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emunney · Post #1501 » by **emunney** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 4:32 pm

Bobby was listed at 250 last year. What is going on?

Balls2TheWalls · Post #1502 » by **Balls2TheWalls** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 4:36 pm

emunney wrote:Bobby was listed at 250 last year. What is going on?

Maybe Bobby and Crowder were having cream puff eating contests at the State Fair.

skones · Post #1503 » by **skones** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 4:42 pm

When it comes to unheralded defensive acquisitions on the wing, DeAndre Bembry is out there having been elite in that area and should be wholly recovered from that ACL/MCL by now. Though, no idea if he's even still looking to play.

M-C-G · Post #1504 » by **M-C-G** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 5:14 pm

skones wrote:When it comes to unheralded defensive acquisitions on the wing, DeAndre Bembry is out there having been elite in that area and should be wholly recovered from that ACL/MCL by now. Though, no idea if he's even still looking to play.

Good idea, I liked him a lot. Played off ball really intelligently

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ShootingtheJ · Post #1505 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 5:27 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:The 2023 AJ Green truthers are a weird bunch. I'd waive him in a heartbeat if Bullock agreed to sign here. A shorter Matt Thomas isn't an NBA rotation player. Bullock is.

No disagreement, just wondering what Beasley has done lately to deserve a roster spot?

Also, why is Green a " shorter Matt Thomas"? They're the same size.

skbucks1985 · Post #1506 » by **skbucks1985** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 5:34 pm

Here's where I think I come down on Bullock. Guys who are 16 months removed from playing almost 40 minutes a game in the conference finals don't come onto the open market the weekend before training camp. And if they do its usually do to extenuating circumstances like injuries or they did or said something. None of those are the case here. He played 78 games last year and is by all indications well liked and clean as a whistle. That said, the fact that no one was willing to trade for him and give up even a conditional 2nd rounder and a TPE also is noteworthy. Perhaps the teams the Spurs were discussing him with didn't have a trade exception or weren't willing to give up a player to match salaries with a guy making 10 million a year.

All in all, he clearly fits a need and if they pass on him then they clearly either believe that he's not clear a fit as I think he is or they don't want him for whatever reason.

crowhead76 · Post #1507 » by **crowhead76** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 5:36 pm

skones wrote:When it comes to unheralded defensive acquisitions on the wing, DeAndre Bembry is out there having been elite in that area and should be wholly recovered from that ACL/MCL by now. Though, no idea if he's even still looking to play.

He also played for Griffin.

Ayt · Post #1508 » by **Ayt** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 5:45 pm

emunney wrote:Bobby was listed at 250 last year. What is going on?

It seems they finally updated heights and weights again after seemingly not doing so for several season. Giannis was listed at 243 last year for example. Midds was 222. Nearly everyone has updated numbers compared to last year. The old numbers are still listed here.

https://www.nba.com/team/1610612749

German Athens · Post #1509 » by **German Athens** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 6:10 pm

Ayt wrote:
emunney wrote:Bobby was listed at 250 last year. What is going on?

It seems they finally updated heights and weights again after seemingly not doing so for several season. Giannis was listed at 243 last year for example. Midds was 222. Nearly everyone has updated numbers compared to last year. The old numbers are still listed here.

https://www.nba.com/team/1610612749

Where can you see the updated ones?

crkone · Post #1510 » by **crkone** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 6:30 pm

German Athens wrote:
Ayt wrote:
emunney wrote:Bobby was listed at 250 last year. What is going on?

It seems they finally updated heights and weights again after seemingly not doing so for several season. Giannis was listed at 243 last year for example. Midds was 222. Nearly everyone has updated numbers compared to last year. The old numbers are still listed here.

https://www.nba.com/team/1610612749

Where can you see the updated ones?

SupremeHustle wrote:This is the most talented training camp roster we've ever assembled.

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rayallenscalves · Post #1511 » by **rayallenscalves** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 7:10 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:The 2023 AJ Green truthers are a weird bunch. I'd waive him in a heartbeat if Bullock agreed to sign here. A shorter Matt Thomas isn't an NBA rotation player. Bullock is.

No disagreement, just wondering what Beasley has done lately to deserve a roster spot?

Also, why is Green a " shorter Matt Thomas"? They're the same size.

I'd much rather move Livingston, though I'm sure the Clutch connection will prohibit that. At least Green and Beasley have a clear skill they bring to the table. I still don't know what Livingston is actually good at, unless "going to Kentucky" is a skill.

rayallenscalves · Post #1512 » by **rayallenscalves** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 7:16 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:This is the most talented training camp roster we've ever assembled.

Read on Twitter
/photo/1

I'm really confused with what they're doing with the 2-ways this year. All three are going to guards who need the ball in their hands to be successful. And then you also have Gortman. How can any of them really grow as players if not given ample opportunity to do so? At the very least, drop Wiggs (he is who he is) and give that 2-way to a developmental big.

drdrG · Post #1513 » by **drdrG** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 7:23 pm

Not sure that Giannis has actually put on weight but he looks more muscular again.

If it helps him in the screener role and be more capable of playing the 5 on defense I guess I'm for it. As a top of the floor initiator and rangy big on defense, I prefer he remains lighter and quicker.

skones · Post #1514 » by **skones** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 9:01 pm

rayallenscalves wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:The 2023 AJ Green truthers are a weird bunch. I'd waive him in a heartbeat if Bullock agreed to sign here. A shorter Matt Thomas isn't an NBA rotation player. Bullock is.

No disagreement, just wondering what Beasley has done lately to deserve a roster spot?

Also, why is Green a " shorter Matt Thomas"? They're the same size.

I'd much rather move Livingston, though I'm sure the Clutch connection will prohibit that. At least Green and Beasley have a clear skill they bring to the table. I still don't know what Livingston is actually good at, unless "going to Kentucky" is a skill.

We gave the 58th overall pick coming off of a less than impressive freshman year 3 million guaranteed. We gave him his flowers already. He's expendable.

engelmartin · Post #1515 » by **engelmartin** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 9:03 pm

Just read that Bullock doesn't clear waivers until tomorrow, could still be a possibility? Why not go 3/3?

RiotPunch · Post #1516 » by **RiotPunch** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 9:03 pm

Yeah, Livingston is the roster spot casualty. He got his life-changing money, we did the favor, now cut his ass.

TroyD92 · Post #1517 » by **TroyD92** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 9:13 pm

Livingston is an nba athlete, AJ Green is not.

skones · Post #1518 » by **skones** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 10:22 pm

TroyD92 wrote:Livingston is an nba athlete, AJ Green is not.

Can you name an actual transferrable skill Livingston has?

Linebackers don't make good NBA players. Give me the guy with basketball skills.

Ron Swanson · Post #1519 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 10:37 pm

skones wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:Livingston is an nba athlete, AJ Green is not.

Can you name an actual transferrable skill Livingston has?

Linebackers don't make good NBA players. Give me the guy with a basketball skill.

Fixed to more accurately describe AJ.imo

Post #1520 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 10:44 pm

Livingston can't be a guy you keep around if Bullock is available.