The Brock Purdy Thread

CrimsonCrew · Post #281 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:28 pm

To return to Purdy for a moment, especially as we're seeing so many guys taken in the same draft or the year prior struggle (admittedly some with noticeably lesser supporting casts), one of the impressive things about him is that we've seen him start quite shaky in two games now: in the playoffs against Seattle and this past week against the Giants. And in both games, he rebounded to have two of his better games statistically.

Now, you could definitely argue they were not among his two best games (though I think the Seahawks game very arguably was his best game), but a lot of young guys start off shaky and kind of fall apart. In a small sample size, we've seen Purdy show a great ability to shake it off, keep cutting it loose, and play worry-free, very effective football.

I'm somewhat relieved we have almost two more full seasons before we can extend him, so we should be well and truly sure it's not a fluke. Some things that we would expect regression on, including an uptick in INTs. But as said before, so much of what he's doing looks repeatable. Especially as he repeats it.

thesack12 · Post #282 » by **thesack12** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:32 pm

zman1 wrote:
arich35 wrote:I hope everyone watched Jimmy's performance against the Steelers tonight. Happy feet, awful WTF throws, hospital balls, can't handle pressure. It is crazy to say but Purdy is better and more advanced even at his age. Happy with who we have leading this team at QB
And it struck how much more often Purdy hits guys right where they want it, in the hands and in stride.

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I actually think that hitting guys in stride, is one of the areas where Brock could use some improvement. Its one of the reasons why the YAC numbers weren't real high in the first two games. There have been several times where the receivers had to make body positioning adjustments to make catches. Last week the YAC numbers ballooned dramatically, but I think that was more a product of all of screen plays to combat the blitzes. Hitting receivers in stride over the middle, is definitely one of Jimmy's stronger attributes even if he didn't reflect that last night.

But yeah, it was a pretty rough night for Jimmy. He started off well, and placed a nice deep ball TD to Adams where only he could get to. He relentlessly targeted Davante all night, which I'm asssuming was part of the game plan, but he forced a lot of those targets when there wasn't a whole lot there. The one previously mentioned "hospital ball" over the middle to Adams was particularly bad, and he's lucky dude didn't get seriously hurt. Not only did the ball lead Adams into a beelining defender but it was also high and made Davante have to jump to try and go get it. The 2nd INT was also a terrible decision to heave it up to Davante who had double high coverage on him, so it was an easy pick on Jimmy's overthrow.

Jimmy was under constant pressure throughout the night, but as Arich mentioned Jimmy had happy feet way too often. Even when he did have time, his feet were all over the place and he looked antsy. He's certainly not a mobile guy, but usually he does a solid job of sliding laterally around and stepping up in the pocket in the face of pressure to get some space. But for whatever reason he seemed to panic on a lot of plays last night.

Jimmy aint a bad QB, but he had a pretty terrible night. Apparently he got placed into concussion protocol today. Since he never left the game, its hard telling when the hit came that caused that. Maybe that played a part in the rough performance, who knows.

All of this brings up a point about how much composure Purdy already has as a pocket presence. Purdy faced that same Steeler front, and looked pretty dang comfortable all of week 1. He also stayed composed and made a couple dynamite throws despite the Giants blitzing him at a historic rate.

thesack12 · Post #283 » by **thesack12** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:38 pm

Read on Twitter

An update to some of Lombardi's "cherry picked" stats

Big J · Post #284 » by **Big J** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:48 pm

thesack12 wrote:

Read on Twitter

An update to some of Lombardi's "cherry picked" stats

The 2 teams with the best playmakers in the league both running Kyle's scheme.

thesack12 · Post #285 » by **thesack12** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:51 pm

Big J wrote:
thesack12 wrote:

Read on Twitter

An update to some of Lombardi's "cherry picked" stats

The 2 teams with the best playmakers in the league both running Kyle's scheme.

How did Miami do without Tua in the lineup last year? How did the 9ers do when Nick Mullens was under center?

Its interesting how much you devalue QB play. I mean its only the hardest position in all of sports.

Pattersonca65 · Post #286 » by **Pattersonca65** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:08 pm

thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
thesack12 wrote:

Read on Twitter

An update to some of Lombardi's "cherry picked" stats

The 2 teams with the best playmakers in the league both running Kyle's scheme.

How did Miami do without Tua in the lineup last year? How did the 9ers do when Nick Mullens was under center?

Its interesting how much you devalue QB play. I mean its only the hardest position in all of sports.

Different day, same nonsense. As of the playmakers can read defenses and throw the ball to themselves

Big J · Post #287 » by **Big J** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:36 pm

thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
thesack12 wrote:

Read on Twitter

An update to some of Lombardi's "cherry picked" stats

The 2 teams with the best playmakers in the league both running Kyle's scheme.

How did Miami do without Tua in the lineup last year? How did the 9ers do when Nick Mullens was under center?

Its interesting how much you devalue QB play. I mean its only the hardest position in all of sports.

That's because the Dolphins backups and Nick Mullens are trash. Any halfway competent QB in this league could be doing what they are doing.

thesack12 · Post #288 » by **thesack12** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:38 pm

Big J wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
The 2 teams with the best playmakers in the league both running Kyle's scheme.

How did Miami do without Tua in the lineup last year? How did the 9ers do when Nick Mullens was under center?

Its interesting how much you devalue QB play. I mean its only the hardest position in all of sports.

That's because the Dolphins backups and Nick Mullens are trash. Any halfway competent QB in this league could be doing what they are doing.

Oh so you're saying that who is playing QB actually does matter?

Big J · Post #289 » by **Big J** » Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:07 am

thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
How did Miami do without Tua in the lineup last year? How did the 9ers do when Nick Mullens was under center?

Its interesting how much you devalue QB play. I mean its only the hardest position in all of sports.

That's because the Dolphins backups and Nick Mullens are trash. Any halfway competent QB in this league could be doing what they are doing.

Oh so you're saying that who is playing QB actually does matter?

I've never said it didn't. My whole stance has been that Purdy isn't elite enough to win a ring.

Pattersonca65 · Post #290 » by **Pattersonca65** » Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:28 pm

[PFF] Brock Purdy on throws 10+ yards this season, 22/29, 401 yards, 4 TDs, 157.0 passer rating (1st).

Big J · Post #291 » by **Big J** » Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:46 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:[PFF] Brock Purdy on throws 10+ yards this season, 22/29, 401 yards, 4 TDs, 157.0 passer rating (1st).

Is that 10+ air yards or just passes that ended up going for 10+ yards?

CrimsonCrew · Post #292 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:31 pm

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:[PFF] Brock Purdy on throws 10+ yards this season, 22/29, 401 yards, 4 TDs, 157.0 passer rating (1st).

Is that 10+ air yards or just passes that ended up going for 10+ yards?

Certainly seems to refer to air yards. Otherwise the throw wouldn't be 10+ yards.

arich35 · Post #293 » by **arich35** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 5:03 am

Who is better:
18/30, 203 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 66.3 QBR
20/21, 283 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 97.2 QBR

Samurai · Post #294 » by **Samurai** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 6:36 pm

arich35 wrote:Who is better:
18/30, 203 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 66.3 QBR
20/21, 283 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 97.2 QBR

I'm surprised a poster hasn't ranted yet about Brock's one incompletion being due to his having a 'noodle' arm, being too short and not athletic enough to go 21/21.

Pattersonca65 · Post #295 » by **Pattersonca65** » Mon Oct 2, 2023 6:51 pm

Samurai wrote:
arich35 wrote:Who is better:
18/30, 203 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 66.3 QBR
20/21, 283 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 97.2 QBR

I'm surprised a poster hasn't ranted yet about Brock's one incompletion being due to his having a 'noodle' arm, being too short and not athletic enough to go 21/21.

I am sure the first game that Brock plays poorly (bound to happen at some point) he will be back to tell everyone how much of a game manager Purdy is

CrimsonCrew · Post #296 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Tue Oct 3, 2023 1:26 am

Too early to make major judgments, but we're a three minutes away from halftime of Giants-Seahawks, and a very talented Seahawks' offense (in terms of the skill positions, anyway) has managed 27 yards. They scored a TD, but only when they got the ball on the Giants' 7. That Giants' D may be better than it's getting credit for.

CrimsonCrew · Post #297 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Tue Oct 3, 2023 1:43 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Too early to make major judgments, but we're a three minutes away from halftime of Giants-Seahawks, and a very talented Seahawks' offense (in terms of the skill positions, anyway) has managed 27 yards. They scored a TD, but only when they got the ball on the Giants' 7. That Giants' D may be better than it's getting credit for.

Well I jinxed the hell out of that....

Post #298 » by **Harry Palmer** » Tue Oct 3, 2023 2:43 pm

Big J, it sounds like nothing Purdy does can change your mind. But just for the record, several ex-NFL QBs, from JTO to Chase to Kurt Warner to Steve Young and on and on, not to mention overall analysts like Baldy have videos out of their analysis of Purdy going over game tape, and they all think he’s special. In terms of talent. And they all love his aggression. I’d suggest watching those videos, it might open your eyes unless you think you know more.

Big J · Post #299 » by **Big J** » Tue Oct 3, 2023 8:13 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:Big J, it sounds like nothing Purdy does can change your mind. But just for the record, several ex-NFL QBs, from JTO to Chase to Kurt Warner to Steve Young and on and on, not to mention overall analysts like Baldy have videos out of their analysis of Purdy going over game tape, and they all think he’s special. In terms of talent. And they all love his aggression. I’d suggest watching those videos, it might open your eyes unless you think you know more.

I never claimed he couldn't look good in regular season games in Kyle's system surrounded by the best weapons in the league. That's actually what I've been saying all along.

zman1 · Post #300 » by **zman1** » Tue Oct 3, 2023 10:13 pm

Highest qbr in the league right now.

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