Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread

[MartyCONLONNN]

i dont like Greg at all bc hes basically a child homer in an adults body constantly worshipping Riley & ownership without room for question.

That being said, he absolutely does not make his living from that podcast & Lowry deserves criticism especially with his pissy relations with local media & fans from being a face of another organization. He has been an awful leader & ambassador for this franchise.

[zgope1]

Nice to see Greg not dissuaded from being found out as a fraud (again) this off-season and still working his burners on this forum to try and maintain relevance

[Kobewade11]

I mean if your going to be part of a local media network, I would be careful how you talk to the players your essentially making a living off from your podcast.

Even if its not how he makes a living per se, if you cover the team in any capacity its wise to watch what you say on social media about players because they see all. 5 reasons guys have been out of pocket for a minute in that regard, and Greg putting that tweet out honestly makes him look like a clown. “Look guys Kyle blocked me”, meanwhile Greg will block you if you call him out (speaking from experience).

[IceColdCubano]

I mean if your going to be part of a local media network, I would be careful how you talk to the players your essentially making a living off from your podcast.

Even if its not how he makes a living per se, if you cover the team in any capacity its wise to watch what you say on social media about players because they see all. 5 reasons guys have been out of pocket for a minute in that regard, and Greg putting that tweet out honestly makes him look like a clown. “Look guys Kyle blocked me”, meanwhile Greg will block you if you call him out (speaking from experience).

Exactly, like I get it I agree Lowry has been a bad signing for us. At moments in the season were in here in our forum talking mad crap about the guy. Hell I might even tweet some disappointed about him. The difference here is I don't represent a local network of people that follow the team, or have a media pass like 5RSN does, or even thousand followers on twitter one of whom is the player I am talking bad about. From a professional point of view you can still get your point across when your disappointed with a player without basically calling him scum can who needs to be traded now.

[dean456]

I just don't think Harden's happening. He just isn't a player that fits with what the Heat do. I just don't think its a personality fit and more recently that seems more important to the Heat than the talent of the player.

I believe he's going to cost 2FRPs for whoever ends up getting him. He's on an expiring deal, we would not be re-signing him. Paying our 2 remaining FRPs for a 1yr rental of Harden would be a mistake. If we trade those picks, Once our pick conveys to OKC in 2025, we'd only be able to trade 2026 and 2032, we cant trade 2027, 2029 or 2031.

So we'd just be in the same position we are now for another 5-6yrs never having enough to add the guy that wants to come here.

If we don't trade those picks we'd have 2026, 2028, 2030 and 2032 picks to trade and swaps every other year after 2025 draft when a lot of Bam's class will be entering their primes and considering where they want to play for their championship contention runs.

I think Harden either going to the Clippers or staying in Philly.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Get him off my team NOW!!!

[Rapaz]

Send that rat bastard Jaquez to some chithole city like Detroit or Portland.

[IceColdCubano]

So just listening to some our Heat beat writers the consensus from all of them as its regards Kyle Lowry are pretty close.

From what I can tell, they all allude to the fact that Both Kyle Lowry & Caleb Martin's time in Miami are tied together specifically as it pertains to money.

Miami is not willing to spend money at this time to go get anyone if it means putting them in the second Apron.
What this means is trading Kyle Lowry for dollars on long term contracts because it affects the ability to resign Caleb Martin.
In other words, If Caleb returns to form, and is the guy from the Eastern Conference Finals Miami will just ride out Lowry and let him expire, giving them the space to resign Caleb.
However if Caleb is exactly the same player without any upward trajectory or improvements, they will try and find perhaps something by the Trade Deadline using Kyles 29M to take back some needed depth or starting caliber level player. However this would mean they will be letting Caleb go unless Caleb is willing to comeback for a minimum.

I guess we will wait and see how this plays out, does Caleb come in balling, thus we expect Lowry to fulfill his contract or get traded for another expiring deal that better serves us. Or does Caleb look just the same and we can see Lowry going out problably with Caleb attached to go get us something of value.

[IceColdCubano]

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That's Jimmy and Bam looking over at Kyle Lowry telling the young players how to play defense out on the perimeter, and that he is the teams starting point guard no exemptions.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Flash4thewin]

I just don't think Harden's happening. He just isn't a player that fits with what the Heat do. I just don't think its a personality fit and more recently that seems more important to the Heat than the talent of the player.

I believe he's going to cost 2FRPs for whoever ends up getting him. He's on an expiring deal, we would not be re-signing him. Paying our 2 remaining FRPs for a 1yr rental of Harden would be a mistake. If we trade those picks, Once our pick conveys to OKC in 2025, we'd only be able to trade 2026 and 2032, we cant trade 2027, 2029 or 2031.

So we'd just be in the same position we are now for another 5-6yrs never having enough to add the guy that wants to come here.

If we don't trade those picks we'd have 2026, 2028, 2030 and 2032 picks to trade and swaps every other year after 2025 draft when a lot of Bam's class will be entering their primes and considering where they want to play for their championship contention runs.

I think Harden either going to the Clippers or staying in Philly.

I think part of the problem is that not all first round draft picks have the same value. That is the real issue here, not the quality of them. We are run in away that makes us more likely that not to be in the playoffs or playoff hunt. That means our picks conversely dont hold much value, we are talking about picks in the 20s range with a best case scenario of being a low teens pick. That just won't move the needle in any trade. To get star players you need a young blue chip player, you dont get those late in the draft typically.

Then we need to consider the ramifications of not getting Butler help in his tenure here, Star players see which teams put skin in the game and which dont.

[twix2500]

I mean if your going to be part of a local media network, I would be careful how you talk to the players your essentially making a living off from your podcast.

Even if its not how he makes a living per se, if you cover the team in any capacity its wise to watch what you say on social media about players because they see all. 5 reasons guys have been out of pocket for a minute in that regard, and Greg putting that tweet out honestly makes him look like a clown. “Look guys Kyle blocked me”, meanwhile Greg will block you if you call him out (speaking from experience).

I think Greg is more of podcast host and that's about it. He there for the personality. He is you on a podcast. Remember he was one of you on here and got together with friends from here and started a podcast. Then Ethan hired him to cohost. He is not a reporter.

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[IceColdCubano]

I mean if your going to be part of a local media network, I would be careful how you talk to the players your essentially making a living off from your podcast.

Even if its not how he makes a living per se, if you cover the team in any capacity its wise to watch what you say on social media about players because they see all. 5 reasons guys have been out of pocket for a minute in that regard, and Greg putting that tweet out honestly makes him look like a clown. “Look guys Kyle blocked me”, meanwhile Greg will block you if you call him out (speaking from experience).

I think Greg is more of podcast host and that's about it. He there for the personality. He is you on a podcast. Remember he was one of you on here and got together with friends from here and started a podcast. Then Ethan hired him to cohost. He is not a reporter.

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Now that you are saying this, Maybe we should start a Podcast -
Idea, plus we get to see hear some of us speaking and can put a voice to the name - we will call it RealGM Nobody's, well have some us on there weekly talk about topics that we can vote here on our page, make it somewhat serious and have some fun also have random weekly users come in and give their takes and have discussions.

[twix2500]

Even if its not how he makes a living per se, if you cover the team in any capacity its wise to watch what you say on social media about players because they see all. 5 reasons guys have been out of pocket for a minute in that regard, and Greg putting that tweet out honestly makes him look like a clown. “Look guys Kyle blocked me”, meanwhile Greg will block you if you call him out (speaking from experience).

I think Greg is more of podcast host and that's about it. He there for the personality. He is you on a podcast. Remember he was one of you on here and got together with friends from here and started a podcast. Then Ethan hired him to cohost. He is not a reporter.

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Now that you are saying this, Maybe we should start a Podcast -
Idea, plus we get to see hear some of us speaking and can put a voice to the name - we will call it RealGM Nobody's, well have some us on there weekly talk about topics that we can vote here on our page, make it somewhat serious and have some fun also have random weekly users come in and give their takes and have discussions.

Do it I would support it. I thought about it about 13 yrs ago. The idea I had was a drinks champ Miami sport show. I had at least two restaurants at the time to sponsor it. I just ultimately didn't have time because of my career.

If done right it can be a career are a good part time gig.

We had two posters from this forum to have success. One is Greg and the other is Jonathan Givony who started Draftexpress which was bought out by ESPN. I had an opportunity A LONG time ago to join Hoopsworld.

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[al bondiga]

I have to say... if Martin keeps on Being the player he has been this past season, It's a big plus for any team

he is super reliable In ÀNY situation, Maybe not as a starter, Because he doesn't have many talents, But he Has grown into his own personality And is the biggest surprise since bam and herro

We don't take caleb into consideration as much as we should... Of course, he has to keep the same level He exhibited last season Which seems unlikely, If he is jammed into the world of a Starter

think his niche is gonna be, become a defensive juggernaut... Be faster, want it more and stop playing power forward!

[IceColdCubano]

I have to say... if Martin keeps on Being the player he has been this past season, It's a big plus for any team

he is super reliable In ÀNY situation, Maybe not as a starter, Because he doesn't have many talents, But he Has grown into his own personality And is the biggest surprise since bam and herro

We don't take caleb into consideration as much as we should... Of course, he has to keep the same level He exhibited last season Which seems unlikely, If he is jammed into the world of a Starter

think his niche is gonna be, become a defensive juggernaut... Be faster, want it more and stop playing power forward!

As long as they keep him in the 2/3 spot he will flourish, like I understand coaching might want him as a 6th man since he is the closest productive player we have that can fill that role without bringing Tyler back to the bench. I think I would be ok having him as our starter 2guard/small forward with Jimmy and him sharing the 2/3 role. Then you use Rich as our back up 2/3 role, both those guys are interchangeable in my mind with Rich probably a bit more capable of guarding the speedier guys and more of ball hawk.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Popcorn ready, let’s see if he’s got that Jimmy in him (pause)

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

It's going to suck losing Caleb.

Where we at with his twin brother Cody?

[IceColdCubano]

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Popcorn ready, let’s see if he’s got that Jimmy in him (pause)

If he showed up in a furry suit with don't lie to me logo on his chest and trade me or else on the back....that would be super fly.

[IceColdCubano]

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