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shackles10 wrote:31to6 wrote:gratuitous stat-padding post
also: no Bullock; that hair is disqualifying and we're good at backup 3/4 with Brisset, Stevens, and Hauser
If his hair isn't green I send it back.
Slax wrote:I've been gone from this board for a bit. Can't believe we signed Wenyen Gabriel while I was gone! Really excited to see how he does this season.
Respect for the very low-key sarcasm. Well done sir.
shackles10 wrote:31to6 wrote:gratuitous stat-padding post
also: no Bullock; that hair is disqualifying and we're good at backup 3/4 with Brisset, Stevens, and Hauser
If his hair isn't green I send it back.
sam_I_am wrote:Hal14 wrote:hugepatsfan wrote:
That's true. My thinking though is that before, when we had Porzingis/Al/Rob all on the team, 1 guard/2 wing/2 big lineups figured to be the core of our team. Now, after this deal, it looks to me like we'll be back to 2 guard/2 wing/1 big lineups.
Before, when I figured we'd only play 1 guard most of the time, we had White/Brogdon/Pritchard/Banton all for that one spot. So Banton was really more "break glass in case of emergency" role where you could take a flier on development. Now, we have those Holiday/White/Pritchard/Banton which is still 4 guys, but it's going to make up most of the PG and SG minutes vs. just 2. So a more proven guy like Austin Rivers who doesn't need to develop to play might be a bigger need than someone like Banton. That's where I'm coming from with that.
Idk man, I'm still not seeing how there is more of a need for us to get an upgrade at the backup guard position since we now have Jrue/White/Pritchard/Banton instead of White/Brogdon/Pritchard/Banton.
It's the same group, except with Jrue instead of Brogdon. And Jrue is a better player than Brogdon. Jrue is probably gonna play 67 games and 32 MPG, as opposed to Brogdon who would have played 57 games and 26 MPG. So less pressure on the backup guards in this scenario..
I agree Hal. When you have elite SG and SF like Brown and Tatum, the back up position has been a JAG except when White or Smart slid over there. Now with Holiday, we have 3 all star/all NBA caliber players starting at PG, SG and SF with White backing up both guard spots.
31to6 wrote:shackles10 wrote:MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Hopefully this puts an end to people thinking that Al will start over White.
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"Some" being the key word here. It's not surprising, but I can't believe the amount of "experts" who pay their Twitter dues for blue check marks who seem hellbent on thinking Al will start and White will go to the bench again. White is a phenomenal player who is very versatile and looking to get a sizable extension. You don't send that kind of player to the bench when he's shown he can be successful on and off ball so the addition of Jrue to the starting lineup doesn't diminish returns.
only way I start Al this season is if he specifically tells the coaching staff and management it's important to him to start.
OR they're playing MIL.
Gant wrote:Seeing as they're not getting Hakeem in this situation, Brad says "if" (meaning when) they add another big man they'll "focus on motor."
shackles10 wrote:31to6 wrote:shackles10 wrote:
"Some" being the key word here. It's not surprising, but I can't believe the amount of "experts" who pay their Twitter dues for blue check marks who seem hellbent on thinking Al will start and White will go to the bench again. White is a phenomenal player who is very versatile and looking to get a sizable extension. You don't send that kind of player to the bench when he's shown he can be successful on and off ball so the addition of Jrue to the starting lineup doesn't diminish returns.
only way I start Al this season is if he specifically tells the coaching staff and management it's important to him to start.
OR they're playing MIL.
I'd have no problem telling Al, "sorry buddy but it's coming off the bench for you." His sister on the other hand scares me.
31to6 wrote:shackles10 wrote:31to6 wrote:gratuitous stat-padding post
also: no Bullock; that hair is disqualifying and we're good at backup 3/4 with Brisset, Stevens, and Hauser
If his hair isn't green I send it back.
if his hair were on top I might not send it back
MeanGeraldGreen wrote:They can say “we will make a decision on the starting five”, but everybody knows what it’s going to be.
Starting both Al and KP is incredibly poor roster balance lol.
Celts17Pride wrote:MeanGeraldGreen wrote:They can say “we will make a decision on the starting five”, but everybody knows what it’s going to be.
Starting both Al and KP is incredibly poor roster balance lol.
I love Big Al on the 2nd unit. Big Al will get the other 4 guys playing the right way.
MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:MeanGeraldGreen wrote:They can say “we will make a decision on the starting five”, but everybody knows what it’s going to be.
Starting both Al and KP is incredibly poor roster balance lol.
I love Big Al on the 2nd unit. Big Al will get the other 4 guys playing the right way.
Also keeps him fresher, both less minutes, and going against mostly backups.
hugepatsfan wrote:Hal14 wrote:hugepatsfan wrote:
That's true. My thinking though is that before, when we had Porzingis/Al/Rob all on the team, 1 guard/2 wing/2 big lineups figured to be the core of our team. Now, after this deal, it looks to me like we'll be back to 2 guard/2 wing/1 big lineups.
Before, when I figured we'd only play 1 guard most of the time, we had White/Brogdon/Pritchard/Banton all for that one spot. So Banton was really more "break glass in case of emergency" role where you could take a flier on development. Now, we have those Holiday/White/Pritchard/Banton which is still 4 guys, but it's going to make up most of the PG and SG minutes vs. just 2. So a more proven guy like Austin Rivers who doesn't need to develop to play might be a bigger need than someone like Banton. That's where I'm coming from with that.
Idk man, I'm still not seeing how there is more of a need for us to get an upgrade at the backup guard position since we now have Jrue/White/Pritchard/Banton instead of White/Brogdon/Pritchard/Banton.
It's the same group, except with Jrue instead of Brogdon. And Jrue is a better player than Brogdon. Jrue is probably gonna play 67 games and 32 MPG, as opposed to Brogdon who would have played 57 games and 26 MPG. So less pressure on the backup guards in this scenario..
Right but read my point about playing 2 guards vs. one. In the group with Brogdon before, we figured to play way more double bigs. Most of us were expecting White/Brown/Tatum/KP and one of Horford/Rob to start. It was going to be way more single guard lineups. Yes, right now it's the same group with Holiday over Brogdon, but you also lack the same 2-big lineup flexibility. Unless we want guys like Kornet or Gabriel to play real roles for us, it's way less of an option now.
Dogen wrote:Gant wrote:Seeing as they're not getting Hakeem in this situation, Brad says "if" (meaning when) they add another big man they'll "focus on motor."
He called them, "accentuators" I think. Gabriel and Queta can fit that bill if they are ready.
Hal14 wrote:Dogen wrote:Gant wrote:Seeing as they're not getting Hakeem in this situation, Brad says "if" (meaning when) they add another big man they'll "focus on motor."
He called them, "accentuators" I think. Gabriel and Queta can fit that bill if they are ready.
Motor is the biggest strength of Gabriel's game. Watch out, Kornet - Wenyen is coming for your minutes!
Hal14 wrote:hugepatsfan wrote:Hal14 wrote:Idk man, I'm still not seeing how there is more of a need for us to get an upgrade at the backup guard position since we now have Jrue/White/Pritchard/Banton instead of White/Brogdon/Pritchard/Banton.
It's the same group, except with Jrue instead of Brogdon. And Jrue is a better player than Brogdon. Jrue is probably gonna play 67 games and 32 MPG, as opposed to Brogdon who would have played 57 games and 26 MPG. So less pressure on the backup guards in this scenario..
Right but read my point about playing 2 guards vs. one. In the group with Brogdon before, we figured to play way more double bigs. Most of us were expecting White/Brown/Tatum/KP and one of Horford/Rob to start. It was going to be way more single guard lineups. Yes, right now it's the same group with Holiday over Brogdon, but you also lack the same 2-big lineup flexibility. Unless we want guys like Kornet or Gabriel to play real roles for us, it's way less of an option now.
Eh, idk. Last season we had just 2 bigs - Rob and Al. And Pritchard barely got off the bench all season.
Now, we have 2 bigs - Porzingis and Rob. And if anything, we'll be able to go double big more often than we went double big last season, since Rob only played 35 games last season and we had to really manage his minutes in the games he did play. Porzingis though will probably play like 65 games and 31-ish MPG.
Plus now we have Gabriel, with his young legs (played like 60 games last season) will probably be able to handle more of a workload than Griffin did last season (his body could only handle like 40 games).
31to6 wrote:MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:I love Big Al on the 2nd unit. Big Al will get the other 4 guys playing the right way.
Also keeps him fresher, both less minutes, and going against mostly backups.
also provides playmaking for a lineup likely to be quarterbacked by Pritchard or Svi or Banton (or: Tatum)
