Note30 wrote:Lastly, how long can you even run those limited lineups? Maybe 2, 3 years? Before Conley and Jrue are way too washed.
Exactly, 2-3 yrs before McDaniels and Edwards are in their primes. Conley has one year left and Jrue have two years left (one year PO). They are for sure declining, but both are high IQ players, professionals who take care of their bodies, avoided serious injuries AND as I wrote before transforming their games to be more catch-and-shoot, off ball scorers. Steph Curry just had the best season in his career at age 35y
Note30 wrote:As for his catch and shoot role, unfortunately given our poor roster construction and youth we need someone who can play that traditional PG role. His 3's are a positive but not any more than KAT.
As I wrote before Holiday is taking more and more pullup 3s, stepback 3s. He does his on regular basis, while having same amount of three-point shots as Towns (~6 3PTA). These are high difficulty self created shots. These are part of Holiday arsenal. Look what role played Conley last season, how successful he was at shooting pullup threes, relocating on perimeter, filling open spot.
Towns cant do this on regular basis simply because he is so big, and his feet are so big. And that is ok.
Note30 wrote:Who?! Giannis may not have a bag but he can create his own shot. He takes a lot of the pressure of Jrue to playmake because he can also take those responsibilities. Brook Lopez is a straight bucket, his post game was elite when he was younger and he has a solid 3pt shot now. Those two are far from limited, Brook may need to be fed the ball but definitely not Giannis.
Giannis struggles mightly in halfcourt offense, he simply does not have enough space to operate AND does not have shooting. I agree that Lopez is better than Gobert as scorer, but what I was trying to say is that both Giannis and Lopez are very specific players. So playing with them should help Jrue to play with Gobert. So yeah, maybe word limited is not the best word to describe Giannis and Lopez.
Note30 wrote:We were an elite offensive team before we traded for the worst starting offensive player in the league. I genuinely think there's a better chance that if we can work out a real motion offense, not this flats crap that Finch keeps running, we can turn this boat around. We need more delay action, more Chicago action, it would be nice to see empty side plays with any combination of our players, basically anything but this offense Finch is running.
Actually we ran a good defense last season, with empty side pnrs, double, staggered screens, split actions, DHOs etc. But it was a short stint of last games of regular seasons and playoffs when Conley got comfortable in MIN. There were also good games with DLo, when he played more as a movement shooter, with Anderson sharing PG duties. So I think that we (surprise!) need a solid PG rotation (starting + backup PG) to run any resemblance of modern offense. Proposed idea of two-headed PG rotation solves this issue: it creates depth at PG position, it gives us two veteran PG who can run offense and play off the ball.
I dont want to carry this conversation further, I understand your points, but I feel like Holiday is a bit underrated. I think that he is still en elite defender and improving scorer who fits well next to Edwards and McDaniels.
It seems Connelly maybe wrong about how often a top 20 player is available in trades/free agency these days. There seems to be one available every year. If Kyrie and Harden keeps on playing at a high level. There is always two available every summer 
