MyUniBroDavis wrote:^ now that’s some special level hating rating
You're gonna just hang that out there without support?
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MyUniBroDavis wrote:^ now that’s some special level hating rating
tsherkin wrote:MyUniBroDavis wrote:^ now that’s some special level hating rating
You're gonna just hang that out there without support?
scrabbarista wrote:I've said before: that Raps team was a juggernaut. I'm taking them over many teams better than 2011 Dallas.
But it's a fair point that Dallas wasn't really an "on paper" team who seemed to get "more than the most" out of its very considerable talent.
Texas Chuck wrote:tsherkin wrote:Now, objectively, they didn't have anything like Toronto's offense, they didn't have the same kind of in with a superstar like they seemed to with Lebron wilting in that series, they didn't leverage the 3 like a modern team and Toronto was a really, really good defense. So as you say, on paper, for sure.
When is this series being played? Because Rick Carlisle is certainly leveraging the 3 in 2019 (or later) and Toronto isn't in 2011. That's one of the issues with time machine analysis. We give the more modern team strategic advantages they would never actually have if the game was actually able to be played.
OhayoKD wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:tsherkin wrote:Now, objectively, they didn't have anything like Toronto's offense, they didn't have the same kind of in with a superstar like they seemed to with Lebron wilting in that series, they didn't leverage the 3 like a modern team and Toronto was a really, really good defense. So as you say, on paper, for sure.
When is this series being played? Because Rick Carlisle is certainly leveraging the 3 in 2019 (or later) and Toronto isn't in 2011. That's one of the issues with time machine analysis. We give the more modern team strategic advantages they would never actually have if the game was actually able to be played.
The issue is your desire to artificially make things better or worse than they actually were.
ThunderBolt wrote:I’m going to let some of you in on a little secret I learned on realgm. If you don’t like a thread, not only do you not have to comment but you don’t even have to open it and read it. You’re welcome.
OhayoKD wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:tsherkin wrote:Now, objectively, they didn't have anything like Toronto's offense, they didn't have the same kind of in with a superstar like they seemed to with Lebron wilting in that series, they didn't leverage the 3 like a modern team and Toronto was a really, really good defense. So as you say, on paper, for sure.
When is this series being played? Because Rick Carlisle is certainly leveraging the 3 in 2019 (or later) and Toronto isn't in 2011. That's one of the issues with time machine analysis. We give the more modern team strategic advantages they would never actually have if the game was actually able to be played.
The issue is your desire to artificially make things better or worse than they actually were.
Texas Chuck wrote:OhayoKD wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:
When is this series being played? Because Rick Carlisle is certainly leveraging the 3 in 2019 (or later) and Toronto isn't in 2011. That's one of the issues with time machine analysis. We give the more modern team strategic advantages they would never actually have if the game was actually able to be played.
The issue is your desire to artificially make things better or worse than they actually were.
Hey you don't respect my posts. That's cool. I'm far from the smartest poster here.
But do me a favor and just don't quote me since I'm beneath you. I'm not here for your combative and attacking style of responding to me every time you engage. This just ain't that serious.
I'm not intentionally doing any such thing, though I understand like all of us at times I inadvertently do. But instead of addressingthe merits (or lack of) of my posts you just attack me as a poster which is middle schooly.
OhayoKD wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:OhayoKD wrote:The issue is your desire to artificially make things better or worse than they actually were.
Hey you don't respect my posts. That's cool. I'm far from the smartest poster here.
But do me a favor and just don't quote me since I'm beneath you. I'm not here for your combative and attacking style of responding to me every time you engage. This just ain't that serious.
I'm not intentionally doing any such thing, though I understand like all of us at times I inadvertently do. But instead of addressingthe merits (or lack of) of my posts you just attack me as a poster which is middle schooly.
I am directly addressing your point. That's about as far from "i am above you" as it gets.
You routinely strawman people before insisting they don't watch the game. I'm not interested in double standards
ThunderBolt wrote:I’m going to let some of you in on a little secret I learned on realgm. If you don’t like a thread, not only do you not have to comment but you don’t even have to open it and read it. You’re welcome.
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:Raptors needed both Klay and KD to be gone to bear a Warriors team with a weak bench.
2019 Raptors are one of the weaker championship teams.
Texas Chuck wrote:OhayoKD wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:
Hey you don't respect my posts. That's cool. I'm far from the smartest poster here.
But do me a favor and just don't quote me since I'm beneath you. I'm not here for your combative and attacking style of responding to me every time you engage. This just ain't that serious.
I'm not intentionally doing any such thing, though I understand like all of us at times I inadvertently do. But instead of addressingthe merits (or lack of) of my posts you just attack me as a poster which is middle schooly.
I am directly addressing your point. That's about as far from "i am above you" as it gets.
You routinely strawman people before insisting they don't watch the game. I'm not interested in double standards
Find one quote of me telling another poster they don't watch the games. You can't.
OhayoKD wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:OhayoKD wrote:I am directly addressing your point. That's about as far from "i am above you" as it gets.
You routinely strawman people before insisting they don't watch the game. I'm not interested in double standards
Find one quote of me telling another poster they don't watch the games. You can't.
Yeah okay, I misremembered. You repeatedly insisted "you don't know the player" but that is not the same. Nonetheless that is clearly more combative than what I just said and a "it is the truth" spheal in response to me pointing out you misrepresented me is as "above you" as it gets.
On this very subject, you described "time-machines" as "fanfiction" repeatedly while also side-stepping the relevant points while calling the approach "the lowest of the low".
Keep doing that kind of thing if you want, but do not turn around and pretend me more directly critiquing your approach without theatrics or embellishment is somehow
A. More combative
B. Not addressing your points
C. "above you"
I do not respect when people apply different rules for themselves than others
ThunderBolt wrote:I’m going to let some of you in on a little secret I learned on realgm. If you don’t like a thread, not only do you not have to comment but you don’t even have to open it and read it. You’re welcome.
Texas Chuck wrote:OhayoKD wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:
Find one quote of me telling another poster they don't watch the games. You can't.
Yeah okay, I misremembered. You repeatedly insisted "you don't know the player" but that is not the same. Nonetheless that is clearly more combative than what I just said and a "it is the truth" spheal in response to me pointing out you misrepresented me is as "above you" as it gets.
On this very subject, you described "time-machines" as "fanfiction" repeatedly while also side-stepping the relevant points while calling the approach "the lowest of the low".
Keep doing that kind of thing if you want, but do not turn around and pretend me more directly critiquing your approach without theatrics or embellishment is somehow
A. More combative
B. Not addressing your points
C. "above you"
I do not respect when people apply different rules for themselves than others
I have zero issues when people call out my arguments as lacking merit. You did not do that. You accused me of something very specific I clearly wasn't doing itt. I even made it clear I wasn't choosing Dallas over Toronto or even taking a dog in that fight. I was just pointing out that looking at the history of the 11 Mavs I'd not be comfortable dismissing them.
And yes time machines aren't real and are stupid. I stand by that. I don't tell posters who use them that they are stupid. But I'm willing to tell them that approach is flawed imo.
OhayoKD wrote:Literally check what i replied to. "they would not have taken shots in 2011", iow let's make the raptors a worse team than they were.
ThunderBolt wrote:I’m going to let some of you in on a little secret I learned on realgm. If you don’t like a thread, not only do you not have to comment but you don’t even have to open it and read it. You’re welcome.
MyUniBroDavis wrote:tsherkin wrote:MyUniBroDavis wrote:^ now that’s some special level hating rating
You're gonna just hang that out there without support?
The Kawhi part in the last paragraph about being a selfish guy always looking for a way out is nasty, it basically is only talking about San Antonio since obviously he did the job in Toronto and San Antonio were 100% at fault lol (I get the “oh it’s San Antonio!” And Tbf I have some insider knowledge of how it went down but yeah if 100% makes sense why kawhi left)
“He’s selfish and his teammates know this as well he’s always looking for a way out”
It read like some hater psychologist BS, so I don’t really think it justifies any sort of response other than saying it is what it is
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
Texas Chuck wrote:OhayoKD wrote:Literally check what i replied to. "they would not have taken shots in 2011", iow let's make the raptors a worse team than they were.
I wasn't trying to make the Raptors worse lol. I was just pointing out 3-pt volume increased across the league over that 8 year span. That's simply a historical fact. And since I am anti-time machine if that Raptors team was moved to 2011 I'd have them be moved there in a reasonable fashion where they aren't 8 years strategically ahead of the rest of the league.
ThunderBolt wrote:I’m going to let some of you in on a little secret I learned on realgm. If you don’t like a thread, not only do you not have to comment but you don’t even have to open it and read it. You’re welcome.
Djoker wrote:Who wins the series between them?