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Post#921 » by theFireBlanket » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:40 pm

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JonHeist wrote:I think Jrue ends up traded to GSW for CP3 and a few of their young guys/picks

It's got to be Toronto, they have the most to offer by far. Would LOVE to see CP3 end up in Portland though, he's already doomed but that would be the final nail in the coffin.


He might be a jacka** but I don't think so. Everytime he's traded it reignites something in him. Whether he's in GS or somewhere new, I'd say its an uptrend year for CP.
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Post#922 » by MiltownHawkeye » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:40 pm

...is Khris the best player Dame has ever played with?

(I say this as someone who thinks Aldridge on the Blazers was ridiculously overrated)
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Post#923 » by tedbrogen » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:40 pm

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engelmartin wrote:
JonHeist wrote:I think Jrue ends up traded to GSW for CP3 and a few of their young guys/picks

It's got to be Toronto, they have the most to offer by far. Would LOVE to see CP3 end up in Portland though, he's already doomed but that would be the final nail in the coffin.


Jrue would be a great fit next to Curry, could see that making sense but idk what picks/youth stuff they have to offer.

If CP3 went to Por I'm sure a buy out would happen. He'd almost for sure end up in LAL but MKE does need a backup PG too


If the Bucks somehow got CP3 as a backup PG on a minimum salary out of all this and went from zero point guards to Dame and CP3, that would be hilarious.

Not sure I really want CP3 though. Seems to be cursed.
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Post#924 » by milweskee » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:43 pm

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milweskee wrote:Kinda crazy that Portland was okay with taking on Jrue without a 4th team yesterday.


Wanted to get the deal done before Media Day on Friday so they could move forward with this being Scoot's team.

They know they can get at minimum a young player and a pick or two picks and expiring salary for Jrue.


Still kinda crazy.

Portland gave up the best piece and inherited an unknown commodity while we're printing Lillard jerseys.

Jrue will pay off in some capacity but them being willing to assume that after the fact is still kind of a big deal. Can't wait to see what becomes of that.
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Post#925 » by jute2003 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:43 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:It will definitely take this team time to gel. So an up and down start wouldn't be surprising.

I do expect a semi-disappointing start to the season. But once Giannis remembers that he can also be incredibly effective without the ball, then dear god.

I am also a little worried that Coach Griffin now has a tremendous amount of pressure to succeed. The Stotts hire will absolutely be clutch for this team.

Giannis, Dame, and three great shooters in crunch time. That’s terrifying. I have no idea how you stop a late game high PNR with Giannis and Dame without leaving at least one shooter, but probably two, open.

I don’t even know who leads this team in scoring. Probably Giannis, but would anyone be shocked if it were Khris? The guy will be the least guarded he’s been since he broke out and should no longer have the type of ball handling duties he’s had to have over the past few years. Obviously it could be Dame.

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I got Khris having his best season ever if he stays healthy and stays at around 28-32MPG. I'm feeling something like 24, 7, 4 on great efficiency.
He won't get the shots for 24 ppg. If he's healthy he should be pretty damn efficient though.
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Post#926 » by DingleJerry » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:44 pm

In a way Allen is a good fit around those stars in PHX since he's an off ball no drama guy. Can fill in when those guys are hurt and needs days off. But really they have so many guys in his skills/size/position area they really should be looking to flip him somewhere else for D/Hustle/size or someone similar level but more PG type, say Morris from the Wiz type guy. If Allan is getting the overhype from media now it might be best time to trade. Weird, when he was on the bucks he was a POS who should be banned from the league but now he's an elite role player (according to what ya'll are saying, I have watched literally 0 talking head bs). Also, eyeballing their roster and their connection to Cam Payne he'd make sense there unless there was some bad blood.
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Post#927 » by chonestown » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:44 pm

Lillard o'clock is something I just came up. Has a nice ring to it.imo
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Post#928 » by Ruben Quevedo » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:45 pm

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JonHeist wrote:I think Jrue ends up traded to GSW for CP3 and a few of their young guys/picks


CP3+Kuminga+Moody+28 1st works salary wise and I'd assume the Blazers would be happy with that.

It also works without Moody, but then I'd think Portland would want another pick or swap and the only option in that case currently is a 27 or 29 swap because the Warriors have a bunch of picks lock up until one conveys in 24, 25, or 26.

CP3 wouldn't be a bad mentor for one season for Scoot and Kuminga would be their PF of the future so they can then ditch Grant sometime after January 15th when he is trade eligible.


Kuminga is extremely talented but he's been so bad on the floor that there's no way Portland should take him as a centerpiece for Jrue. He's a sweetener in my opinion.
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Post#929 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:47 pm

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Post#930 » by tedbrogen » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:49 pm

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"Told them to keep it on the low"
I read it the opposite way. That Goodwin still wanted to be in control of things and not say anything as it might hurt his client.

Which I guess could be viewed as tampering since the they were talking to an agent without the TBs knowledge?


Dame wants to win. The initial demand was to try to force a trade to the Heat for scraps.

Keeping it on the low meant the Blazers were negotiating with two teams that they didn't know Dame was okay going to so potentially it could suppress the price a bit and would also not alert other teams (Celtics, Sixers, Clippers, Lakers, so forth) who might try to jump in with bigger offers.

It was always in Dame's best interest to get traded for the least amount possible so the team he ends up on has the better chance to win a title.
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Post#931 » by SupremeHustle » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:50 pm

This Dame trade is a big deal. I'm hearing from people I haven't heard from in a long time. Women I've long forgotten about are sending me nudes. It's like I'm on the team. It's insane.
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Post#932 » by tedbrogen » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:53 pm

MiltownHawkeye wrote:...is Khris the best player Dame has ever played with?

(I say this as someone who thinks Aldridge on the Blazers was ridiculously overrated)


I know Aldridge has been all NBA, which I don't think Midds has, but Midds has a 40 point finals game, so I'd take Midds.

(I know, I know, Aldridge never got to the finals)
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Post#933 » by tedbrogen » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:58 pm

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JonHeist wrote:I think Jrue ends up traded to GSW for CP3 and a few of their young guys/picks


CP3+Kuminga+Moody+28 1st works salary wise and I'd assume the Blazers would be happy with that.

It also works without Moody, but then I'd think Portland would want another pick or swap and the only option in that case currently is a 27 or 29 swap because the Warriors have a bunch of picks lock up until one conveys in 24, 25, or 26.

CP3 wouldn't be a bad mentor for one season for Scoot and Kuminga would be their PF of the future so they can then ditch Grant sometime after January 15th when he is trade eligible.


Kuminga is extremely talented but he's been so bad on the floor that there's no way Portland should take him as a centerpiece for Jrue. He's a sweetener in my opinion.


28 unprotected first is the centerpiece. It coincides with the year after Curry's age 39 season and Jrue/Thompson's age 37 season, I believe.

You just ask for Kuminga and Moody as lottery tickets and to try and strip the Warriors of anyone who could turn into something that would be good in 2028.
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Post#934 » by Daver » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:59 pm

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bucksfansince88 wrote:
LedZepp007 wrote:I do expect a semi-disappointing start to the season. But once Giannis remembers that he can also be incredibly effective without the ball, then dear god.

I am also a little worried that Coach Griffin now has a tremendous amount of pressure to succeed. The Stotts hire will absolutely be clutch for this team.

Giannis, Dame, and three great shooters in crunch time. That’s terrifying. I have no idea how you stop a late game high PNR with Giannis and Dame without leaving at least one shooter, but probably two, open.

I don’t even know who leads this team in scoring. Probably Giannis, but would anyone be shocked if it were Khris? The guy will be the least guarded he’s been since he broke out and should no longer have the type of ball handling duties he’s had to have over the past few years. Obviously it could be Dame.

Giannis may average a triple double.


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I got Khris having his best season ever if he stays healthy and stays at around 28-32MPG. I'm feeling something like 24, 7, 4 on great efficiency.
He won't get the shots for 24 ppg. If he's healthy he should be pretty damn efficient though.



Agree with 3 studs i would love to see how many shots these players grt per game.Giannis will get less im assuming dame who shoots alot im assumimg will also get less n kris doesnnt seem like he cares how msny shots he gets.1 ball 3 shooters n thats not counting brook.
Might be hard for midds to get his 18 shots agsin im looking at 18 -20 ppg for midds 30 dame 30 gisnnis 16 brook 8 marjon
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Post#935 » by El Pooch Grande » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:59 pm

Finally getting a chance to comment on what has to be the biggest offseason news that this board has ever seen. I am still in shock and am beyond ecstatic that the Milwaukee Bucks, a team that I grew up with seeing destined to be in the lottery year after year, TRADED FOR DAMIAN FREAKIN LILLARD BABY!!!!!

A huge tip of the cap to everyone invloved. Edens, Haslam, Jonny Horst....talk about a legendary get. Amazing to have these type of owners in a small market. Clearly a huge signal to Giannis that we are committed. Have to think there is no way Giannis leaves before 2028 now. This team is going to be incredible to watch, and I am confident we can raise that Larry O'Brien once again, and maybe, dare I say, make a run at #TeamOfThe2020s?

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Post#936 » by El Pooch Grande » Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:00 pm

Also Terry Stotts is our Nathaniel Hackett...going to be great to see him reunited with Dame!
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Post#937 » by humanrefutation » Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:03 pm

I'm surprised to see some of the NBA media questioning whether the Bucks improved much when considering the defensive downgrade from Jrue to Dame.

Jrue was an all-world defender, unquestionably, and there are very few players in this league who can defend on his level. But you can find really solid wing defenders on the cheap. They might not be good offensive players or guys who you want out there in crunch time, but if you need someone who can play 10-15 minutes a game and just harass the hell out of a talented guard, you can find those guys.
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Post#938 » by tedbrogen » Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:07 pm

Remember when we were all begging the team to tank and they accidentally did despite their best efforts to be an eight seed again, then they passed on Embiid for a guy who blew out his knee twice?

This is the good karma from having to deal with that, and 2001 game seven ECF random suspension of Scott Williams, and Anthony Mason/George Karl completely dismantling the 2001 team within 20 months, and trading two firsts for Vasquez, and having a wife beating drunk driving head coach who forgot to play the rookie of the year point guard for an entire first half, and winning the draft lottery and taking Glenn over Grant Hill.
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Post#939 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:07 pm

jute2003 wrote:
bucksfansince88 wrote:
LedZepp007 wrote:I do expect a semi-disappointing start to the season. But once Giannis remembers that he can also be incredibly effective without the ball, then dear god.

I am also a little worried that Coach Griffin now has a tremendous amount of pressure to succeed. The Stotts hire will absolutely be clutch for this team.

Giannis, Dame, and three great shooters in crunch time. That’s terrifying. I have no idea how you stop a late game high PNR with Giannis and Dame without leaving at least one shooter, but probably two, open.

I don’t even know who leads this team in scoring. Probably Giannis, but would anyone be shocked if it were Khris? The guy will be the least guarded he’s been since he broke out and should no longer have the type of ball handling duties he’s had to have over the past few years. Obviously it could be Dame.

Giannis may average a triple double.


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I got Khris having his best season ever if he stays healthy and stays at around 28-32MPG. I'm feeling something like 24, 7, 4 on great efficiency.
He won't get the shots for 24 ppg. If he's healthy he should be pretty damn efficient though.

I don't think shots are the issue. Depends on injuries and how much we load manage, but I don't Giannis and Dame play a combined 140+ game. I just think it is crazy talk to top his career average by 3 points at his age.
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Post#940 » by tedbrogen » Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:07 pm

El Pooch Grande wrote:Also Terry Stotts is our Nathaniel Hackett...going to be great to see him reunited with Dame!


Nah, Terry Stotts is actually good at his job.

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