already getting your excuses ready I see.


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Big J wrote:
He needed more regular season reps.


He couldn't show it in practice. More likely Lance can't do it at the NFL level. He can t even read remedial plays


Practice... the same thing that Purdy threw pick after pick in.


Picks don't matter in practice. Your boy Lance should have stayed in school. He isn't ready for the NFL and probably never will be
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#268 » by Big J » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:51 am

Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
No. Just understands football unlike you

He couldn't show it in practice. More likely Lance can't do it at the NFL level. He can t even read remedial plays


Practice... the same thing that Purdy threw pick after pick in.


Picks don't matter in practice. Your boy Lance should have stayed in school. He isn't ready for the NFL and probably never will be


If picks don't matter in practice then nothing does.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#269 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Sep 24, 2023 1:54 am

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Practice... the same thing that Purdy threw pick after pick in.


Picks don't matter in practice. Your boy Lance should have stayed in school. He isn't ready for the NFL and probably never will be


If picks don't matter in practice then nothing does.


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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#270 » by Samurai » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:09 am

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Practice... the same thing that Purdy threw pick after pick in.


Picks don't matter in practice. Your boy Lance should have stayed in school. He isn't ready for the NFL and probably never will be


If picks don't matter in practice then nothing does.

Context is important. Do you understand that Purdy was asked to take more risks in those practices to help the defense get ready? He was told to NOT play the part of a game manager in practice but to play more of a gunslinger role so that the defense could prepare for that type of QB in games. Picks will happen when you are doing that in practice but the coaching staff understood that he wouldn't be taking those risks in a real game. This was reported on before as the DB's stated that this helped them prepare and mentioned in previous threads, but the tone of your comment gives the impression that you may not even be aware of that.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#271 » by Big J » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:19 am

Samurai wrote:
Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Picks don't matter in practice. Your boy Lance should have stayed in school. He isn't ready for the NFL and probably never will be


If picks don't matter in practice then nothing does.

Context is important. Do you understand that Purdy was asked to take more risks in those practices to help the defense get ready? He was told to NOT play the part of a game manager in practice but to play more of a gunslinger role so that the defense could prepare for that type of QB in games. Picks will happen when you are doing that in practice but the coaching staff understood that he wouldn't be taking those risks in a real game. This was reported on before as the DB's stated that this helped them prepare and mentioned in previous threads, but the tone of your comment gives the impression that you may not even be aware of that.


Were the other QBs on the roster asked to take more risks also? Sounds like an excuse tbh.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#272 » by Samurai » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:33 am

Big J wrote:
Samurai wrote:
Big J wrote:
If picks don't matter in practice then nothing does.

Context is important. Do you understand that Purdy was asked to take more risks in those practices to help the defense get ready? He was told to NOT play the part of a game manager in practice but to play more of a gunslinger role so that the defense could prepare for that type of QB in games. Picks will happen when you are doing that in practice but the coaching staff understood that he wouldn't be taking those risks in a real game. This was reported on before as the DB's stated that this helped them prepare and mentioned in previous threads, but the tone of your comment gives the impression that you may not even be aware of that.


Were the other QBs on the roster asked to take more risks also? Sounds like an excuse tbh.

The DB's that were quoted in the interview didn't mention any of the other QB's but you'd have to ask them. But the statements from the DB's were in the context of discussing how Purdy's role in those practices greatly helped them prepare for games and not in the context of 'why is Purdy throwing picks in practice.' If the interview was asking why Purdy is throwing picks, it sounds like an excuse. But you have to look at the context of the interview which was about how others on the team help the defense prepare. Again, context is important and you seem to be missing that.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#273 » by Harry Palmer » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:31 pm

Can we stop this back and forth over Lance ****? Big J, you’re not addressing anyone’s points, you keep coming back to the same ‘upside’ point. You’re not changing anyone’s mind. Everyone else, we don’t need to **** on Lance and be conclusive about what remains objectively inconclusive. We’re not moving Big J’s needle. People keep repeating the same points over and over again, let’s reserve that for the Lance thread and keep this one about Brock. Fair enough? Because this **** is killing good discussion.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#274 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:43 pm

Big J wrote:
Samurai wrote:
Big J wrote:
If picks don't matter in practice then nothing does.

Context is important. Do you understand that Purdy was asked to take more risks in those practices to help the defense get ready? He was told to NOT play the part of a game manager in practice but to play more of a gunslinger role so that the defense could prepare for that type of QB in games. Picks will happen when you are doing that in practice but the coaching staff understood that he wouldn't be taking those risks in a real game. This was reported on before as the DB's stated that this helped them prepare and mentioned in previous threads, but the tone of your comment gives the impression that you may not even be aware of that.


Were the other QBs on the roster asked to take more risks also? Sounds like an excuse tbh.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#275 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:46 pm

Big J wrote:
Samurai wrote:
Big J wrote:
If picks don't matter in practice then nothing does.

Context is important. Do you understand that Purdy was asked to take more risks in those practices to help the defense get ready? He was told to NOT play the part of a game manager in practice but to play more of a gunslinger role so that the defense could prepare for that type of QB in games. Picks will happen when you are doing that in practice but the coaching staff understood that he wouldn't be taking those risks in a real game. This was reported on before as the DB's stated that this helped them prepare and mentioned in previous threads, but the tone of your comment gives the impression that you may not even be aware of that.


Were the other QBs on the roster asked to take more risks also? Sounds like an excuse tbh.


The same false narrative for the 20th time
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#276 » by Big J » Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:16 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Samurai wrote:Context is important. Do you understand that Purdy was asked to take more risks in those practices to help the defense get ready? He was told to NOT play the part of a game manager in practice but to play more of a gunslinger role so that the defense could prepare for that type of QB in games. Picks will happen when you are doing that in practice but the coaching staff understood that he wouldn't be taking those risks in a real game. This was reported on before as the DB's stated that this helped them prepare and mentioned in previous threads, but the tone of your comment gives the impression that you may not even be aware of that.


Were the other QBs on the roster asked to take more risks also? Sounds like an excuse tbh.


The same false narrative for the 20th time


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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#277 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:16 pm

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Were the other QBs on the roster asked to take more risks also? Sounds like an excuse tbh.


The same false narrative for the 20th time


Not responding to this as we've been asked by the mods not to talk about this. You seem to have a hard time following instructions. Try to keep up.

Not sure what you are talking about. You are going on about the throwing picks in oractice nonsense again
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#278 » by Big J » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:08 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
The same false narrative for the 20th time


Not responding to this as we've been asked by the mods not to talk about this. You seem to have a hard time following instructions. Try to keep up.

Not sure what you are talking about. You are going on about the throwing picks in oractice nonsense again


Read Harry’s post. Jesus man, so I have to spell everything out for you?
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#279 » by arich35 » Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:46 am

I hope everyone watched Jimmy's performance against the Steelers tonight. Happy feet, awful WTF throws, hospital balls, can't handle pressure. It is crazy to say but Purdy is better and more advanced even at his age. Happy with who we have leading this team at QB
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#280 » by zman1 » Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:29 pm

arich35 wrote:I hope everyone watched Jimmy's performance against the Steelers tonight. Happy feet, awful WTF throws, hospital balls, can't handle pressure. It is crazy to say but Purdy is better and more advanced even at his age. Happy with who we have leading this team at QB
And it struck how much more often Purdy hits guys right where they want it, in the hands and in stride.

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