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Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3

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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#221 » by phanman » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:40 pm

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Saying jovic is an asset like saying Flynn is an asset.
The only valuable thing in that package are the picks.

Nah Jovic is a pretty awesome prospect to get excited for. At only 20yo, he was instrumental in Serbia's run to the Silver Medal in the FIBA's this year with Jokic sitting out. He's in a different world that Malachi :lol:

Martin on that contract he has currently is a juicy asset for a win-now team. He would be coveted by nearly every playoff contender. Honestly, the combination of Jacquez, Jovic and Martin is better than all our realistic non-OG pieces going to Portland.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#222 » by Vampirate » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:41 pm

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The NBA changes pretty fast as you can see.

If the Raptors got Dame, chances are it's not the last move in the next year or 2.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#223 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:41 pm

phanman wrote:
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Saying jovic is an asset like saying Flynn is an asset.
The only valuable thing in that package are the picks.

Nah Jovic is a pretty awesome prospect to get excited for. At only 20yo, he was instrumental in Serbia's run to the Silver Medal in the FIBA's this year with Jokic sitting out. He's in a different world that Malachi :lol:

Martin on that contract he has currently is a juicy asset for a win-now team. He would be coveted by nearly every playoff contender. Honestly, the combination of Jacquez, Jovic and Martin is better than all our realistic non-OG pieces going to Portland.


I wouldn't trade Dick for those young guys listed.

Martin isn't even a young guy. He's turning 28.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#224 » by Mak » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:42 pm

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Has Dame played with another all star in his prime ? Never mind all nba player?

Lamarcus Aldridge


No, that was not in Dames prime.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#225 » by phanman » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:47 pm

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AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Saying jovic is an asset like saying Flynn is an asset.
The only valuable thing in that package are the picks.

Nah Jovic is a pretty awesome prospect to get excited for. At only 20yo, he was instrumental in Serbia's run to the Silver Medal in the FIBA's this year with Jokic sitting out. He's in a different world that Malachi :lol:

Martin on that contract he has currently is a juicy asset for a win-now team. He would be coveted by nearly every playoff contender. Honestly, the combination of Jacquez, Jovic and Martin is better than all our realistic non-OG pieces going to Portland.


I wouldn't trade Dick for those young guys listed.

Martin isn't even a young guy. He's turning 28.

I'm high on Jovic so I would disagree but I never said a 1:1 trade. I just said the combination of Miami's trio I would rank high than the Raptors trio built around Dick.

Yes and I said for a win-now team for Caleb Martin. He is about to enter his prime and is on a bargain contract for 6.8m and 7.1m the following season. He struggled in the Finals, but that playoff run and especially ECF was amazing for a role player. I'd argue that he could even fetch a FRP to the right team either right away or at the deadline.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#226 » by Ducksplatt » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:47 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:DAMN.....the way Bobby breaks this down -- I THINK BOSTON WILL GET DAME THX TO PHX.



POR: Ayton + bunch of picks
PHX: Brogdon + RWIII
BOS: Dame

BOS vs PHX Finals.

Now how the hell do Masai & Bobby go pretend to OG that he's a part of the vision for the team's future :lol:


A little off topic but if you watch the video, at the 10:35 mark it switches over to the YouTube poster recording himself doing homework or something (he is drawing a pig for some weird reason). For all of you old heads out there, it reminds me of when I used to tape events over old VHS movies.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#227 » by Zeno » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:47 pm

I was kind of lukewarm on the deal until I heard Steven A types say it wasn't a good idea. Now I'm starting to think everything would magically click and we'd be finals bound. But I don't think we are offering OG, Dick, Precious and picks so I don't think this trade is likely happening. I think we are in for a bargain if Portland is bitter enough and Miami is trying to cheap out offering less than their best offer.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#229 » by pingpongrac » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:48 pm

NBJ13 wrote:take pascal and scottie off the table, the raps don't have anything to offer that's much better than what Miami could, so what am I missing?


Young vets: OG > Herro
Rookies: Gradey > Jaquez
Other young pieces with upside: Achiuwa / Koloko > Jovic
Salary filler: GTJ / Boucher / OPJ / Thad > Lowry / Robinson / Martin
Draft picks: 6 TOR 1sts + 5 TOR 2nds > 6 MIA 1sts + 1 MIA 2nd

Pretty much every way you look at it, Toronto has the more appealing assets lol. The only thing you could potentially argue is Miami's future draft picks may become more valuable seeing as Miami's timeline would only be 2-3 years before Butler/Dame start to age out whereas Toronto would likely still have Siakam and Scottie (plus whatever isn't traded) after Dame ages out.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#230 » by sidsid » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 pm

Basketball_Jones wrote:Lol loved that Stephen A segment. The usual “Oh man he should go to LA or New York!”

Dame said he doesn’t want to go to a super team. He’d also have to be convinced Siakam/Scottie/Yak is good enough.


Convincing Dame to stay is an important part of this transaction, and why OG isn't a piece you want thrown into the trade. Because just last year, we have proof that Dame very much wanted to play with OG.

It's also fielding the best possible team by a lot, but all basketball related takes on this lead to putting Trent in the trade anyway.

Greenlighting paying tax for 2 years is what an FO is looking to do when trading for guys in their mid thirties, too.
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Post#231 » by MessiahUjiri » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:50 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
phanman wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Saying jovic is an asset like saying Flynn is an asset.
The only valuable thing in that package are the picks.

Nah Jovic is a pretty awesome prospect to get excited for. At only 20yo, he was instrumental in Serbia's run to the Silver Medal in the FIBA's this year with Jokic sitting out. He's in a different world that Malachi :lol:

Martin on that contract he has currently is a juicy asset for a win-now team. He would be coveted by nearly every playoff contender. Honestly, the combination of Jacquez, Jovic and Martin is better than all our realistic non-OG pieces going to Portland.


I wouldn't trade Dick for those young guys listed.

Martin isn't even a young guy. He's turning 28.



It’s about getting *assets*

Caleb Martin is definitely an asset, and he’s shown he can play ~30MPG in the playoffs. He can be flipped to a playoff contender, easily.


But I agree that those aren’t blue chip assets. Gradey Dick in theory should be more appealing to Portland, given the size and timeline.

Thinking of where the markets at, here’s what I would offer:

OG Anunoby, Gradey Dick, ‘26 1st, ‘27 swap, Boucher, Thad


Portland can flip Nurkic, Boucher, Nas little to Phoenix for Ayton.


Their net haul would be: OG, Ayton, Dick, 1st, 1st swap



I really don’t want to trade the ‘28 1st, because we may need it in case of another trade. The offer above is likely better than everything else that’s being offered elsewhere.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#232 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:50 pm

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It's so transparent the hate for Canada & lame media ploy (ie/ yet suggesting one of NY or LA :roll: worthy, just come out & say you only care about ratings, period. Stop pretending like you have a credible opinion SAS)...

Yeah he won't make sense with Siakam & Barnes BUT yet he will work with mini-Brunson who needs the ball & RJ Brick-itt.

Then suggesting Austin Reeves is "unbelievable" asset lol smdh so Herro is worth nothing to them but Hillbilly Herro (I'm jk but they're both basically scorers who can get hot) is suddenly worth it because he got the attention from playing in LaLa Land. The only consistency with his opinion is the level of idiocy.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#233 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:51 pm

phanman wrote:
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phanman wrote:Nah Jovic is a pretty awesome prospect to get excited for. At only 20yo, he was instrumental in Serbia's run to the Silver Medal in the FIBA's this year with Jokic sitting out. He's in a different world that Malachi :lol:

Martin on that contract he has currently is a juicy asset for a win-now team. He would be coveted by nearly every playoff contender. Honestly, the combination of Jacquez, Jovic and Martin is better than all our realistic non-OG pieces going to Portland.


I wouldn't trade Dick for those young guys listed.

Martin isn't even a young guy. He's turning 28.

I'm high on Jovic so I would disagree but I never said a 1:1 trade. I just said the combination of Miami's trio I would rank high than the Raptors trio built around Dick.

Yes and I said for a win-now team for Caleb Martin. He is about to enter his prime and is on a bargain contract for 6.8m and 7.1m the following season. He struggled in the Finals, but that playoff run and especially ECF was amazing for a role player. I'd argue that he could even fetch a FRP to the right team either right away or at the deadline.


I'm not as high on Jovic, but I agree, Martin is a good piece for a contender.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#234 » by Vampirate » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:57 pm

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It's so transparent the hate for Canada & lame media ploy (ie/ yet suggesting one of NY or LA :roll: worthy, just come out & say you only care about ratings, period. Stop pretending like you have a credible opinion SAS)...

Yeah he won't make sense with Siakam & Barnes BUT yet he will work with mini-Brunson who needs the ball & RJ Brick-itt.

Then suggesting Austin Reeves is "unbelievable" asset lol smdh so Herro is worth nothing to them but Hillbilly Herro (I'm jk but they're both basically scorers who can get hot) is suddenly worth it because he got the attention from playing in LaLa Land. The only consistency with his opinion is the level of idiocy.


Not really hate

It's just that ESPN can't really profit from a Canadian team.

It's just money driven imo.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#235 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:59 pm

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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#236 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:02 pm

pingpongrac wrote:
NBJ13 wrote:take pascal and scottie off the table, the raps don't have anything to offer that's much better than what Miami could, so what am I missing?


Young vets: OG > Herro
Rookies: Gradey > Jaquez
Other young pieces with upside: Achiuwa / Koloko > Jovic
Salary filler: GTJ / Boucher / OPJ / Thad > Lowry / Robinson / Martin
Draft picks: 6 TOR 1sts + 5 TOR 2nds > 6 MIA 1sts + 1 MIA 2nd

Pretty much every way you look at it, Toronto has the more appealing assets lol. The only thing you could potentially argue is Miami's future draft picks may become more valuable seeing as Miami's timeline would only be 2-3 years before Butler/Dame start to age out whereas Toronto would likely still have Siakam and Scottie (plus whatever isn't traded) after Dame ages out.

Funniest part is if this goes through and Thad is a part of the deal everyone might have to walk back their hate of that deal since it would work out EXACTLY how Masai/Bobby intended from the **** minute it was made :lol:
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#237 » by suntzuballin » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:05 pm

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The NBA changes pretty fast as you can see.

If the Raptors got Dame, chances are it's not the last move in the next year or 2.


Oh yes of course Stephen A fondness of a team that outside states acquiring the best 2nd best pg in league and the number one closer in the game today .Wouldn't expect anything less.
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#238 » by Brinbe » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:07 pm

SAS is a moronic hot take machine with zero credibility. No one should be taking any of his opinions on anything seriously
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Re: Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3 

Post#239 » by mtcan » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:08 pm

suntzuballin wrote:
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The NBA changes pretty fast as you can see.

If the Raptors got Dame, chances are it's not the last move in the next year or 2.


Oh yes of course Stephen A fondness of a team that outside states acquiring the best 2nd best pg in league and the number one closer in the game today .Wouldn't expect anything less.

It's trash comments like from SAS that make me want the Raptors to get Lillard even more...just to stick a thumb in their eyes.

This is exactly why I stopped watching these dumbasses talking **** on TV. SAS and Shannon Sharpe don't actually watch basketball...or they only watch 3 teams and pretend to know about everyone else.
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