Dame traded to the Bucks!

[m0ng0]

Can't wait to see Dame and Nurk playing in the 2024 NBA Finals though. The dream comes true, oh wait...

That may be the test for Blazers fans if Lillard wins a title or two in the next 3-4 seasons.

Some may be happy for Dame and some may think they didn't get enough back for him.

He is gone, who cares

[zzaj]

Wierd... Cronin, with the additon of Jrue, now has three legit guards in Jrue, Simons and Scoot. What does Miami have again? Oh yeah... Lowry. Air is pretty salty down there in south beach. Which GM is looking like the better of Riley and Cronin through all of this? Good luck Miami fan, getting any other GM in the league to do business with your team after all of this classy behavior by YOUR GM.

Oh don't worry...Miami fans will be holding on to Goodwin's "Miami did everything they possibly could" post forever trying to spin this back on the Blazers.

To a one, I haven't seen a single Miami fan who has said that if they wanted Lillard they needed to go out of their way to make it happen.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

So you think Miami should try to trade for Jrue then?

Because your whole board is saying he should never deal with Portland again, lol.

Totally, but I don't know how professional Cronin is, so far his resume:

tank a season
tank a season
promise to build around Dame and don't deliver
trade Dame for a worse deal out of spite

I don't know if Cronin wants to, but I think the Heat might offer 1 FRP + one of their young guys.

Yes, he absolutely traded Dame for a worse deal out of spite after ensuring other guys got where they wanted.

I know it's difficult for you to maybe reflect on whether the Heat just didn't offer what they could've.

You had a superstar who publicly wanted to go only to your team and your team didn't offer all it could. We're familiar here with holding onto young talent and picks rather than trade them for better players (CJ + picks for Jimmy, CJ + picks for PG13).

In the end Portland still traded him to a team he was fine with going to as we see from Marc Spears' report about Goodwin reaching out to the Nets and Milwaukee.

Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks, which is the latest reports on what Miami was willing to offer.

For Miami fans who want to come over here and try to derail our trade thread because you're upset Portland didn't acquiesce to Miami, move on. There's no need to personally do your part in lowering concerns about rising sea levels by draining all the salt out of the Atlantic.

Cronin didn't call Miami to tell them, "Milwaukee offered this. Can you beat it?"

Ayton was going to POR no matter which team was involved.

He just accepted an inferior offer without even trying to get more from Miami, and went against Dame's wishlist... 100% looks like spite.


You have a GM who mismanaged your GOAT Franchise player into demanding a trade, and then he makes spite trades fueled on emotion. Ouch.

[VaDe255]

So you think Miami should try to trade for Jrue then?

Because your whole board is saying he should never deal with Portland again, lol.

Totally, but I don't know how professional Cronin is, so far his resume:

tank a season
tank a season
promise to build around Dame and don't deliver
trade Dame for a worse deal out of spite

I don't know if Cronin wants to, but I think the Heat might offer 1 FRP + one of their young guys.

Yes, he absolutely traded Dame for a worse deal out of spite after ensuring other guys got where they wanted.

I know it's difficult for you to maybe reflect on whether the Heat just didn't offer what they could've.

You had a superstar who publicly wanted to go only to your team and your team didn't offer all it could. We're familiar here with holding onto young talent and picks rather than trade them for better players (CJ + picks for Jimmy, CJ + picks for PG13).

In the end Portland still traded him to a team he was fine with going to as we see from Marc Spears' report about Goodwin reaching out to the Nets and Milwaukee.

Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks, which is the latest reports on what Miami was willing to offer.

For Miami fans who want to come over here and try to derail our trade thread because you're upset Portland didn't acquiesce to Miami, move on. There's no need to personally do your part in lowering concerns about rising sea levels by draining all the salt out of the Atlantic.

I'm not trying to derail anything. I'm happy you guys got the deal done and Dame got to a reasonble destination. It's the first thing that I said.

Now the Heat had Herro, Jovic, JJJ + 3 FRPs, Caleb as assets that are close to a FRP and they really wanted Dame.
It is very difficult for me to imagine that the Portland FO went to them and said, hey here is the deal we have from Milwaukee if you don't beat it we take it.
They absolutely could have beaten that deal.

The way it went down from reports is that they just never went back to the Heat and were happy to take the Milwaukee offer.
It's fine with me, it is what it is and down the road offering everything the Heat have would have hurt them.

The Heat are fine, they have promising young guys and are banking on Herro making another leap.
The only one who really suffers here is Jimmy and that is the only part I am upset about, he played his heart out for the organization and they could not put another star next to him. Maybe they get smth. done, but the clock is ticking for him.

[DusterBuster]

Totally, but I don't know how professional Cronin is, so far his resume:

tank a season
tank a season
promise to build around Dame and don't deliver
trade Dame for a worse deal out of spite

I don't know if Cronin wants to, but I think the Heat might offer 1 FRP + one of their young guys.

Yes, he absolutely traded Dame for a worse deal out of spite after ensuring other guys got where they wanted.

I know it's difficult for you to maybe reflect on whether the Heat just didn't offer what they could've.

You had a superstar who publicly wanted to go only to your team and your team didn't offer all it could. We're familiar here with holding onto young talent and picks rather than trade them for better players (CJ + picks for Jimmy, CJ + picks for PG13).

In the end Portland still traded him to a team he was fine with going to as we see from Marc Spears' report about Goodwin reaching out to the Nets and Milwaukee.

Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks, which is the latest reports on what Miami was willing to offer.

For Miami fans who want to come over here and try to derail our trade thread because you're upset Portland didn't acquiesce to Miami, move on. There's no need to personally do your part in lowering concerns about rising sea levels by draining all the salt out of the Atlantic.

Cronin didn't call Miami to tell them, "Milwaukee offered this. Can you beat it?"

Ayton was going to POR no matter which team was involved.

He just accepted an inferior offer without even trying to get more from Miami, and went against Dame's wishlist... 100% looks like spite.

Why would they bother calling Miami to ask them if they can beat something they clearly can't?

Maybe better to stay over with your Heat support group, eh Grumps?

The Blazers literally sent Dame to a better team and gave him a better chance to win a title, thereby doing right by him lmao. Also, Dame's agent talked to Milwaukee and Brooklyn a few days ago to let them know Dame would also consider them.

It was NEVER actually Miami and that's it. It was his number 1 and they pushed it, but he had other teams he was willing to be traded too.

So cope harder.

[zzaj]

The more I think about the trade, the more I'm into it.

If you factor in defense, Lillard is just a slight tick above Holiday overall. They are both 33. Holiday's contract is very favorable...so basically the Blazers swapped a near impossible contract for one that will be pretty easy to move...for about the same level of player.

Now obviously injury history is a factor, but Lillard is no longer the iron man he was at the beginning of his career. I would argue that some contending teams would RATHER trade for Jrue than Lillard given his ability to play both sides of the ball and seeming willingness to fit into an existing roster.

[The Sebastian Express]

Totally, but I don't know how professional Cronin is, so far his resume:

tank a season
tank a season
promise to build around Dame and don't deliver
trade Dame for a worse deal out of spite

I don't know if Cronin wants to, but I think the Heat might offer 1 FRP + one of their young guys.

Yes, he absolutely traded Dame for a worse deal out of spite after ensuring other guys got where they wanted.

I know it's difficult for you to maybe reflect on whether the Heat just didn't offer what they could've.

You had a superstar who publicly wanted to go only to your team and your team didn't offer all it could. We're familiar here with holding onto young talent and picks rather than trade them for better players (CJ + picks for Jimmy, CJ + picks for PG13).

In the end Portland still traded him to a team he was fine with going to as we see from Marc Spears' report about Goodwin reaching out to the Nets and Milwaukee.

Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks, which is the latest reports on what Miami was willing to offer.

For Miami fans who want to come over here and try to derail our trade thread because you're upset Portland didn't acquiesce to Miami, move on. There's no need to personally do your part in lowering concerns about rising sea levels by draining all the salt out of the Atlantic.

Cronin didn't call Miami to tell them, "Milwaukee offered this. Can you beat it?"

Ayton was going to POR no matter which team was involved.

He just accepted an inferior offer without even trying to get more from Miami, and went against Dame's wishlist... 100% looks like spite.

If you only offer the same package for nearly three months and don't improve, as it sounds like was the case, then it is on you and not the team trading the All NBA player to reach out.

No one here is cowering in reverence at the ego and aura of Pat Riley. I'm sorry.

And 100% looks like Dame was perfectly fine going to Milwaukee in the end because Miami wouldn't do business:

Read on Twitter

You'll also note I didn't list Ayton at all. I said Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks.

If you have a problem with anyone, have a problem with Pat Riley.

The future is now, old man.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Yes, he absolutely traded Dame for a worse deal out of spite after ensuring other guys got where they wanted.

I know it's difficult for you to maybe reflect on whether the Heat just didn't offer what they could've.

You had a superstar who publicly wanted to go only to your team and your team didn't offer all it could. We're familiar here with holding onto young talent and picks rather than trade them for better players (CJ + picks for Jimmy, CJ + picks for PG13).

In the end Portland still traded him to a team he was fine with going to as we see from Marc Spears' report about Goodwin reaching out to the Nets and Milwaukee.

Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks, which is the latest reports on what Miami was willing to offer.

For Miami fans who want to come over here and try to derail our trade thread because you're upset Portland didn't acquiesce to Miami, move on. There's no need to personally do your part in lowering concerns about rising sea levels by draining all the salt out of the Atlantic.

Cronin didn't call Miami to tell them, "Milwaukee offered this. Can you beat it?"

Ayton was going to POR no matter which team was involved.

He just accepted an inferior offer without even trying to get more from Miami, and went against Dame's wishlist... 100% looks like spite.

Why would they bother calling Miami to ask them if they can beat something they clearly can't?

Maybe better to stay over with your Heat support group, eh Grumps?

Ayton was going to POR no matter team involved.



So essentially Jrue + 1frp

vs

Miami was offering Herro + 2 frp

wdym?

[DusterBuster]

I should also add, if the Blazers did this deal out of spite to the Heat, I'm also 100% OK with that.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Yes, he absolutely traded Dame for a worse deal out of spite after ensuring other guys got where they wanted.

I know it's difficult for you to maybe reflect on whether the Heat just didn't offer what they could've.

You had a superstar who publicly wanted to go only to your team and your team didn't offer all it could. We're familiar here with holding onto young talent and picks rather than trade them for better players (CJ + picks for Jimmy, CJ + picks for PG13).

In the end Portland still traded him to a team he was fine with going to as we see from Marc Spears' report about Goodwin reaching out to the Nets and Milwaukee.

Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks, which is the latest reports on what Miami was willing to offer.

For Miami fans who want to come over here and try to derail our trade thread because you're upset Portland didn't acquiesce to Miami, move on. There's no need to personally do your part in lowering concerns about rising sea levels by draining all the salt out of the Atlantic.

Cronin didn't call Miami to tell them, "Milwaukee offered this. Can you beat it?"

Ayton was going to POR no matter which team was involved.

He just accepted an inferior offer without even trying to get more from Miami, and went against Dame's wishlist... 100% looks like spite.

If you only offer the same package for nearly three months and don't improve, as it sounds like was the case, then it is on you and not the team trading the All NBA player to reach out.

No one here is cowering in reverence at the ego and aura of Pat Riley. I'm sorry.

And 100% looks like Dame was perfectly fine going to Milwaukee in the end because Miami wouldn't do business:

Read on Twitter

You'll also note I didn't list Ayton at all. I said Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks.

If you have a problem with anyone, have a problem with Pat Riley.

The future is now, old man.

Why are you ranting against Pat Riley? are you okay?


Such a weird off topic rant

You didn't mention Ayton because Ayton going to POR was going to happen regardless of team involved. Miami would have sent Caleb Martin to PHX or something to send Ayton out to POR.


The deal was essentially Herro + 2 frp vs Jrue + 1 frp

and Dame's wish to be in Miami.

Cronin went against all of it, interesting to me you're happy with it. You seem to be more unhappy about other things, some inferiority complex about Pat Riley or something lol

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

I should also add, if the Blazers did this deal out of spite to the Heat, I'm also 100% OK with that.

And there it is

Heat did nothing wrong here, blaming Miami for Dame wanting out is hilarious, Dame was upset at YOUR front office.

[The Sebastian Express]

Cronin didn't call Miami to tell them, "Milwaukee offered this. Can you beat it?"

Ayton was going to POR no matter which team was involved.

He just accepted an inferior offer without even trying to get more from Miami, and went against Dame's wishlist... 100% looks like spite.

If you only offer the same package for nearly three months and don't improve, as it sounds like was the case, then it is on you and not the team trading the All NBA player to reach out.

No one here is cowering in reverence at the ego and aura of Pat Riley. I'm sorry.

And 100% looks like Dame was perfectly fine going to Milwaukee in the end because Miami wouldn't do business:

Read on Twitter

You'll also note I didn't list Ayton at all. I said Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks.

If you have a problem with anyone, have a problem with Pat Riley.

The future is now, old man.

Why are you ranting against Pat Riley? are you okay?


Such a weird off topic rant

You didn't mention Ayton because Ayton going to POR was going to happen regardless of team involved. Miami would have sent Caleb Martin to PHX or something to send Ayton out to POR.


The deal was essentially Herro + 2 frp vs Jrue + 1 frp

and Dame's wish to be in Miami.

Cronin went against all of it, interesting to me you're happy with it. You seem to be more unhappy about other things, some inferiority complex about Pat Riley or something lol

Ah, I remember you from the general board now. The guy constantly intentionally acts obtuse and makes up arguments out of thin air.

Consider this a warning for trolling. You keep doing it, it's twelve hours.

Have a great day.

[Effigy]

Totally, but I don't know how professional Cronin is, so far his resume:

tank a season
tank a season
promise to build around Dame and don't deliver
trade Dame for a worse deal out of spite

I don't know if Cronin wants to, but I think the Heat might offer 1 FRP + one of their young guys.

Yes, he absolutely traded Dame for a worse deal out of spite after ensuring other guys got where they wanted.

I know it's difficult for you to maybe reflect on whether the Heat just didn't offer what they could've.

You had a superstar who publicly wanted to go only to your team and your team didn't offer all it could. We're familiar here with holding onto young talent and picks rather than trade them for better players (CJ + picks for Jimmy, CJ + picks for PG13).

In the end Portland still traded him to a team he was fine with going to as we see from Marc Spears' report about Goodwin reaching out to the Nets and Milwaukee.

Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks, which is the latest reports on what Miami was willing to offer.

For Miami fans who want to come over here and try to derail our trade thread because you're upset Portland didn't acquiesce to Miami, move on. There's no need to personally do your part in lowering concerns about rising sea levels by draining all the salt out of the Atlantic.

I'm not trying to derail anything. I'm happy you guys got the deal done and Dame got to a reasonble destination. It's the first thing that I said.

Now the Heat had Herro, Jovic, JJJ + 3 FRPs, Caleb as assets that are close to a FRP and they really wanted Dame.
It is very difficult for me to imagine that the Portland FO went to them and said, hey here is the deal we have from Milwaukee if you don't beat it we take it.
They absolutely could have beaten that deal.

The way it went down from reports is that they just never went back to the Heat and were happy to take the Milwaukee offer.
It's fine with me, it is what it is and down the road offering everything the Heat have would have hurt them.

The Heat are fine, they have promising young guys and are banking on Herro making another leap.
The only one who really suffers here is Jimmy and that is the only part I am upset about, he played his heart out for the organization and they could not put another star next to him. Maybe they get smth. done, but the clock is ticking for him.

They had 3 FRPs? I thought they only had 2?

[DusterBuster]

I should also add, if the Blazers did this deal out of spite to the Heat, I'm also 100% OK with that.

And there it is

Fortunately, normal people think about their franchise and fans.

Yeah, no **** lol. I still believe this is a better offer as Jrue will return and be easier to move than Herro. The Blazers don't need Herro and apparently a lot of other teams don't either since there's zero trade market for him.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I am going to be so glad when we stop having Heat fans troll us with baseless conspiracy theories how everything about our team sucks.

Go home. Your offer got beat. Riley didn't put everything on the table and got shut out by offers we preferred. If he wanted Dame more he should have bid more but he did not and another team got him.

It is beyond absurd to think Portland purposefully took an inferior offer just to spite someone. Every single team and every single GM and every single person is going to take what they think is the best offer. Maybe they are wrong because people have different ideas about what is the "best" but Portland didn't want bottom out with Miami's offering, we wanted players who can contribute now. Not do nothing rookies and picks 5 years out but here and now talent that Miami could not offer and did not make the effort to find.

Glad its over, time for everyone to go home. Disagree all you want in your own echo chamber but please stop trolling us with this nonsense.

[VaDe255]

Yes, he absolutely traded Dame for a worse deal out of spite after ensuring other guys got where they wanted.

I know it's difficult for you to maybe reflect on whether the Heat just didn't offer what they could've.

You had a superstar who publicly wanted to go only to your team and your team didn't offer all it could. We're familiar here with holding onto young talent and picks rather than trade them for better players (CJ + picks for Jimmy, CJ + picks for PG13).

In the end Portland still traded him to a team he was fine with going to as we see from Marc Spears' report about Goodwin reaching out to the Nets and Milwaukee.

Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks, which is the latest reports on what Miami was willing to offer.

For Miami fans who want to come over here and try to derail our trade thread because you're upset Portland didn't acquiesce to Miami, move on. There's no need to personally do your part in lowering concerns about rising sea levels by draining all the salt out of the Atlantic.

I'm not trying to derail anything. I'm happy you guys got the deal done and Dame got to a reasonble destination. It's the first thing that I said.

Now the Heat had Herro, Jovic, JJJ + 3 FRPs, Caleb as assets that are close to a FRP and they really wanted Dame.
It is very difficult for me to imagine that the Portland FO went to them and said, hey here is the deal we have from Milwaukee if you don't beat it we take it.
They absolutely could have beaten that deal.

The way it went down from reports is that they just never went back to the Heat and were happy to take the Milwaukee offer.
It's fine with me, it is what it is and down the road offering everything the Heat have would have hurt them.

The Heat are fine, they have promising young guys and are banking on Herro making another leap.
The only one who really suffers here is Jimmy and that is the only part I am upset about, he played his heart out for the organization and they could not put another star next to him. Maybe they get smth. done, but the clock is ticking for him.

They had 3 FRPs? I thought they only had 2?

I'd say OKC would have swapped the protected pick vs an unprotected pick a year later, don't see a reason why they wouldn't. It's clearly better for them to do it.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

If you only offer the same package for nearly three months and don't improve, as it sounds like was the case, then it is on you and not the team trading the All NBA player to reach out.

No one here is cowering in reverence at the ego and aura of Pat Riley. I'm sorry.

And 100% looks like Dame was perfectly fine going to Milwaukee in the end because Miami wouldn't do business:

Read on Twitter

You'll also note I didn't list Ayton at all. I said Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks.

If you have a problem with anyone, have a problem with Pat Riley.

The future is now, old man.

Why are you ranting against Pat Riley? are you okay?


Such a weird off topic rant

You didn't mention Ayton because Ayton going to POR was going to happen regardless of team involved. Miami would have sent Caleb Martin to PHX or something to send Ayton out to POR.


The deal was essentially Herro + 2 frp vs Jrue + 1 frp

and Dame's wish to be in Miami.

Cronin went against all of it, interesting to me you're happy with it. You seem to be more unhappy about other things, some inferiority complex about Pat Riley or something lol

Ah, I remember you from the general board now. The guy constantly intentionally acts obtuse and makes up arguments out of thin air.

Consider this a warning for trolling. You keep doing it, it's twelve hours.

Have a great day.

You called me names, you called me "old man", and you say I'm the one trolling?

I am discussing the Lillard trade. If you don't want Heat fans here, say so

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Yes, he absolutely traded Dame for a worse deal out of spite after ensuring other guys got where they wanted.

I know it's difficult for you to maybe reflect on whether the Heat just didn't offer what they could've.

You had a superstar who publicly wanted to go only to your team and your team didn't offer all it could. We're familiar here with holding onto young talent and picks rather than trade them for better players (CJ + picks for Jimmy, CJ + picks for PG13).

In the end Portland still traded him to a team he was fine with going to as we see from Marc Spears' report about Goodwin reaching out to the Nets and Milwaukee.

Jrue + a pick + two swaps is better than Herro + two picks, which is the latest reports on what Miami was willing to offer.

For Miami fans who want to come over here and try to derail our trade thread because you're upset Portland didn't acquiesce to Miami, move on. There's no need to personally do your part in lowering concerns about rising sea levels by draining all the salt out of the Atlantic.

I'm not trying to derail anything. I'm happy you guys got the deal done and Dame got to a reasonble destination. It's the first thing that I said.

Now the Heat had Herro, Jovic, JJJ + 3 FRPs, Caleb as assets that are close to a FRP and they really wanted Dame.
It is very difficult for me to imagine that the Portland FO went to them and said, hey here is the deal we have from Milwaukee if you don't beat it we take it.
They absolutely could have beaten that deal.

The way it went down from reports is that they just never went back to the Heat and were happy to take the Milwaukee offer.
It's fine with me, it is what it is and down the road offering everything the Heat have would have hurt them.

The Heat are fine, they have promising young guys and are banking on Herro making another leap.
The only one who really suffers here is Jimmy and that is the only part I am upset about, he played his heart out for the organization and they could not put another star next to him. Maybe they get smth. done, but the clock is ticking for him.

They had 3 FRPs? I thought they only had 2?

The goal posts are constantly shifting with these folks. All we can do is continue to point out the absurdity of their relies but they will come up with some new bull and it takes 10x the effort to counter BS with logic and facts than it does to spew it.

[The Sebastian Express]

My man reported my post for calling Pat Riley an old man. That's gotten one of the biggest laughs of the day.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

My man reported my post for calling Pat Riley an old man. That's gotten one of the biggest laughs of the day.

Do you think I am pat riley? Why are you replying to my posts and calling me old man then?

Please don't troll me then? Whatever, you clearly started using your moderator powers, I don't think Heat fans are welcome here, have a good day