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Post#1261 » by Daver » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:56 pm

skbucks1985 wrote:A decent bit of information on how this deal was made from the Bucks perspective here


https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/38527348/inside-damian-lillard-trade-how-bucks-blazers-suns-got-finish-line


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skbucks1985 wrote:A decent bit of information on how this deal was made from the Bucks perspective here


https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/38527348/inside-damian-lillard-trade-how-bucks-blazers-suns-got-finish-line


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When Cronin and Horst went to sleep on Tuesday night, they were confident that they had a trade to complete on Wednesday. The Blazers and Bucks just needed to close out terms with the Suns, and they had a deal.

Here's what made that delicate, though: If the deal fell apart, Horst didn't want another team to know how far along these Blazers-Bucks talks had gotten. The Suns knew they were getting Portland's Nurkic, Nassir Little and Keon Johnson in a three-team trade, but the Suns had to get one more asset to make this deal workable. In almost all cases, Cronin would've told Bartelstein that he was getting Milwaukee guard Grayson Allen, but Horst's insistences on secrecy made this different.

Cronin did tell Bartelstein the general salary and position of the mystery player, so the Suns were able to deduce down to two players who that might be -- Allen and Oklahoma City's Victor Oladipo, who is recovering from a serious leg injury. The Thunder are sometimes on the periphery of these big deals, so the Suns thought that was a possibility. Of course, the Thunder were nowhere near this trade.
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Post#1265 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:23 pm

engelmartin wrote:
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skbucks1985 wrote:A decent bit of information on how this deal was made from the Bucks perspective here


https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/38527348/inside-damian-lillard-trade-how-bucks-blazers-suns-got-finish-line


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Post#1266 » by Daver » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:26 pm

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skbucks1985 wrote:A decent bit of information on how this deal was made from the Bucks perspective here


https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/38527348/inside-damian-lillard-trade-how-bucks-blazers-suns-got-finish-line


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Post#1268 » by engelmartin » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:49 pm

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Post#1270 » by RiotPunch » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:09 pm

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What are people going to do for an hour and forty five minutes?



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Post#1271 » by emunney » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:12 pm

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When Cronin and Horst went to sleep on Tuesday night, they were confident that they had a trade to complete on Wednesday. The Blazers and Bucks just needed to close out terms with the Suns, and they had a deal.

Here's what made that delicate, though: If the deal fell apart, Horst didn't want another team to know how far along these Blazers-Bucks talks had gotten. The Suns knew they were getting Portland's Nurkic, Nassir Little and Keon Johnson in a three-team trade, but the Suns had to get one more asset to make this deal workable. In almost all cases, Cronin would've told Bartelstein that he was getting Milwaukee guard Grayson Allen, but Horst's insistences on secrecy made this different.

Cronin did tell Bartelstein the general salary and position of the mystery player, so the Suns were able to deduce down to two players who that might be -- Allen and Oklahoma City's Victor Oladipo, who is recovering from a serious leg injury. The Thunder are sometimes on the periphery of these big deals, so the Suns thought that was a possibility. Of course, the Thunder were nowhere near this trade.


That is incredible, both that Horst was able to get everybody to agree to stfu and that the Suns agreed to a mystery box trade.
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Post#1272 » by emunney » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:12 pm

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Post#1273 » by Shaffty » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:16 pm

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trwi7 wrote:
When Cronin and Horst went to sleep on Tuesday night, they were confident that they had a trade to complete on Wednesday. The Blazers and Bucks just needed to close out terms with the Suns, and they had a deal.

Here's what made that delicate, though: If the deal fell apart, Horst didn't want another team to know how far along these Blazers-Bucks talks had gotten. The Suns knew they were getting Portland's Nurkic, Nassir Little and Keon Johnson in a three-team trade, but the Suns had to get one more asset to make this deal workable. In almost all cases, Cronin would've told Bartelstein that he was getting Milwaukee guard Grayson Allen, but Horst's insistences on secrecy made this different.

Cronin did tell Bartelstein the general salary and position of the mystery player, so the Suns were able to deduce down to two players who that might be -- Allen and Oklahoma City's Victor Oladipo, who is recovering from a serious leg injury. The Thunder are sometimes on the periphery of these big deals, so the Suns thought that was a possibility. Of course, the Thunder were nowhere near this trade.


That is incredible, both that Horst was able to get everybody to agree to stfu and that the Suns agreed to a mystery box trade.



the entire article makes it sound like Horst was masterful in this entire thing. Even drops they've been in conversations since early JULY
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Post#1274 » by skbucks1985 » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:20 pm

emunney wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
When Cronin and Horst went to sleep on Tuesday night, they were confident that they had a trade to complete on Wednesday. The Blazers and Bucks just needed to close out terms with the Suns, and they had a deal.

Here's what made that delicate, though: If the deal fell apart, Horst didn't want another team to know how far along these Blazers-Bucks talks had gotten. The Suns knew they were getting Portland's Nurkic, Nassir Little and Keon Johnson in a three-team trade, but the Suns had to get one more asset to make this deal workable. In almost all cases, Cronin would've told Bartelstein that he was getting Milwaukee guard Grayson Allen, but Horst's insistences on secrecy made this different.

Cronin did tell Bartelstein the general salary and position of the mystery player, so the Suns were able to deduce down to two players who that might be -- Allen and Oklahoma City's Victor Oladipo, who is recovering from a serious leg injury. The Thunder are sometimes on the periphery of these big deals, so the Suns thought that was a possibility. Of course, the Thunder were nowhere near this trade.


That is incredible, both that Horst was able to get everybody to agree to stfu and that the Suns agreed to a mystery box trade.


If it was financially possible I think Phoenix would've done a Nurkic-Ayton trade straight up and so as long as the other players they were acquiring weren't negative assets because they're on bad long-term contracts I think Phoenix would be pretty easy to convince to do it.
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Post#1275 » by Daver » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:20 pm

Shaffty wrote:
emunney wrote:
trwi7 wrote:


That is incredible, both that Horst was able to get everybody to agree to stfu and that the Suns agreed to a mystery box trade.



the entire article makes it sound like Horst was masterful in this entire thing. Even drops they've been in conversations since early JULY



Woj actually said that the bucks n blazers were talking for over a month.Horst is very well respected
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Post#1276 » by MVP2110 » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:29 pm

Shaffty wrote:
emunney wrote:
trwi7 wrote:


That is incredible, both that Horst was able to get everybody to agree to stfu and that the Suns agreed to a mystery box trade.



the entire article makes it sound like Horst was masterful in this entire thing. Even drops they've been in conversations since early JULY


I get not wanting to tell other teams and risk the Jrue stuff getting out, but not telling Giannis is risky AF. I'm sure Horst was confident Giannis would be happy but it's still ballsy
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Post#1277 » by Daver » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:37 pm

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emunney wrote:
That is incredible, both that Horst was able to get everybody to agree to stfu and that the Suns agreed to a mystery box trade.



the entire article makes it sound like Horst was masterful in this entire thing. Even drops they've been in conversations since early JULY


I get not wanting to tell other teams and risk the Jrue stuff getting out, but not telling Giannis is risky AF. I'm sure Horst was confident Giannis would be happy but it's still ballsy



I absolutely guarentee you giannis knew he knew about holiday and he 100% knew about dame you think horst does this without some assurances from giannis bout a extension
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Post#1279 » by All The Bucks » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:49 pm

Horst is not what many of you have been assuming all these years. Nice to see some details getting out there. Don't forget, he and Giannis have more cookin'
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Post#1280 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:54 pm

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