Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 11th Heaven

[Dogen]

Zero chance we get Lillard with this weak ass package

In this scenario, why wouldn’t Phoenix just deal for Dame if all Portland wants is Ayton and scrubs

They don't have salary to match and any more 1sts.

And we also don't know what other packages are offered. We've seen the market suddenly dry up and great players go at a discount. A lot depends on how Riley plays it.

Boston would be the one ponying up the picks. I've grown quite fond of Walsh already, so would like to keep him in the pipeline since the Celtics are mortgaging the future for next 2+ years of glory.

Dame/White/Brown/Tatum/Porzingis
Rivers/Svi/Stevens/Brissett/Horford
Banton/Steward/Walsh/(Funk?)/Queta

That starting 5 is ridiculous.

[Darthlukey]

They don't have salary to match and any more 1sts.

Or 2nds. They really better win it all over the next 2 seasons or they are cooked

In theory, I guess they could deal Beal to a 3rd team for 1sts and prospects to send to Portland for Dame.

Are they allowed to deal Beal in such a package so soon after trading for him? And surely no team lets the Suns profit from Beal given how little they paid for him?

[JRoy]

Trade proposal on ESPN by Bobby Marks

Boston gets:
Lillard

Phoenix gets:
Brogdon
Rob Williams

Portland gets:
Ayton
Kornet
Hauser
Walsh

Season to taste with picks.

Zero chance we get Lillard with this weak ass package

POR politely declines.

No counter offer.

[Darthlukey]

Trade proposal on ESPN by Bobby Marks

Boston gets:
Lillard

Phoenix gets:
Brogdon
Rob Williams

Portland gets:
Ayton
Kornet
Hauser
Walsh

Season to taste with picks.

Zero chance we get Lillard with this weak ass package

POR politely declines.

No counter offer.

That is pretty bad unless for some crazy reason they like ayton

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Could hurt the Celts...

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Could be that they are moving on from Lillard.

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If Grange is saying it then Miami's out

[31to6]

I still think we're likely to dump Pritchard for a 2nd rounder or two -- if not before the season starts, then by the trade deadline?

Just can't imagine that the team looks at his $5M QO for next season and is like 'yeah, we're going to pay what it takes to keep him here.' EVEN IF this is Malcolm's last season in green.

Convince me otherwise? I mean he's spunky and he's Fast PP, but IMO next year they might have Yam Madar or JD Davison or Ish Smith on the vet min in that roster spot instead and I'd be

We can make a bet for bragging rights - PP gets moved for seconds vs they extend PP before the season starts

Let's make the deadline for either the trade deadline, and it is on. I don't want to see PP get extended! Do you hear me, interwebs!

Standing wagers:
Celtics will trade PP for one or more 2nds rather than extend him -- lock of the week vs. 165bows
Trevion Williams will never be an NBA rotation player -- early lead vs. Shak but will wait several seasons before claiming victory
The Celtics would carry 15 guys last season -- mostly L but partially W vs. Parl and djfan

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[Larry_Russell]

I still think we're likely to dump Pritchard for a 2nd rounder or two -- if not before the season starts, then by the trade deadline?

Just can't imagine that the team looks at his $5M QO for next season and is like 'yeah, we're going to pay what it takes to keep him here.' EVEN IF this is Malcolm's last season in green.

Convince me otherwise? I mean he's spunky and he's Fast PP, but IMO next year they might have Yam Madar or JD Davison or Ish Smith on the vet min in that roster spot instead and I'd be

We can make a bet for bragging rights - PP gets moved for seconds vs they extend PP before the season starts

Let's make the deadline for either the trade deadline, and it is on. I don't want to see PP get extended! Do you hear me, interwebs!

Standing wagers:
Celtics will trade PP for one or more 2nds rather than extend him -- lock of the week vs. 165bows
Trevion Williams will never be an NBA rotation player -- early lead vs. Shak but will wait several seasons before claiming victory
The Celtics would carry 15 guys last season -- mostly L but partially W vs. Parl and djfan

I am not a big fan of undersized players, never have been excluding someone who is ELITE at something

however, trading Pritchard would leave essentially nothing for backup guards (outside Brogdon)

White/Brogdon/???
Brown/?????/Svi
Tatum/Walsh/Hauser
Porzingas/Stevens/Brissett
Timelord/Horford/Kornet

If we brought back a backup SG in the trade for Pritchard then maybe it makes sense? I think Stevens and Brissett will combine to make a reasonable backup PF and Walsh and Hauser will combine to make a reasonable backup SF.

But backup SG is weeeeeaaaaakkkkk

Maybe Warriors would be dumb and trade Moody for Pritchard?

Or Maybe team looks to Run Stevens or Walsh at backup SG?

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We can make a bet for bragging rights - PP gets moved for seconds vs they extend PP before the season starts

Let's make the deadline for either the trade deadline, and it is on. I don't want to see PP get extended! Do you hear me, interwebs!

Standing wagers:
Celtics will trade PP for one or more 2nds rather than extend him -- lock of the week vs. 165bows
Trevion Williams will never be an NBA rotation player -- early lead vs. Shak but will wait several seasons before claiming victory
The Celtics would carry 15 guys last season -- mostly L but partially W vs. Parl and djfan

I am not a big fan of undersized players, never have been excluding someone who is ELITE at something

however, trading Pritchard would leave essentially nothing for backup guards (outside Brogdon)

White/Brogdon/???
Brown/?????/Svi
Tatum/Walsh/Hauser
Porzingas/Stevens/Brissett
Timelord/Horford/Kornet

If we brought back a backup SG in the trade for Pritchard then maybe it makes sense? I think Stevens and Brissett will combine to make a reasonable backup PF and Walsh and Hauser will combine to make a reasonable backup SF.

But backup SG is weeeeeaaaaakkkkk

You don't really need a backup at every position. We're not going to go 10 deep anyways. And even if we did, we likely wouldn't play a lineup of 5 bench guys in the game at the same time - unless it was garbage time. We'd likely keep either Tatum or Brown in the game with the bench unit, in which case they could be 1 of the wings - with someone like Hauser on the other wing.

Regular rotation will be 8 or 9 guys. You got your 5 starters, then the first 2 off the bench will obviously be Brogdon and whichever big (rob or Al) doesn't start. After that, Hauser is the 8th man and if we need to go to a 9th guy, you could have Walsh, Brissett, Stevens and Svi battle for those mins. Maybe Kornet gets some mins if we're down 1 or 2 of our bigs that game.

Also, you're forgetting about Banton. He would slide in to that 3rd string PG spot..

With that being said, we're trying to win a title here. I doubt we would just dump Pritchard (a decent player who can shoot, play scrappy defense and was our 8th man when we went to NBA finals) for 1 or 2 2nd round picks.

[31to6]

Let's make the deadline for either the trade deadline, and it is on. I don't want to see PP get extended! Do you hear me, interwebs!

Standing wagers:
Celtics will trade PP for one or more 2nds rather than extend him -- lock of the week vs. 165bows
Trevion Williams will never be an NBA rotation player -- early lead vs. Shak but will wait several seasons before claiming victory
The Celtics would carry 15 guys last season -- mostly L but partially W vs. Parl and djfan

I am not a big fan of undersized players, never have been excluding someone who is ELITE at something

however, trading Pritchard would leave essentially nothing for backup guards (outside Brogdon)

White/Brogdon/???
Brown/?????/Svi
Tatum/Walsh/Hauser
Porzingas/Stevens/Brissett
Timelord/Horford/Kornet

If we brought back a backup SG in the trade for Pritchard then maybe it makes sense? I think Stevens and Brissett will combine to make a reasonable backup PF and Walsh and Hauser will combine to make a reasonable backup SF.

But backup SG is weeeeeaaaaakkkkk

You don't really need a backup at every position. We're not going to go 10 deep anyways. And even if we did, we likely wouldn't play a lineup of 5 bench guys in the game at the same time - unless it was garbage time. We'd likely keep either Tatum or Brown in the game with the bench unit, in which case they could be 1 of the wings - with someone like Hauser on the other wing.

Regular rotation will be 8 or 9 guys. You got your 5 starters, then the first 2 off the bench will obviously be Brogdon and whichever big (rob or Al) doesn't start. After that, Hauser is the 8th man and if we need to go to a 9th guy, you could have Walsh, Brissett, Stevens and Svi battle for those mins. Maybe Kornet gets some mins if we're down 1 or 2 of our bigs that game.

Also, you're forgetting about Banton. He would slide in to that 3rd string PG spot..

With that being said, we're trying to win a title here. I doubt we would just dump Pritchard (a decent player who can shoot, play scrappy defense and was our 8th man when we went to NBA finals) for 1 or 2 2nd round picks.

My point is entirely that Pritchard is very likely going to cost too much going forward. Or -- if he's not worth more than the vet min -- that any # of guys could take his place, and Brad Stevens might as well consider getting a minor asset for him if you can.

There will be a reckoning in terms of guard minutes if/when the Celtics move on from Brogdon prior to next July 1, but I'd be surprised if Pritchard at $5M+ was part of that picture.

You may be right that next summer is the time to worry about that, rather than rock any boat with this 'all-in-right-now' season.

FWIW I like Banton's potential, and I think Walsh looks like a SG until he (if he) bulks up, and I like JD, Yam, and even Juhann as guard prospects who could come over and do a lot of what Pritchard does -- ie, mostly sit.

[BK_2020]

Let's make the deadline for either the trade deadline, and it is on. I don't want to see PP get extended! Do you hear me, interwebs!

Standing wagers:
Celtics will trade PP for one or more 2nds rather than extend him -- lock of the week vs. 165bows
Trevion Williams will never be an NBA rotation player -- early lead vs. Shak but will wait several seasons before claiming victory
The Celtics would carry 15 guys last season -- mostly L but partially W vs. Parl and djfan

I am not a big fan of undersized players, never have been excluding someone who is ELITE at something

however, trading Pritchard would leave essentially nothing for backup guards (outside Brogdon)

White/Brogdon/???
Brown/?????/Svi
Tatum/Walsh/Hauser
Porzingas/Stevens/Brissett
Timelord/Horford/Kornet

If we brought back a backup SG in the trade for Pritchard then maybe it makes sense? I think Stevens and Brissett will combine to make a reasonable backup PF and Walsh and Hauser will combine to make a reasonable backup SF.

But backup SG is weeeeeaaaaakkkkk

You don't really need a backup at every position. We're not going to go 10 deep anyways. And even if we did, we likely wouldn't play a lineup of 5 bench guys in the game at the same time - unless it was garbage time. We'd likely keep either Tatum or Brown in the game with the bench unit, in which case they could be 1 of the wings - with someone like Hauser on the other wing.

Regular rotation will be 8 or 9 guys. You got your 5 starters, then the first 2 off the bench will obviously be Brogdon and whichever big (rob or Al) doesn't start. After that, Hauser is the 8th man and if we need to go to a 9th guy, you could have Walsh, Brissett, Stevens and Svi battle for those mins. Maybe Kornet gets some mins if we're down 1 or 2 of our bigs that game.

Also, you're forgetting about Banton. He would slide in to that 3rd string PG spot..

With that being said, we're trying to win a title here. I doubt we would just dump Pritchard (a decent player who can shoot, play scrappy defense and was our 8th man when we went to NBA finals) for 1 or 2 2nd round picks.

Pritchard was -4.7 on/off in 2021-22 season, good for the 27th percentile in the NBA. That's Austin Rivers territory. We could dump Pritchard, pull a name out of a hat of vet min free agents, and end up with superior production.

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