Where's Jrue Go?

[DC_Melo]

Boston makes a ton of sense for Jrue. Brogdon makes little sense for us so the trade parade would likely continue if we acquired him lol.

I’ve got my front row seats to that parade, so count me in! Keep the trades comin!

You’re 100% right, Brogdon would need to be flipped again, but he would be helpful off the bench behind Scoot for half a season before flipping him to a contender at the deadline.

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Riley stomached his pride for an offer. For one, the guy can spin anything and will likely frame it as the 4-d chess move he wanted to make all along. Two, Jrue makes a ton of sense on a roster that now has to deal with Dame on the Bucks. Jrue, Butler, and Bam could form the best defensive trio in the league. Lowry+ one of Jovic/JJJ + 1-2 FRPs would be an awesome deal.

Yeah, Miami and Boston really are the two teams who make the most sense for Jrue. Anyone who anticipates facing Milwaukee in the ECF should make it a priority to get Jrue.

Miami is just a hard team to make salaries match right now. Lowry and one of the young guys doesn’t work. Lowry and Caleb Martin for Jrue is the only deal that works currently. Not sure if the Heat would do that since Martin is their starting SF, unless they are so confident in Jacquez to be a day 1 starter?

Those are the two I really like. I’d also be interested in Simmons plus 2 picks from the Nets and seeing how he does as a point forward for us, but that move carries more risk.

Yeah, I like Simmons and picks for Jrue in theory. Not sure the Nets consider themselves enough of a contender for that deal. I also worry about Scoot’s development with Simmons on the team. For Simmons to be even remotely productive, he needs the ball in his hands to create on offense. That takes away Scoots opportunities to do the same and his offense likely isn’t good enough yet to play a ton off the ball (tbd).

So twisting my arm, I would take a swing here and see how that experiment goes if it were offered, but I’d have more concerns than I do with the Ayton experiment.

Lowry + JJJ + Jovic works on the trade machine. We just need to ask for both.

[DusterBuster]

Simmons would be intriguing at this point just as a defensive specialist and playmaker.

If there was some way to balance his and Scoots turns playmaking so the team isn’t stunting his growth as a player.

The more I think on it too, the more I’m starting to lean less pro-Simmons experiment. The Blazers are already taking a risk with one player who has a questionable work ethic in Ayton, not sure doubling up on that is a good idea.

[DusterBuster]

Boston makes a ton of sense for Jrue. Brogdon makes little sense for us so the trade parade would likely continue if we acquired him lol.

I’ve got my front row seats to that parade, so count me in! Keep the trades comin!

You’re 100% right, Brogdon would need to be flipped again, but he would be helpful off the bench behind Scoot for half a season before flipping him to a contender at the deadline.

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Riley stomached his pride for an offer. For one, the guy can spin anything and will likely frame it as the 4-d chess move he wanted to make all along. Two, Jrue makes a ton of sense on a roster that now has to deal with Dame on the Bucks. Jrue, Butler, and Bam could form the best defensive trio in the league. Lowry+ one of Jovic/JJJ + 1-2 FRPs would be an awesome deal.

Yeah, Miami and Boston really are the two teams who make the most sense for Jrue. Anyone who anticipates facing Milwaukee in the ECF should make it a priority to get Jrue.

Miami is just a hard team to make salaries match right now. Lowry and one of the young guys doesn’t work. Lowry and Caleb Martin for Jrue is the only deal that works currently. Not sure if the Heat would do that since Martin is their starting SF, unless they are so confident in Jacquez to be a day 1 starter?

Those are the two I really like. I’d also be interested in Simmons plus 2 picks from the Nets and seeing how he does as a point forward for us, but that move carries more risk.

Yeah, I like Simmons and picks for Jrue in theory. Not sure the Nets consider themselves enough of a contender for that deal. I also worry about Scoot’s development with Simmons on the team. For Simmons to be even remotely productive, he needs the ball in his hands to create on offense. That takes away Scoots opportunities to do the same and his offense likely isn’t good enough yet to play a ton off the ball (tbd).

So twisting my arm, I would take a swing here and see how that experiment goes if it were offered, but I’d have more concerns than I do with the Ayton experiment.

Lowry + JJJ + Jovic works on the trade machine. We just need to ask for both.

Riley will take it and like it.

[PDXKnight]

Boston makes a ton of sense for Jrue. Brogdon makes little sense for us so the trade parade would likely continue if we acquired him lol.

I’ve got my front row seats to that parade, so count me in! Keep the trades comin!

You’re 100% right, Brogdon would need to be flipped again, but he would be helpful off the bench behind Scoot for half a season before flipping him to a contender at the deadline.

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Riley stomached his pride for an offer. For one, the guy can spin anything and will likely frame it as the 4-d chess move he wanted to make all along. Two, Jrue makes a ton of sense on a roster that now has to deal with Dame on the Bucks. Jrue, Butler, and Bam could form the best defensive trio in the league. Lowry+ one of Jovic/JJJ + 1-2 FRPs would be an awesome deal.

Yeah, Miami and Boston really are the two teams who make the most sense for Jrue. Anyone who anticipates facing Milwaukee in the ECF should make it a priority to get Jrue.

Miami is just a hard team to make salaries match right now. Lowry and one of the young guys doesn’t work. Lowry and Caleb Martin for Jrue is the only deal that works currently. Not sure if the Heat would do that since Martin is their starting SF, unless they are so confident in Jacquez to be a day 1 starter?

Those are the two I really like. I’d also be interested in Simmons plus 2 picks from the Nets and seeing how he does as a point forward for us, but that move carries more risk.

Yeah, I like Simmons and picks for Jrue in theory. Not sure the Nets consider themselves enough of a contender for that deal. I also worry about Scoot’s development with Simmons on the team. For Simmons to be even remotely productive, he needs the ball in his hands to create on offense. That takes away Scoots opportunities to do the same and his offense likely isn’t good enough yet to play a ton off the ball (tbd).

So twisting my arm, I would take a swing here and see how that experiment goes if it were offered, but I’d have more concerns than I do with the Ayton experiment.

Lowry + JJJ + Jovic works on the trade machine. We just need to ask for both.

Better come with some firsts attached or I still hate it

[DC_Melo]

I’ve got my front row seats to that parade, so count me in! Keep the trades comin!

You’re 100% right, Brogdon would need to be flipped again, but he would be helpful off the bench behind Scoot for half a season before flipping him to a contender at the deadline.



Yeah, Miami and Boston really are the two teams who make the most sense for Jrue. Anyone who anticipates facing Milwaukee in the ECF should make it a priority to get Jrue.

Miami is just a hard team to make salaries match right now. Lowry and one of the young guys doesn’t work. Lowry and Caleb Martin for Jrue is the only deal that works currently. Not sure if the Heat would do that since Martin is their starting SF, unless they are so confident in Jacquez to be a day 1 starter?



Yeah, I like Simmons and picks for Jrue in theory. Not sure the Nets consider themselves enough of a contender for that deal. I also worry about Scoot’s development with Simmons on the team. For Simmons to be even remotely productive, he needs the ball in his hands to create on offense. That takes away Scoots opportunities to do the same and his offense likely isn’t good enough yet to play a ton off the ball (tbd).

So twisting my arm, I would take a swing here and see how that experiment goes if it were offered, but I’d have more concerns than I do with the Ayton experiment.

Lowry + JJJ + Jovic works on the trade machine. We just need to ask for both.

Better come with some firsts attached or I still hate it

Oh, for sure lol

[PDXKnight]

Where does Ant go now assuming we find a jrue trade soon?

I'm tempted to say we ought to hold onto Ant even knowing that Scoot and Sharpe are likely the future. Without Dame Ant played differently. While no doubt he isn't as good as Dame by most metrics I'm curious what he does in a season where the reigns are free for the taking. If he becomes an obvious 6th man he'd be scoring off the bench and expires 1 year before Scoot so we have 1 off season to really try to make some waves before we are capped out

Jerami Grant I'm pretty sure we move on before the end of the deal as well, I seriously hope it's at least a neutral trade not a negative value trade like giving up a 1st rounder

[Sinobas]

Blazers: RW3, Payton Pritchard, Zach Collins, 2024 1st from Spurs and 2026 first from Celtics
Boston: Jrue Holiday
Spurs: Malcolm Brogdon.

[Cricket23]

I think for Boston, they need to keep Porzingis, Horford, and Williams since 1 is older and 2 have been injury prone. No point in giving up picks for Jrue if you're just going to be destroyed inside.

I get the trepidation about the quality of the picks but things change fast in the NBA. In 2030 Tatum and Brown will be in their 30's and may not be on the team. They'll even be 30 by 2028 and might not be on the team. By 2028 the Clips could make a run, tear it down and rebuild, and then be good again. Flip of the coin. The GS pick that Boston owns next year could be decent. Houston was reportedly offering 4 2nd round picks to dump KPJ; what do they offer to replace him with Brogdon?

Four second rounders for KPJs huge contract that will need to be waived is a pretty unimpressive offer by Houston. He should be 2 first rounders minimum to dump a contract that bad that’s just going to sit on a teams books for 3 (or is it 4?) years.

Regarding your first point for Boston, how are they making contracts match if they’re keeping Horford and Robert Williams? I would be fine with them keeping both, I have zero interest in Rob Williams myself, nothing against him, just don’t trust his knees. And regarding Horford, I like his fit as a veteran lockerroom presence but far from necessary. If the Blazers could just waive him so he returns to Boston, I would be fine with that, but alas, the NBA has a rule against that.

As for first round pick quality, picks are inherently a gamble. As long as the protections are ridiculous so the picks convey, I’m good with whatever.

The majority of KPJ's money is non guaranteed.

They can stack contracts-
Brogdon
Pritchard
B. Griffin S & T, about 3.8 mil only first year guaranteed

Then 2 of Hauser, Kornet, and Walsh

[Sinobas]

Where does Ant go now assuming we find a jrue trade soon?

I'm tempted to say we ought to hold onto Ant even knowing that Scoot and Sharpe are likely the future. Without Dame Ant played differently. While no doubt he isn't as good as Dame by most metrics I'm curious what he does in a season where the reigns are free for the taking. If he becomes an obvious 6th man he'd be scoring off the bench and expires 1 year before Scoot so we have 1 off season to really try to make some waves before we are capped out

Jerami Grant I'm pretty sure we move on before the end of the deal as well, I seriously hope it's at least a neutral trade not a negative value trade like giving up a 1st rounder

We could get a lot of cap space by trading Grant for an expiring (assuming we also take on expiring for Holiday).

Are we going to get a free agent as good as Grant though with that money? I don't think so. Since we're thin at forward, why bother trading Grant unless the intent is to suck more.

[DusterBuster]

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[tester551]

Four second rounders for KPJs huge contract that will need to be waived is a pretty unimpressive offer by Houston. He should be 2 first rounders minimum to dump a contract that bad that’s just going to sit on a teams books for 3 (or is it 4?) years.

Houston would need to give up more than 4-seconds, however KPJ contract is not bad in terms of taking on dead salary.
'23-'24 = $15.5m guaranteed
'24-'25 = $1.0m guaranteed
All future years are completely not guaranteed

[DusterBuster]

Dammmn, ok Cronin.

[Sinobas]

Celtic fans are not happy about losing RW3.

[DusterBuster]

Celtic fans are not happy about losing RW3.

I’ve been on the Celtics board, it’s mixed. Most are pretty happy with the deal tho I’ve seen.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Not all that excited with the picks. Warriors pick will be low first round and the Celtics are young enough that their pick will probably suck, as well.

[Blazers98]

LOL....time to flip Brogden.
Dame to Holiday to Brogden to ?
Brogden is a good player. I hope we can get something decent back in return for him. Maybe a mid or late first?

[Blazers98]

Celtic fans are not happy about losing RW3.

Can we trade him back to the Celtics by the trade deadline for a first?

[DaVoiceMaster]

Cant go back to the Celtics for a year I believe.

I'd like to flip him for a young SF.

[DusterBuster]

Celtic fans are not happy about losing RW3.

Can we trade him back to the Celtics by the trade deadline for a first?

I believe it needs to be a full year.

[Norm2953]

As expected. Jrue just made too much sense for Boston and watching Dame get out of the car in
Milwaukee, just motivated the Celtics to agree to the deal. Williams can play when healthy
and has three years left on his deal at around $37 million

I still don't think Boston's picks really matter in the end but Portland now has three FRP in the
2029 draft