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[MrDollarBills]

Yeah, count me in as not being a fan of JJK 236

It's kind of an assassination of Gojo's character tbh. Also felt like I missed a chapter in there, it's really oddly written

This whole arc has been kind of a disappointment for me. I dunno, you can really tell Gege just wants the series to be over and had no idea how to handle Gojo.

The Shinjuku Showdown Arc was a great battle, but honestly, the ending was jarring and I'm curious as to why Gege chose to execute it that way. I also feel like with this, he has written himself into a corner.

Spoiler:

Like seriously, you expect me to believe that Yuta and Yuji can beat this guy? On top of Kenjaku?

It will be hard to suspend my disbelief.

I can accept what happened, but the way Chapter 235 ends and then suddenly we see Gojo in the train station/purgatory in 236.....i feel like he tried to make it so that Sukuna's attack hit him so fast it killed him instantly, but it just didn't flow right. And because of that, there's a lot of cope happening from fans that Gojo will still come back, but if you look closely, it looks like Sukuna smashed Gojo's skull in on the next to last page of the chapter. It's over.

In terms of Gojo's character, I'm not sure. Gojo not showing much concern for his students in the face of his death...i kinda think that's just how he is. He's always hinted subtly that he would leave things to Yuji, Megumi, and Yuta. I don't think he's worried because he has faith that they'll figure it out, just like he was relaxed when Kenjaku trapped him during The Shibuya Incident.

But the Sukuna wanking that he was doing...that kinda sucked. Like it's cool that he and Sukuna respect each other at the end, but meh.

Gojo was a fun character. His morality was fairly gray, he was an awful teacher, and his life was a series of epic failures that ended in a horrific loss, but he still tried to save Yuta, Megumi and Yuji. I liked him more than i realized.

[DOT]

Yeah, count me in as not being a fan of JJK 236

It's kind of an assassination of Gojo's character tbh. Also felt like I missed a chapter in there, it's really oddly written

This whole arc has been kind of a disappointment for me. I dunno, you can really tell Gege just wants the series to be over and had no idea how to handle Gojo.

The Shinjuku Showdown Arc was a great battle, but honestly, the ending was jarring and I'm curious as to why Gege chose to execute it that way. I also feel like with this, he has written himself into a corner.

Spoiler:

Like seriously, you expect me to believe that Yuta and Yuji can beat this guy? On top of Kenjaku?

It will be hard to suspend my disbelief.

I can accept what happened, but the way Chapter 235 ends and then suddenly we see Gojo in the train station/purgatory in 236.....i feel like he tried to make it so that Sukuna's attack hit him so fast it killed him instantly, but it just didn't flow right. And because of that, there's a lot of cope happening from fans that Gojo will still come back, but if you look closely, it looks like Sukuna smashed Gojo's skull in on the next to last page of the chapter. It's over.

In terms of Gojo's character, I'm not sure. Gojo not showing much concern for his students in the face of his death...i kinda think that's just how he is. He's always hinted subtly that he would leave things to Yuji, Megumi, and Yuta. I don't think he's worried because he has faith that they'll figure it out, just like he was relaxed when Kenjaku trapped him during The Shibuya Incident.

But the Sukuna wanking that he was doing...that kinda sucked. Like it's cool that he and Sukuna respect each other at the end, but meh.

Gojo was a fun character. His morality was fairly gray, he was an awful teacher, and his life was a series of epic failures that ended in a horrific loss, but he still tried to save Yuta, Megumi and Yuji. I liked him more than i realized.

Spoiler:

I feel like if it was clear that he was thinking he had no regrets cause he was confident in his students, that'd be one thing. Like imagine if Geto asks him why he doesn't have any regrets if his kids are gonna die and the chapter just ends with him going "Nah, they will win" in a parallel to him saying he would win. That'd be cool, but the fact it's kind of explicitly said he doesn't care about anyone, he just wants to fight, I never really got that vibe from him

At the very least, the whole "Sukuna's so strong, he wasn't even trying" feels like a total retcon, dude was struggling and barely won lol

And you're right, it's that typical anime bullsh*t where they hype up the big bad too much and it's not really believable the protagonist will win, so it feels like an asspull when they do. Like, Itadori isn't that strong, and allegedly Sukuna was barely even trying, so how is he supposed to win?

It's just hard to suspend disbelief over that. Plus you still have Kenjaku dicking around. Odds are, he beats Sukuna because something something master plan and then Itadori power of friendships his way to victory, a la Bleach

It just feels like you can tell Gege is done with it and wants to move on.

[MrDollarBills]

Yeah, count me in as not being a fan of JJK 236

It's kind of an assassination of Gojo's character tbh. Also felt like I missed a chapter in there, it's really oddly written

This whole arc has been kind of a disappointment for me. I dunno, you can really tell Gege just wants the series to be over and had no idea how to handle Gojo.

The Shinjuku Showdown Arc was a great battle, but honestly, the ending was jarring and I'm curious as to why Gege chose to execute it that way. I also feel like with this, he has written himself into a corner.

Spoiler:

Like seriously, you expect me to believe that Yuta and Yuji can beat this guy? On top of Kenjaku?

It will be hard to suspend my disbelief.

I can accept what happened, but the way Chapter 235 ends and then suddenly we see Gojo in the train station/purgatory in 236.....i feel like he tried to make it so that Sukuna's attack hit him so fast it killed him instantly, but it just didn't flow right. And because of that, there's a lot of cope happening from fans that Gojo will still come back, but if you look closely, it looks like Sukuna smashed Gojo's skull in on the next to last page of the chapter. It's over.

In terms of Gojo's character, I'm not sure. Gojo not showing much concern for his students in the face of his death...i kinda think that's just how he is. He's always hinted subtly that he would leave things to Yuji, Megumi, and Yuta. I don't think he's worried because he has faith that they'll figure it out, just like he was relaxed when Kenjaku trapped him during The Shibuya Incident.

But the Sukuna wanking that he was doing...that kinda sucked. Like it's cool that he and Sukuna respect each other at the end, but meh.

Gojo was a fun character. His morality was fairly gray, he was an awful teacher, and his life was a series of epic failures that ended in a horrific loss, but he still tried to save Yuta, Megumi and Yuji. I liked him more than i realized.

Spoiler:

I feel like if it was clear that he was thinking he had no regrets cause he was confident in his students, that'd be one thing. Like imagine if Geto asks him why he doesn't have any regrets if his kids are gonna die and the chapter just ends with him going "Nah, they will win" in a parallel to him saying he would win. That'd be cool, but the fact it's kind of explicitly said he doesn't care about anyone, he just wants to fight, I never really got that vibe from him

At the very least, the whole "Sukuna's so strong, he wasn't even trying" feels like a total retcon, dude was struggling and barely won lol

And you're right, it's that typical anime bullsh*t where they hype up the big bad too much and it's not really believable the protagonist will win, so it feels like an asspull when they do. Like, Itadori isn't that strong, and allegedly Sukuna was barely even trying, so how is he supposed to win?

It's just hard to suspend disbelief over that. Plus you still have Kenjaku dicking around. Odds are, he beats Sukuna because something something master plan and then Itadori power of friendships his way to victory, a la Bleach

It just feels like you can tell Gege is done with it and wants to move on.

Spoiler:

I always got the sense that Gojo had a love for fighting, but not in the way it was presented here. He didn't seem like some adrenaline junkie.
I do agree with what was said about him though. Dude was weird.

That's what i guess irks me most. He was gone from the story for years and he only got brought back to be killed off, and in death we learn that he was some combat fiend? lol

We're probably going to see flashbacks going forward of what Gojo and everyone planned during the one month period after he was freed. They had to have had a plan in the event that Gojo lost.

But the idea that Sukuna was holding back is a load of garbage. He had to sit and wait for Maharoga to figure out how to break past Gojo's infinite technique or whatever, and he pissed himself once he realized that Gojo was about to basically nuke him. After the Domain Expansion battle ended, Sukuna was hiding behind Maharoga because he couldn't land a clean hit on Gojo without Malevolent Shrine. I dunno if there's something lost in translation but it doesn't make sense.

Giving him a technique that can literally cut space is overkill. You can't expect me to believe Yuji can survive against that. He supposedly has a new soul switching technique, and he swallowed the other cursed wombs, so he definitely has some new powers coming, but cutting space is a ridiculously overpowered ability to have in a battle manga

[MrDollarBills]

Chainsaw Man Chapter 144 Commentary:

Spoiler:

"Kids shouldn't play with guns. The precious hands of innocent children are meant for studying. Don't put guns in them!"

That was a really poignant anti gun violence message by The Nail Fiend, who then proceeded to use her hammer to scalp a teenage boy. This is peak Chainsaw Man.

KATANA MAN. YES.

[DOT]

So something I've been chewing on for a bit is, with the last few chapters of One Piece, there has been discussion amongst the fans about how we might see Akainu and Kizaru defect, Akainu because they think he'll have a problem with Imu and Kizaru because he's expressing regret for who he's supposed to kill in this arc

But I feel like anyone saying that is missing the point. The whole point is that while they may not be 100% on board, they still defend the system. Garp may be a good guy and he did allow Luffy to get past him, but at the end of the day, he chose being a marine over being a father/grandfather. Akainu and Kizaru may not be happy about it, but they will fall in line because that's who they are. Garp is the only one who kind of bucks the system, but even then it's really not in any meaningful way

There are moral marines like Garp, Kuzan, Koby, Fujitora, and I assume quite a few from the rescue mission, but their whole thing is they want to remake the marines from the inside. Akainu and Kizaru explicitly do not. So I can see Kuzan and Fujitora being allies in the final war, but I don't get where the Akainu and Kizaru retconning is coming from. Especially Akainu, I know it was like 20 years ago irl but the dude blew up an entire ship full of civilians just on the off chance one of the Oharan scholars was on it because he thought that was more efficient than checking each individual person, the same exact thing Saturn wants to do with the citizens of Egghead in the present.

[j4remi]

Chainsaw Man Chapter 144 Commentary:

Spoiler:

"Kids shouldn't play with guns. The precious hands of innocent children are meant for studying. Don't put guns in them!"

That was a really poignant anti gun violence message by The Nail Fiend, who then proceeded to use her hammer to scalp a teenage boy. This is peak Chainsaw Man.

KATANA MAN. YES.

Reserving judgement until they explain

Spoiler:

Why Quanxi and Katana Man are working with the Devil Hunter's Association after the way they were manipulated in part one. The chapters feel short recently, and the action is too one-sided to really excite me. I'm just waiting for the restraints to get pulled from Denji or Asa to return to plot relevance. These side characters are badass, but watching them beat up fodder isn't doin' it for me.

The one thing that's really interesting to me is that the nail fiend has the same brain thing that Cosmo had...Cosmo was dope, RIP.

[j4remi]

So something I've been chewing on for a bit is, with the last few chapters of One Piece, there has been discussion amongst the fans about how we might see Akainu and Kizaru defect, Akainu because they think he'll have a problem with Imu and Kizaru because he's expressing regret for who he's supposed to kill in this arc

But I feel like anyone saying that is missing the point. The whole point is that while they may not be 100% on board, they still defend the system. Garp may be a good guy and he did allow Luffy to get past him, but at the end of the day, he chose being a marine over being a father/grandfather. Akainu and Kizaru may not be happy about it, but they will fall in line because that's who they are. Garp is the only one who kind of bucks the system, but even then it's really not in any meaningful way

There are moral marines like Garp, Kuzan, Koby, Fujitora, and I assume quite a few from the rescue mission, but their whole thing is they want to remake the marines from the inside. Akainu and Kizaru explicitly do not. So I can see Kuzan and Fujitora being allies in the final war, but I don't get where the Akainu and Kizaru retconning is coming from. Especially Akainu, I know it was like 20 years ago irl but the dude blew up an entire ship full of civilians just on the off chance one of the Oharan scholars was on it because he thought that was more efficient than checking each individual person, the same exact thing Saturn wants to do with the citizens of Egghead in the present.

Agreed, these dudes follow orders even when they disagree with them. I think Fujitora is definitely gonna end up an ally. I'm still hoping Aokiji is an undercover Sword member. But Kizaru and Akainu (and Greenbull for that matter) seem like they'll "just follow orders" even when it goes against their beliefs. That's who they've been every time we see them.

I think the interesting aspect of this recent run is how the admirals are piling up the failures. Greenbull got chased off Wano, Fujitora doesn't obey orders, Akainu lost Kuma, and Kizaru's on the verge of losing Vegapunk and Luffy. Combine that with the Holy Knights and Gorosei beginning to move, and there's a chance that they'll have to take on more aggressive missions to make up for the recent screw-ups. Imu doesn't seem like the type to play with that.

Also, sidenote: We still don't know what the BB pirates are gonna do at Egghead, and I'm really curious about it.

[DOT]

Also, sidenote: We still don't know what the BB pirates are gonna do at Egghead, and I'm really curious about it.

I'm almost positive it's Devon on that ship, so my money's on them killing Saturn and either her impersonating him to give them sway over the Gorosei or them framing the Strawhats for it.

[MrDollarBills]

Chainsaw Man Chapter 144 Commentary:

Spoiler:

"Kids shouldn't play with guns. The precious hands of innocent children are meant for studying. Don't put guns in them!"

That was a really poignant anti gun violence message by The Nail Fiend, who then proceeded to use her hammer to scalp a teenage boy. This is peak Chainsaw Man.

KATANA MAN. YES.

Reserving judgement until they explain

Spoiler:

Why Quanxi and Katana Man are working with the Devil Hunter's Association after the way they were manipulated in part one. The chapters feel short recently, and the action is too one-sided to really excite me. I'm just waiting for the restraints to get pulled from Denji or Asa to return to plot relevance. These side characters are badass, but watching them beat up fodder isn't doin' it for me.

The one thing that's really interesting to me is that the nail fiend has the same brain thing that Cosmo had...Cosmo was dope, RIP.

Spoiler:

man I loved Cosmo. "Haaaa, loooo, haaaa, loooo, weeeeeeeeeen!!!" i cannot wait for that to be animated.

The only thing that I can think of regarding QueenXi and Katana Man, is that Kishibe is pulling the strings now that Makima is dead and he's the reason they're with the Hunters now. Kishibe was in love with QuanXi so that also probably has something to do with it.

Honestly I'm loving the last few chapters, the chapter with Denji and Nayuta going about their daily life was great. i think what the story really misses is Asa and Yoru. When Asa is involved the pace picks up (and the violence).

[MrDollarBills]

Re: JJK 236

I reread the entire Shinjuku Showdown arc. The transition from the end of 235 and the start of 236 makes a lot more sense if you read it straight through.

Spoiler:

At the end of 235, Gojo is talking sh*t instead of finishing Sukuna off. That was the end for him. He gave Sukuna just enough time to use that space slash that he learned from Maharoga. The attack hit him so hard and fast that it was an instant death. It was supposed to be jarring. One second he was alive, the next he finds himself in the train station. Even he was surprised.

Gojo died like an idiot and honestly, that was very in character for him

[DOT]

Re: JJK 236

I reread the entire Shinjuku Showdown arc. The transition from the end of 235 and the start of 236 makes a lot more sense if you read it straight through.

Spoiler:

At the end of 235, Gojo is talking sh*t instead of finishing Sukuna off. That was the end for him. He gave Sukuna just enough time to use that space slash that he learned from Maharoga. The attack hit him so hard and fast that it was an instant death. It was supposed to be jarring. One second he was alive, the next he finds himself in the train station. Even he was surprised.

Gojo died like an idiot and honestly, that was very in character for him

Spoiler:

My issue is that if there's an attack that can do that to Gojo, and Sukuna can pull it off even after all that damage, how is he getting beaten?

Like, I'm no expert on the JJK power system, but from what I do understand of it, Sukuna winning here is kind of just an asspull. Gojo absolutely needed to die, but the way it happened doesn't sit right, especially because it leaves the rest of the cast in kind of an unwinnable situation

I figured either Gojo and Sukuna would end each other, or Gojo would narrowly win and Kenjaku comes flying in off the top rope while he's exhausted and takes advantage of that to deliver a killing blow. To me, that's more narratively satisfying, we get confirmation that Gojo is the strongest while also writing him and Sukuna out of the story and leaving the rest of the cast with someone who's still incredibly strong, but believably beatable. You could still do something similar with Kenjaku backstabbing Sukuna, but it probably would have worked better the other way around, especially because the whole fight we're told Gojo's win con is hitting Sukuna with purple, not just by him but by Sukuna, so him hitting his win con and losing feels off. Plus the whole train station thing where they retcon Gojo as not really caring for the people, innocent or otherwise still doesn't sit right.

[MrDollarBills]

Re: JJK 236

I reread the entire Shinjuku Showdown arc. The transition from the end of 235 and the start of 236 makes a lot more sense if you read it straight through.

Spoiler:

At the end of 235, Gojo is talking sh*t instead of finishing Sukuna off. That was the end for him. He gave Sukuna just enough time to use that space slash that he learned from Maharoga. The attack hit him so hard and fast that it was an instant death. It was supposed to be jarring. One second he was alive, the next he finds himself in the train station. Even he was surprised.

Gojo died like an idiot and honestly, that was very in character for him

Spoiler:

My issue is that if there's an attack that can do that to Gojo, and Sukuna can pull it off even after all that damage, how is he getting beaten?

Like, I'm no expert on the JJK power system, but from what I do understand of it, Sukuna winning here is kind of just an asspull. Gojo absolutely needed to die, but the way it happened doesn't sit right, especially because it leaves the rest of the cast in kind of an unwinnable situation

I figured either Gojo and Sukuna would end each other, or Gojo would narrowly win and Kenjaku comes flying in off the top rope while he's exhausted and takes advantage of that to deliver a killing blow. To me, that's more narratively satisfying, we get confirmation that Gojo is the strongest while also writing him and Sukuna out of the story and leaving the rest of the cast with someone who's still incredibly strong, but believably beatable. You could still do something similar with Kenjaku backstabbing Sukuna, but it probably would have worked better the other way around, especially because the whole fight we're told Gojo's win con is hitting Sukuna with purple, not just by him but by Sukuna, so him hitting his win con and losing feels off. Plus the whole train station thing where they retcon Gojo as not really caring for the people, innocent or otherwise still doesn't sit right.

Spoiler:

I thought that what you described what was how the fight would end in 236. Gojo wins, and then Kenjaku jumps him.

I have no idea how the author plans to land this plane because right now, it looks like the antagonists are going to win. I can't fathom how you can beat the guy with the remaining players. Yuji is going to have to somehow tank an attack that can cut space, which is absurdly powerful even for a shonen manga.

The only thing that I can think of if is that Yuta has somehow copied Gojo's techniques, but even then what does it matter when he can use the space cleave to bypass them?

Re: Gojo's characterization, we've seen that he clearly cared for Geto, and also Megumi and his sister. He also cared for Amanai in his own way, if Geto didn't act as his conscience when they were younger, he would have slaughtered the people who hired Toji. He saved Yuta and Yuji. So i can't believe that he was some heartless violence addict. Yeah he was really weird, but there's a reason why he was so popular and it wasn't because he was heartless.

[DOT]

Re: JJK 236

I reread the entire Shinjuku Showdown arc. The transition from the end of 235 and the start of 236 makes a lot more sense if you read it straight through.

Spoiler:

At the end of 235, Gojo is talking sh*t instead of finishing Sukuna off. That was the end for him. He gave Sukuna just enough time to use that space slash that he learned from Maharoga. The attack hit him so hard and fast that it was an instant death. It was supposed to be jarring. One second he was alive, the next he finds himself in the train station. Even he was surprised.

Gojo died like an idiot and honestly, that was very in character for him

Spoiler:

My issue is that if there's an attack that can do that to Gojo, and Sukuna can pull it off even after all that damage, how is he getting beaten?

Like, I'm no expert on the JJK power system, but from what I do understand of it, Sukuna winning here is kind of just an asspull. Gojo absolutely needed to die, but the way it happened doesn't sit right, especially because it leaves the rest of the cast in kind of an unwinnable situation

I figured either Gojo and Sukuna would end each other, or Gojo would narrowly win and Kenjaku comes flying in off the top rope while he's exhausted and takes advantage of that to deliver a killing blow. To me, that's more narratively satisfying, we get confirmation that Gojo is the strongest while also writing him and Sukuna out of the story and leaving the rest of the cast with someone who's still incredibly strong, but believably beatable. You could still do something similar with Kenjaku backstabbing Sukuna, but it probably would have worked better the other way around, especially because the whole fight we're told Gojo's win con is hitting Sukuna with purple, not just by him but by Sukuna, so him hitting his win con and losing feels off. Plus the whole train station thing where they retcon Gojo as not really caring for the people, innocent or otherwise still doesn't sit right.

Spoiler:

I thought that what you described what was how the fight would end in 236. Gojo wins, and then Kenjaku jumps him.

I have no idea how the author plans to land this plane because right now, it looks like the antagonists are going to win. I can't fathom how you can beat the guy with the remaining players. Yuji is going to have to somehow tank an attack that can cut space, which is absurdly powerful even for a shonen manga.

The only thing that I can think of if is that Yuta has somehow copied Gojo's techniques, but even then what does it matter when he can use the space cleave to bypass them?

Re: Gojo's characterization, we've seen that he clearly cared for Geto, and also Megumi and his sister. He also cared for Amanai in his own way, if Geto didn't act as his conscience when they were younger, he would have slaughtered the people who hired Toji. He saved Yuta and Yuji. So i can't believe that he was some heartless violence addict. Yeah he was really weird, but there's a reason why he was so popular and it wasn't because he was heartless.

Yeah, I think you can just tell that Gege hates Gojo and is trying to retcon him lol

[j4remi]

Also, sidenote: We still don't know what the BB pirates are gonna do at Egghead, and I'm really curious about it.

I'm almost positive it's Devon on that ship, so my money's on them killing Saturn and either her impersonating him to give them sway over the Gorosei or them framing the Strawhats for it.

Spoiler:

The only other thing I could think of would be if they wanted something specific out of Punk Records or from the Void century. But that wouldn't fit the whole "world-shaking" part of this event. Something with Saturn would be the only piece that fits the bill.

Spoiler:

man I loved Cosmo. "Haaaa, loooo, haaaa, loooo, weeeeeeeeeen!!!" i cannot wait for that to be animated.

The only thing that I can think of regarding QueenXi and Katana Man, is that Kishibe is pulling the strings now that Makima is dead and he's the reason they're with the Hunters now. Kishibe was in love with QuanXi so that also probably has something to do with it.

Honestly I'm loving the last few chapters, the chapter with Denji and Nayuta going about their daily life was great. i think what the story really misses is Asa and Yoru. When Asa is involved the pace picks up (and the violence).

Cosmo is GOAT'ed. Part One QuanXi and the harem is kinda just all GOAT'ed for me. That's my favorite arc so far in CSM and Cosmo has my favorite moment.

Spoiler:

I'm skeptical about Kishibe being involved, only because I don't imagine him approving the other tactics the Devil Hunters have been using. Particularly threatening Nayuta to keep Denji in check. But he does have a twisted sense of humor.

Kishibe would most likely be assembling as much force as possible to handle whatever apocalyptic force is coming. But in that case, I'd be surprised he handcuffed Denji instead of continuing to train him up.

[DOT]

Also, sidenote: We still don't know what the BB pirates are gonna do at Egghead, and I'm really curious about it.

I'm almost positive it's Devon on that ship, so my money's on them killing Saturn and either her impersonating him to give them sway over the Gorosei or them framing the Strawhats for it.

Spoiler:

The only other thing I could think of would be if they wanted something specific out of Punk Records or from the Void century. But that wouldn't fit the whole "world-shaking" part of this event. Something with Saturn would be the only piece that fits the bill.

Spoiler:

There are only 2 things that would be world-shaking

1. The death of a Gorosei at the hands of pirates

2. The defeat of an admiral

Either would be unprecedented, but both at the same time (cause 1 kind of needs 2 to happen) would be world-shaking

I'm sure admirals have lost before, but with Morgans going AWOL, it won't be covered up. Cause like, even back in Roger's day, I don't think he messed with admirals, that flashback has him asking for Garp or Sengoku, both of whom were vice admirals at the time (I believe in Sengoku's case, not 100% when he became an admiral), so either the admirals were so weak he thought they weren't worth his time, or it's been generally agreed that you don't go looking for a fight with one of them

I know Kizaru was confident he could take both Kaido and Big Mom, but I'm not so sure. I think if the Navy had a person capable of beating a Yonko 1 on 1 reliably, they wouldn't be as big of issues. In my mind, the power balance is, 1 on 1, the Yonko wins, 2 on 1 it's a tossup, and 3 on 1 the admirals win, which would explain why they can't do anything about the Yonko, cause if they sent that much power at one place, they wouldn't be able to defend Marijoa, which is their prime directive.

[j4remi]

Spoiler:

There are only 2 things that would be world-shaking

1. The death of a Gorosei at the hands of pirates

2. The defeat of an admiral

Either would be unprecedented, but both at the same time (cause 1 kind of needs 2 to happen) would be world-shaking

I'm sure admirals have lost before, but with Morgans going AWOL, it won't be covered up. Cause like, even back in Roger's day, I don't think he messed with admirals, that flashback has him asking for Garp or Sengoku, both of whom were vice admirals at the time (I believe in Sengoku's case, not 100% when he became an admiral), so either the admirals were so weak he thought they weren't worth his time, or it's been generally agreed that you don't go looking for a fight with one of them

I know Kizaru was confident he could take both Kaido and Big Mom, but I'm not so sure. I think if the Navy had a person capable of beating a Yonko 1 on 1 reliably, they wouldn't be as big of issues. In my mind, the power balance is, 1 on 1, the Yonko wins, 2 on 1 it's a tossup, and 3 on 1 the admirals win, which would explain why they can't do anything about the Yonko, cause if they sent that much power at one place, they wouldn't be able to defend Marijoa, which is their prime directive.

Spoiler:

You're definitely right that it's gotta be one of those 2. A Gorosei dying (I guess captured could work too, since BB has a thing for taking hostages and trading them) would be the biggest story for sure. Luffy beating Kizaru would be major too (plus satisfying lol).

I like your math on the Yonko vs Admirals, that sounds right. I can't imagine any current Admiral beating prime WB one on one, but with a pair of complimenting powers maybe they could. Add in the big three we saw at Marineford, and I lean to the Admirals. I'm curious about the Holy Knights too. I want to see how strong they are and why they've been kept under unused up until now. The marines could conceivably use the Admirals as an offensive force, if the Holy Knights were able to protect Mariejoa.

[MrDollarBills]

Also, sidenote: We still don't know what the BB pirates are gonna do at Egghead, and I'm really curious about it.

I'm almost positive it's Devon on that ship, so my money's on them killing Saturn and either her impersonating him to give them sway over the Gorosei or them framing the Strawhats for it.

Spoiler:

The only other thing I could think of would be if they wanted something specific out of Punk Records or from the Void century. But that wouldn't fit the whole "world-shaking" part of this event. Something with Saturn would be the only piece that fits the bill.

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man I loved Cosmo. "Haaaa, loooo, haaaa, loooo, weeeeeeeeeen!!!" i cannot wait for that to be animated.

The only thing that I can think of regarding QueenXi and Katana Man, is that Kishibe is pulling the strings now that Makima is dead and he's the reason they're with the Hunters now. Kishibe was in love with QuanXi so that also probably has something to do with it.

Honestly I'm loving the last few chapters, the chapter with Denji and Nayuta going about their daily life was great. i think what the story really misses is Asa and Yoru. When Asa is involved the pace picks up (and the violence).

Cosmo is GOAT'ed. Part One QuanXi and the harem is kinda just all GOAT'ed for me. That's my favorite arc so far in CSM and Cosmo has my favorite moment.

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I'm skeptical about Kishibe being involved, only because I don't imagine him approving the other tactics the Devil Hunters have been using. Particularly threatening Nayuta to keep Denji in check. But he does have a twisted sense of humor.

Kishibe would most likely be assembling as much force as possible to handle whatever apocalyptic force is coming. But in that case, I'd be surprised he handcuffed Denji instead of continuing to train him up.

Re: CSM

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Kishibe is pretty twisted and made it clear in Part 1 that he doesn't care about fiends ("You have no human rights here") so i wouldn't put any of this craziness past him.

[MrDollarBills]

Here's a recommendation for the new fall season:

Watch on YouTube

Frieren: Beyond Journey's End (also known as Frieren of The Funeral):

The story follows elven mage Frieren, a former member of the party of adventurers who defeated the Demon King and restored harmony to the world after a ten-years-quest. In the past, the heroic group included Frieren, human hero Himmel, dwarven warrior Eisen and human priest Heiter. Before they part, they observe the Era Meteors together, a meteor shower that occurs once in fifty years. Frieren agrees to see them again and offer them a better view the next time the celestial event occurs. Frieren then departs and travels the world in pursuit of magical knowledge.

I actually read this back in 2020 on a scanlation site during the pandemic, it was an amazing read, with a very unique style of story telling. If I had to describe it, it's like a it's an incredibly sad love story disguised as a fantasy adventure epic. I didn't want to give away too many plot details, but it just started airing on CrunchyRoll.

Don't let the main character's design fool you. She is no joke, she's got the dog in her it runs for 25 episodes, but the manga is still ongoing.

[j4remi]

Here's a recommendation for the new fall season:

Watch on YouTube

Frieren: Beyond Journey's End (also known as Frieren of The Funeral):

The story follows elven mage Frieren, a former member of the party of adventurers who defeated the Demon King and restored harmony to the world after a ten-years-quest. In the past, the heroic group included Frieren, human hero Himmel, dwarven warrior Eisen and human priest Heiter. Before they part, they observe the Era Meteors together, a meteor shower that occurs once in fifty years. Frieren agrees to see them again and offer them a better view the next time the celestial event occurs. Frieren then departs and travels the world in pursuit of magical knowledge.

I actually read this back in 2020 on a scanlation site during the pandemic, it was an amazing read, with a very unique style of story telling. If I had to describe it, it's like a it's an incredibly sad love story disguised as a fantasy adventure epic. I didn't want to give away too many plot details, but it just started airing on CrunchyRoll.

Don't let the main character's design fool you. She is no joke, she's got the dog in her it runs for 25 episodes, but the manga is still ongoing.

The hype train for this anime feels like it rivals the hype train for Kagura Bachi. But I feel like this one must be earned, because it's all the manga readers that love it and Kagura Bachi was gassed before chapter one even dropped. I'll definitely be checking for it, though my backlog is getting insane. I really want to find time for Undead Girl Murder Farce before anything else.

[MrDollarBills]

Here's a recommendation for the new fall season:

Watch on YouTube

Frieren: Beyond Journey's End (also known as Frieren of The Funeral):

The story follows elven mage Frieren, a former member of the party of adventurers who defeated the Demon King and restored harmony to the world after a ten-years-quest. In the past, the heroic group included Frieren, human hero Himmel, dwarven warrior Eisen and human priest Heiter. Before they part, they observe the Era Meteors together, a meteor shower that occurs once in fifty years. Frieren agrees to see them again and offer them a better view the next time the celestial event occurs. Frieren then departs and travels the world in pursuit of magical knowledge.

I actually read this back in 2020 on a scanlation site during the pandemic, it was an amazing read, with a very unique style of story telling. If I had to describe it, it's like a it's an incredibly sad love story disguised as a fantasy adventure epic. I didn't want to give away too many plot details, but it just started airing on CrunchyRoll.

Don't let the main character's design fool you. She is no joke, she's got the dog in her it runs for 25 episodes, but the manga is still ongoing.

The hype train for this anime feels like it rivals the hype train for Kagura Bachi. But I feel like this one must be earned, because it's all the manga readers that love it and Kagura Bachi was gassed before chapter one even dropped. I'll definitely be checking for it, though my backlog is getting insane. I really want to find time for Undead Girl Murder Farce before anything else.

Kagura Bachi is zoomer meme hype i love it honestly, being an 80s baby anime fan i want the kids to enjoy the medium so anything like this i support. I hope the author sees how much Americans have gassed up his work. I've never seen anything like this.

Re: Frieren, it absolutely earned not only the hype but a full 25 episode first season. The story is that good. Some of the stories will make you laugh, some will make you sad, some moments are just simply "oh sh*t!!".