2023-24 preseason

[BlacJacMac]

Keels might get invited to training camp, but I doubt he gets the 15th spot or even a two-way. He will play in Iowa. My guess is TC waits on camp cuts before making a decision on final two-way. Much like Ryan last year.

Fwiw they had the two-way spots filled (Paschall+Lawson) with Paschall eventually waived for Luka and Lawson waived, re-signed, and waived again for Ryan.

Also, Deanondraft ain’t it. I wouldn’t look to them for draft stuff.

Care to elaborate?

Dean can be entertaining, and he really does have some decent thoughts. And he goes more in-depth than most anyone since the DX guys basically retired.

But...

He loves, loves, loves his hot takes. He's become more and more contrary over the years. Sometimes his big swings really hit, mor often they miss so, so badly.

Also some people don't like him because he isn't a big Ant fan...

[Klomp]

I don't think Ryan is an NBA calibre player so I don't see the point of this.

I'd argue he's a fringe NBA talent, which is exactly what the two-way contract represents.

[shrink]

I don't think Ryan is an NBA calibre player so I don't see the point of this.

I'd argue he's a fringe NBA talent, which is exactly what the two-way contract represents.

Moreover, he provides continuity on and, maybe more importantly, off the court. I think that’s been Connelly’s goal.

[shangrila]

I don't think Ryan is an NBA calibre player so I don't see the point of this.

I'd argue he's a fringe NBA talent, which is exactly what the two-way contract represents.

Moreover, he provides continuity on and, maybe more importantly, off the court. I think that’s been Connelly’s goal.

That's a stretch given he's been here not even a full season (? can't remember exactly when he was signed but I remember he was with the Lakers to start) and barely played.

If Connelly cared this much about continuity wouldn't we have re-signed Austin Rivers?

[shangrila]

I don't think Ryan is an NBA calibre player so I don't see the point of this.

I'd argue he's a fringe NBA talent, which is exactly what the two-way contract represents.

I'd argue that's all he'll ever be and that 2-ways should be used for long-term development opportunities.

[shangrila]

Fwiw they had the two-way spots filled (Paschall+Lawson) with Paschall eventually waived for Luka and Lawson waived, re-signed, and waived again for Ryan.

Also, Deanondraft ain’t it. I wouldn’t look to them for draft stuff.

Care to elaborate?

Dean can be entertaining, and he really does have some decent thoughts. And he goes more in-depth than most anyone since the DX guys basically retired.

But...

He loves, loves, loves his hot takes. He's become more and more contrary over the years. Sometimes his big swings really hit, mor often they miss so, so badly.

Also some people don't like him because he isn't a big Ant fan...

A lot of people weren't big Ant fans, including many on this board. Seems odd to hold that against him even if he isn't bought in now because, let's be honest, Ant still has a lot of work to do.

And I disagree that he's a hot take guy. Maybe I'm getting into semantics but a hot take to me is a statement without much thought put into it designed to go against the consensus. Sure, Dean is a contrarian but he backs it up with reasoned, logical arguments. Even when I disagree with him I can understand where he's coming from.

[shrink]

I'd argue he's a fringe NBA talent, which is exactly what the two-way contract represents.

Moreover, he provides continuity on and, maybe more importantly, off the court. I think that’s been Connelly’s goal.

That's a stretch given he's been here not even a full season (? can't remember exactly when he was signed but I remember he was with the Lakers to start) and barely played.

If Connelly cared this much about continuity wouldn't we have re-signed Austin Rivers?

Couldn’t sign Rivers for a two-way, and we filled his role already with regular contracts.

I think Connelly liked the team chemistry after the DLo for Mike Conley and NAW trade. It’s unlikely that a wing on a two-way is going to see the court, so if his biggest impact is off the court, why not bring back a guy that already fit in?

[wolves_89]

I don't think Ryan is an NBA calibre player so I don't see the point of this.

I'd argue he's a fringe NBA talent, which is exactly what the two-way contract represents.

Moreover, he provides continuity on and, maybe more importantly, off the court. I think that’s been Connelly’s goal.

I don't know that continuity matters as much for a two-way guy. I think if Ryan sticks it will be because his volume 3pt shooting is a skill that the team is lacking.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

Media day will be tomorrow. Finally season start.... great to see the players.

[minimus]

Tyrese Martin?

[Klomp]

Read on Twitter

[shrink]

Is Kyle Anderson going to be wearing glasses permanently after the eye injury?

[minimus]

Is Kyle Anderson going to be wearing glasses permanently after the eye injury?

I had similar injury (street brawl), I was very concerned about reinjuring eyes, because it would make me blind.

[shangrila]

Moreover, he provides continuity on and, maybe more importantly, off the court. I think that’s been Connelly’s goal.

That's a stretch given he's been here not even a full season (? can't remember exactly when he was signed but I remember he was with the Lakers to start) and barely played.

If Connelly cared this much about continuity wouldn't we have re-signed Austin Rivers?

Couldn’t sign Rivers for a two-way, and we filled his role already with regular contracts.

I think Connelly liked the team chemistry after the DLo for Mike Conley and NAW trade. It’s unlikely that a wing on a two-way is going to see the court, so if his biggest impact is off the court, why not bring back a guy that already fit in?

Didn't say we should have signed Rivers to a 2-way.

My point is if Connelly liked the vibes so much why wouldn't he have resigned the guy that played an actual role on the team last season and was publicly noted as a positive influence in the lockerroom?

To answer your question, I'd rather they didn't waste a roster spot (even a 2-way) on someone who isn't an NBA calibre player nor looks like they could become one in the future.

[Klomp]

Media day today

I think maybe my biggest takeaway was the Mike Conley vibes. I see no chance he's traded, for those discussing it in the other thread. The other thing is the reaffirmation of how highly Finch/Connelly think of NAW.

[Note30]

Is Kyle Anderson going to be wearing glasses permanently after the eye injury?

Stat and Kareem did it for that reason

[shrink]

That's a stretch given he's been here not even a full season (? can't remember exactly when he was signed but I remember he was with the Lakers to start) and barely played.

If Connelly cared this much about continuity wouldn't we have re-signed Austin Rivers?

Couldn’t sign Rivers for a two-way, and we filled his role already with regular contracts.

I think Connelly liked the team chemistry after the DLo for Mike Conley and NAW trade. It’s unlikely that a wing on a two-way is going to see the court, so if his biggest impact is off the court, why not bring back a guy that already fit in?

Didn't say we should have signed Rivers to a 2-way.

My point is if Connelly liked the vibes so much why wouldn't he have resigned the guy that played an actual role on the team last season and was publicly noted as a positive influence in the lockerroom?

To answer your question, I'd rather they didn't waste a roster spot (even a 2-way) on someone who isn't an NBA calibre player nor looks like they could become one in the future.

A spot on the roster is far more valuable than a two-way contract. Connelly shouldn’t use up a roster spot for Austin Rivers, a guy that “had an actual role last season” when he wouldn’t have a role THIS season! However, the last two-way spot (for the team’s 18th man) is a lot less likely to be needed as an NBA player, but he’s still with the team (when he’s up here), at practices, watching film, on the plane, in hotels, etc. A two way is a cheaper price to gain a benefit from the continuity than if it were a roster spot.

All of that being said, it may make you happy to know that it sounds like it’s not a certainty that Matt Ryan even keeps that two way. A few players might be able to show something in the pre-season that might cause Connelly to give them that two way, and stash them at Iowa. If sounds to me though that it’s Ryan’s to lose, and if nobody impresses, Connelly will stick with him for continuity. He has mentioned that he believes a lot of Denver’s success this season came from their continuity.

[KGdaBom]

OMG. I just went to Tankathon and looked at their Mock draft for Next season. They have the Wolves in the Lottery. I'm flabbergasted. I might never use that site again out of spite.

[Klomp]

OMG. I just went to Tankathon and looked at their Mock draft for Next season. They have the Wolves in the Lottery. I'm flabbergasted. I might never use that site again out of spite.

Well they have us 10th in the West, which puts us in the play-in.

[KGdaBom]

OMG. I just went to Tankathon and looked at their Mock draft for Next season. They have the Wolves in the Lottery. I'm flabbergasted. I might never use that site again out of spite.

Well they have us 10th in the West, which puts us in the play-in.

Yep and I'm flabbergasted.