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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1581 » by Daver » Wed Oct 4, 2023 12:10 pm

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Daver wrote:Do will bro lo and im hoping stotts gets him involved much more than bud did.Such a big guy has a nice touch down low cery hard to stop him so ket lopez destroy KP n kris walk around horford /tatum.We need a healthy kris white will take beasley n heue on dane.Dont think boston has no advantage

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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1582 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Oct 4, 2023 1:35 pm

Continues to be really weird that people are twisting themselves into knots, wondering if Horst is feeling remorseful about the Dame trade now that Jrue is in Boston.
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1583 » by engelmartin » Wed Oct 4, 2023 1:52 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Continues to be really weird that people are twisting themselves into knots, wondering if Horst is feeling remorseful about the Dame trade now that Jrue is in Boston.

I think once the season starts and people realize we basically have Steph Curry that'll all go away quickly
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1584 » by Profound23 » Wed Oct 4, 2023 1:52 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Continues to be really weird that people are twisting themselves into knots, wondering if Horst is feeling remorseful about the Dame trade now that Jrue is in Boston.



Yeah, it all shows me how much BS is in the media and with average fans.

If last year someone would have said Boston will trade Grant Williams, Robert Williams, Marcus Smart, Brogdon, and picks to land Jrue/KP and the Bucks would trade Jrue/Grayson/picks for Dame:

1.) Most would not believe this is even possible for Milwaukee. They would tell whoever proposed this potential offer it was a pipedream.

2.) Most of the NBA fan base would consider that a downgrade for Boston, stating they condensed three young players and a vet into an older PG (who is amazing) and a injury riddled PF.


Most are just mad that we made a move that probably keeps Giannis around even longer. Everyone was hoping and praying that Giannis would leave so they had a small chance at getting him. Having players like Giannis and Dame in Milwaukee is not what most fans/media want, so they will poke as many holes as possible....hoping along the way it does not work.
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1585 » by JayMKE » Wed Oct 4, 2023 2:00 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Continues to be really weird that people are twisting themselves into knots, wondering if Horst is feeling remorseful about the Dame trade now that Jrue is in Boston.


It really is incredible what getting traded to Boston does for your reputation in the national media, they wouldn't be salivating about Dame getting locked up by Jrue & hyping him up if the teams were reversed. IMO Smart is a better overall defender with all the extra dirty **** does, Jrue might be a smothering wet blanket on defense but Smart is like getting towel whipped soaked in piss, ****, & bees. I'll take getting smothered with the wet blanket thank you.
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1586 » by Profound23 » Wed Oct 4, 2023 2:21 pm

JayMKE wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Continues to be really weird that people are twisting themselves into knots, wondering if Horst is feeling remorseful about the Dame trade now that Jrue is in Boston.


It really is incredible what getting traded to Boston does for your reputation in the national media, they wouldn't be salivating about Dame getting locked up by Jrue & hyping him up if the teams were reversed.



Yep, imagine if Boston just traded Smart, Grant Williams, Robert Williams, Brogdon and picks for Dame. People would be losing their minds....Boston is the new favorite. National media would be talking about how Dame is gonna cook Jrue if the Bucks/Celtics meet in the ECF.
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1587 » by tacos » Wed Oct 4, 2023 3:53 pm

1. Damian Lillard is a pick and roll master who has never had a Target in the same universe as Giannis and they will be extremely difficult to defend

2. Whenever he is angry about something is when he plays his best ball... like when he got snubbed from the All-Star Game and got put on as a replacement he was on a terror for half a season... all the drama this summer I guarantee has pissed Dame off even though it's hard to tell with his demeanor you can see it in his game when he's mad or feels slighted ( look for him to score 60 on November 26th or January 31st)

3. You guys are going to have a lot of Blazer refugees over here since we can still be fans with him being on not Miami La Ny Bos etc etc
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1588 » by Dick Tate » Wed Oct 4, 2023 4:27 pm

tacos wrote:1. Damian Lillard is a pick and roll master who has never had a Target in the same universe as Giannis and they will be extremely difficult to defend

2. Whenever he is angry about something is when he plays his best ball... like when he got snubbed from the All-Star Game and got put on as a replacement he was on a terror for half a season... all the drama this summer I guarantee has pissed Dame off even though it's hard to tell with his demeanor you can see it in his game when he's mad or feels slighted ( look for him to score 60 on November 26th or January 31st)

3. You guys are going to have a lot of Blazer refugees over here since we can still be fans with him being on not Miami La Ny Bos etc etc

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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1589 » by drdrG » Wed Oct 4, 2023 4:27 pm

I don't usually like the "killer instinct" talk in sports but beyond X's/O's, I can only imagine that having Dame in late game situations is going to relax the whole team. That confidence is hard to quantify.

Nobody is a better teammate than Jrue but as far as leaders, who is better? Maybe Butler, Lebron, Curry, Jokic, formerly CP3 are in the same strata?
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1590 » by Prez » Wed Oct 4, 2023 4:31 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Continues to be really weird that people are twisting themselves into knots, wondering if Horst is feeling remorseful about the Dame trade now that Jrue is in Boston.
There are definitely a bunch of morons in the media who are sincere with that take, but I’m convinced in many cases it is pure rage bait/engagement farming.
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1591 » by engelmartin » Wed Oct 4, 2023 4:35 pm

drdrG wrote:I don't usually like the "killer instinct" talk in sports but beyond X's/O's, I can only imagine that having Dame in late game situations is going to relax the whole team. That confidence is hard to quantify.

Nobody is a better teammate than Jrue but as far as leaders, who is better? Maybe Butler, Lebron, Curry, Jokic, formerly CP3 are in the same strata?

Giannis is probably up there too thankfully
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1592 » by jimmybones » Wed Oct 4, 2023 6:14 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
Daver wrote:Do will bro lo and im hoping stotts gets him involved much more than bud did.Such a big guy has a nice touch down low cery hard to stop him so ket lopez destroy KP n kris walk around horford /tatum.We need a healthy kris white will take beasley n heue on dane.Dont think boston has no advantage

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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1593 » by jimmybones » Wed Oct 4, 2023 6:16 pm

Daver wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
Daver wrote:Do will bro lo and im hoping stotts gets him involved much more than bud did.Such a big guy has a nice touch down low cery hard to stop him so ket lopez destroy KP n kris walk around horford /tatum.We need a healthy kris white will take beasley n heue on dane.Dont think boston has no advantage

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Sorry lol wow butchered that omg what language is that next time ill type it out voice text doesnt work very well in a large truck.


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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1594 » by jimmybones » Wed Oct 4, 2023 6:17 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Continues to be really weird that people are twisting themselves into knots, wondering if Horst is feeling remorseful about the Dame trade now that Jrue is in Boston.


The amount of posts I've seen of people saying they'd take Jrue over Dame straight up is mind melting. No one in the world was saying that before these trades :lol:
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1595 » by emunney » Wed Oct 4, 2023 6:35 pm

Well, look. Jrue *is* an underrated player who *will* improve Boston. He also is noticeably slower than he was in his first year with us. He routinely gets beat with speed in ways that almost never used to happen, and he never wins with speed. He's not fast enough to consistently beat bigs off the dribble, which became a major problem for us and should be automatic for a small guard. I personally think he's going to age gracefully into a smaller role, somebody who can make some shots, anticipates the action, and can defend anybody to a reasonable degree in a pinch. Think of him along the lines of a guard version of Old Man Horford.

That's great for them, but it means almost nothing to the Dame-Giannis two man game. So yeah, Celtics get appreciably better, but not in ways that mean much to a radically more dangerous Bucks' offense. It's not about the overall differences between Jrue and Dame, it's about what it means to have to defend Dame without losing Giannis and vice versa. Their improvement is incremental; ours is a sea change.
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1596 » by German Athens » Wed Oct 4, 2023 7:06 pm

I will be interested to watch Boston’s rim pressure this year.

One of the things Boston was excited about when they brought in brogdon, and believed could help them be less reliant on jump shots, was that he provides so much rim pressure. His last year in Indy I think he was top 5 or 10 in the league at pressuring the rim.

Neither brogdon nor Jrue are all that quick, but I do think brogdon is a much more decisive offensive player, and that’s enabled him to be able to get to the rim pretty well in his career. It’ll be something to follow.
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1597 » by H2tObes » Wed Oct 4, 2023 7:06 pm

The thing with Jrue is that you think you have this incredible two way player in the RS, then you get to the postseason and he's poop
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1598 » by aboveAverage » Wed Oct 4, 2023 7:06 pm

I think it’s fair to say that the Jrue trade was brilliant for Boston. They were already a small bit ahead of us talent-wise, and I think they’re still a tick ahead of us after the Jrue trade. No reason to deny that to make ourselves feel better. Boston will be extremely difficult to beat.

Regardless, we needed to make the Dame trade for many reasons. We needed a legit superstar trade to make Giannis happy and to get him to sign the extension. We needed an upgrade at the PG position in terms of offensive creation. And we just needed to change up the team after what happened last offseason. We made the right trade and so did Boston. Now let’s see what happens.
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Re: It's Dame Time! 

Post#1599 » by tydett » Wed Oct 4, 2023 7:08 pm

emunney wrote:Well, look. Jrue *is* an underrated player who *will* improve Boston. He also is noticeably slower than he was in our first year with us. He routinely gets beat with speed in ways that almost never used to happen, and he never wins with speed. He's not fast enough to consistently beat bigs off the dribble, which became a major problem for us and should be automatic for a small guard. I personally think he's going to age gracefully into a smaller role, somebody who can make some shots, anticipates the action, and can defend anybody to a reasonable degree in a pinch. Think of him along the lines of a guard version of Old Man Horford.

That's great for them, but it means almost nothing to the Dame-Giannis two man game. So yeah, Celtics get appreciably better, but not in ways that mean much to a radically more dangerous Bucks' offense. It's not about the overall differences between Jrue and Dame, it's about what it means to have to defend Dame without losing Giannis and vice versa. Their improvement is incremental; ours is a sea change.


Mike Conley comes to mind for a decent comp, though I think Conley is better at organizing an offense.
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Post#1600 » by crowhead76 » Wed Oct 4, 2023 7:32 pm

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