Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 12 is my favorite thread. Out of a dozen...

[Celts17Pride]

People can throw things at me but I would talk to Chicago about Andre Drummond. Maybe throw a couple of 2nd round picks their way.

[GoGreen]

6 guys who could realistically play big minutes in the playoffs, one of them turning 38, and the other with an injury-history, is no bueno. Hopefully we can add some depth.

[hugepatsfan]

People can throw things at me but I would talk to Chicago about Andre Drummond. Maybe throw a couple of 2nd round picks their way.

My issue with him is that he's one of those guys without the foot speed to survive the playoff P&R game. He'll get played off the court. He'd be fine for soaking up regular season minutes, but if I'm giving away picks I'd want someone who could play at least spot minutes in the playoffs.

[sam_I_am]

People can throw things at me but I would talk to Chicago about Andre Drummond. Maybe throw a couple of 2nd round picks their way.

I don’t like Drummond all that much but I think a big center like him on the bench would be a good idea. Any time the Celtics play against a weaker team that uses a lumbering dude, they could insert the big guy and rest Horford and Zinger and still dominate with their wing play. They haven’t gone that route since Baynes was here so they probably won’t do it. They obviously like taking advantage of teams that use traditional centers that aren’t versatile enough to defend against 3s.

[Celts17Pride]

People can throw things at me but I would talk to Chicago about Andre Drummond. Maybe throw a couple of 2nd round picks their way.

My issue with him is that he's one of those guys without the foot speed to survive the playoff P&R game. He'll get played off the court. He'd be fine for soaking up regular season minutes, but if I'm giving away picks I'd want someone who could play at least spot minutes in the playoffs.

Drummond is vet experienced depth that knows how to play in the NBA, rebounds and defends. Celtics would be looking for Drummond to play 15 mpg (some games) and in case of emergencies. Cheap option.

[hugepatsfan]

People can throw things at me but I would talk to Chicago about Andre Drummond. Maybe throw a couple of 2nd round picks their way.

My issue with him is that he's one of those guys without the foot speed to survive the playoff P&R game. He'll get played off the court. He'd be fine for soaking up regular season minutes, but if I'm giving away picks I'd want someone who could play at least spot minutes in the playoffs.

Drummond is vet experienced depth that knows how to play in the NBA, rebounds and defends. Celtics would be looking for Drummond to play 15 mpg (some games) and in case of emergencies. Cheap option.

Yeah, if he were a FA sign me up for him on a minimum deal. I'm just speaking from the standpoint of throwing a couple of 2nds for him. Don't think he's worth that.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Celtics expected to sign Holiday to a long term deal...

WEEI

[Celts17Pride]

Celtics expected to sign Holiday to a long term deal...

WEEI

I believe it can't happen until April 1st.

[Dogen]

Good idea of more depth up front, either 3pt shooting ala Muscala, or side of beef in Drummond, but who gets moved off the roster? I like our guys.

[Larry_Russell]

I would talk to nyk about sims, but thats it.

Honestly center rotaion is
Porzingis, horford, kornet, queta

Power forward rotation is
Tatum, brissett, stevens, gabriel

Seems fine to me.

[RickyDizzle]

6 guys who could realistically play big minutes in the playoffs, one of them turning 38, and the other with an injury-history, is no bueno. Hopefully we can add some depth.

Honestly I'm not so sure Theis makes the Pacers... I think he is pretty good Porzingis/Al insurance. Pacers have Turner, Toppin, Bruce Brown, Jalen Smith... maybe thats not too many bigs since Brown can play some 2/3, but it seems like plenty. Next year of Thies's contract is a team option, if this is Theis 7th season, his minimum would be for $2.7. If I understand correctly, when a buyout occurs the team gets credit for the amount they sign for with someone else.

9.1 million is owed to Theis for this season with no future guarentees
- 1.0 million given up by Theis in a theoretical buy-out to join the celtics
- 2.7 million min salary paid to Theis by the celtics
= 5.4 million would be paid to Theis by the Pacers to not be on the team

So in my made-up scenario, would the Pacers rather pay Theis 9.1 million this year and give him some minutes or would they rather pay him 5.4 million to not be on the team? I think it could go either way.

Theis as a non-playoff guy to soak up minutes when Horford is resting or Prozingis is hurt would be pretty solid, I think.

[playa-hater]

People can throw things at me but I would talk to Chicago about Andre Drummond. Maybe throw a couple of 2nd round picks their way.

On paper I am not opposed to drummond. He certainly can rebound with the best of them. And that is an area of weakness. But I think stevens wants a perfect locker room. Would drummond's possibly be upset with little to no minutes off the bench.

Not saying he is or isn't but just wondering out loud.

[Hal14]

6 guys who could realistically play big minutes in the playoffs

6 guys capable of being a starter on a championship team. Sounds pretty good to me

one of them turning 38

Let's not use reach here - Al is 37 and will play the entire regular season at age 37. Tim Duncan won his last title at age 38, though..and guys are playing deeper into their 30's than ever before these days. LeBron still going strong at age 38. Al keeps himself in great shape..

the other with an injury-history, is no bueno.

I assume you mean Porzingis? He's fine. All healthy heading into training camp. And we were able to get rid of the 2 most injury prone players on the team - Brogdon and Rob.

Also, you look at the teams who have won championships throughout the history of the NBA - especially over the past 15-20 years. They're pretty much all veteran teams, led by vets, with lots of older guys playing key roles.

Look at he 2022 warriors. You had the injury played Otto Porter Jr, you had Steph and Klay both getting up their in age and both missed a ton of games with injuries during the 2 or 3 seasons leading up to that title. Draymond getting old, Wiggins with an injury history, Looney's athleticism that he used to have gone because of injuries, etc.

How about the 2023 nuggets? MPJ, one of the most injury prone young players in the league. Murray coming off a torn ACL. Gordon has an injury history.

So if we only have 1 guy with an injury history, I think that's pretty good.

Hopefully we can add some depth.

I think our depth is pretty good. We have 15 good players. We have 4 stars and 6 of the top 50 or so players in the league. And a bunch of talented, hungry players behind them who are eager to prove themselves.

But if you have an idea for a move we can make to improve, by all means...

[Hal14]

My issue with him is that he's one of those guys without the foot speed to survive the playoff P&R game. He'll get played off the court. He'd be fine for soaking up regular season minutes, but if I'm giving away picks I'd want someone who could play at least spot minutes in the playoffs.

Drummond is vet experienced depth that knows how to play in the NBA, rebounds and defends. Celtics would be looking for Drummond to play 15 mpg (some games) and in case of emergencies. Cheap option.

Yeah, if he were a FA sign me up for him on a minimum deal. I'm just speaking from the standpoint of throwing a couple of 2nds for him. Don't think he's worth that.

And why would the Bulls trade him for just a couple of 2nd round picks? That would leave them with only 1 center, Vucevic who is getting up there in age and gets hurt sometimes.

[Riverwalk2021]

I like the idea of flipping PP + a pick or 2 for a $5M athletic big leaving some flexibility to add minimum guys before hitting that 2nd apron. I've seen Powell, Achiuwa, Jalen Smith mentioned. Not sure what they bring to the table. Can we free up any of our capholds to create additional money?

[ddb]

People can throw things at me but I would talk to Chicago about Andre Drummond. Maybe throw a couple of 2nd round picks their way.

My issue with him is that he's one of those guys without the foot speed to survive the playoff P&R game. He'll get played off the court. He'd be fine for soaking up regular season minutes, but if I'm giving away picks I'd want someone who could play at least spot minutes in the playoffs.

Drummond is vet experienced depth that knows how to play in the NBA, rebounds and defends. Celtics would be looking for Drummond to play 15 mpg (some games) and in case of emergencies. Cheap option.

Drummond to Boston is an interesting idea. He would give Boston a giant body who's been durable throughout his career. I think Boston would be a great situation for Andre to be able to play a decent sized role in the regular season spelling both AL & KP when those guys are resting or injured. Also gives Boston another big body to throw at Embiid, Giannis, etc.
I have no idea what kind of personality or person Andre is...Would he be a good locker room guy? Would he be okay in a limited role? Those are the questions Boston would need to address before bringing him in. Also, what is the price tag? Not giving up a 1st for Drummond.

The team to me that makes the most sense to trade with is Memphis. Brad's already done business with them. If you look at their roster, they have 3 guys I'd be interested in. Kenny Loften Jr, Xaxier Tillman, and Aldama. If I'm Brad, I'm calling Memphis and finding out if they are open to moving 1 of those guys in exchange for a lottery protected pick. Or maybe some combination of multiple second round picks, etc. These guys are all solid and would give Boston a young player on short money that can play a role off the bench and give you big man insurance. Grizz already have JJJ, Adams, Clarke, LaRavia and then the three I just mentioned. For a pick I bet they'd be willing to move 1.

[ddb]

I like the idea of flipping PP + a pick or 2 for a $5M athletic big leaving some flexibility to add minimum guys before hitting that 2nd apron. I've seen Powell, Achiuwa, Jalen Smith mentioned. Not sure what they bring to the table. Can we free up any of our capholds to create additional money?

No. At this point keep Pritchard. I think he's ready to have a good year. Seems like Brad has built out this roster with Pritchard in mind being a part of the rotation.

[Celts17Pride]

Drummond is vet experienced depth that knows how to play in the NBA, rebounds and defends. Celtics would be looking for Drummond to play 15 mpg (some games) and in case of emergencies. Cheap option.

Yeah, if he were a FA sign me up for him on a minimum deal. I'm just speaking from the standpoint of throwing a couple of 2nds for him. Don't think he's worth that.

And why would the Bulls trade him for just a couple of 2nd round picks? That would leave them with only 1 center, Vucevic who is getting up there in age and gets hurt sometimes.

That's why you call and have a conversation with Chicago.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Looking around at other top "contenders" most of them are one Injury away from a big man with no depth behind them.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

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