Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11"

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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#41 » by NuggetsWY » Wed Oct 4, 2023 6:24 pm

Mr Peanut wrote:Most men have finished growing in height by age 16, and almost all by 18.

So for those in this thread claiming 21 or 22 year olds are suddenly an inch or two taller, this is likely either due to measurement error or just straight deceit.

Nah, I'm barely 6' but almost an inch of that came after I joined the army. The army measured me when I went in and I was barefoot. They measured me again about two years later, barefoot. I'd grown almost one inch.

I have no doubt some that are taller than me would grow a couple of inches after 18 -- proportionately equivalent or close.
I have no doubt some of these taller individuals grow a few years past my 18-20 growth.
But that's because I have never bought into the general philosophy that everyone is the same --- in any way.

I also have no doubt that the NBA is loaded with people that lie about their height either direction -- for many reasons.
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#42 » by og15 » Thu Oct 5, 2023 12:17 am

TheSheriff wrote:
baldur wrote:Nba is like online dating. Everybody adds 1 or 2 inches to their actual height. SMH.


Not KG. He wanted to be short so coaches wouldn’t make him player center.

I always found this so funny, like he couldn't ask not to play C, and the coach can't see him next to another tall guy and be like hmmm....so I'm not sure why it makes a difference.
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#43 » by celticfan42487 » Thu Oct 5, 2023 12:58 am

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TheSheriff wrote:
baldur wrote:Nba is like online dating. Everybody adds 1 or 2 inches to their actual height. SMH.


Not KG. He wanted to be short so coaches wouldn’t make him player center.

I always found this so funny, like he couldn't ask not to play C, and the coach can't see him next to another tall guy and be like hmmm....so I'm not sure why it makes a difference.


When he was growing up there were expectations of skills attached to a 7 footer to be a traditional Center and for mass and how effective they are doing power moves. He feared as the first high school prospect since the 70s he'd be the round peg forced into the square hole with his height listed above 7.

You also have to remember KG was the one that shattered the highschool to pro's concept of many, which the main thought was any highschooler would grow physically and in maturity. So he wanted to stem off them saying you're 7 feet bulk up because he knew that would ruin his game.

Wouldn't be the first time a big with exceptional shooting skill but a thin frame like KG's career gets ruined by being in the wrong era for him.

Thanks to KG getting lucky by being drafted by the Timberwolves who didn't try to force him to be a Center (they agreed with his vision of himself as a player so much they even played him at SF early in his career so quite the opposite) he became a big part of the reason high school to the pros worked giving solid returns as a top 5 pick which gave teams confidence to draft people like Kobe the following year as a mid round first without worry of it being a long term investment.

But who knows if KG was listed properly at 7'1" and teams drafted him thinking they could mold him into the next David Robinson and he was forced to bang down low giving up 80 pounds he could have been benched for like 3 years and called a bust and people might consider high school without college tape too risky of an investment and want them all to go to college first.
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#44 » by GeorgeSears » Thu Oct 5, 2023 1:56 am

"grew" is a euphemism for "took HGH"
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#45 » by nikster » Thu Oct 5, 2023 2:20 am

celticfan42487 wrote:
og15 wrote:
TheSheriff wrote:
Not KG. He wanted to be short so coaches wouldn’t make him player center.

I always found this so funny, like he couldn't ask not to play C, and the coach can't see him next to another tall guy and be like hmmm....so I'm not sure why it makes a difference.


When he was growing up there were expectations of skills attached to a 7 footer to be a traditional Center and for mass and how effective they are doing power moves. He feared as the first high school prospect since the 70s he'd be the round peg forced into the square hole with his height listed above 7.

You also have to remember KG was the one that shattered the highschool to pro's concept of many, which the main thought was any highschooler would grow physically and in maturity. So he wanted to stem off them saying you're 7 feet bulk up because he knew that would ruin his game.

Wouldn't be the first time a big with exceptional shooting skill but a thin frame like KG's career gets ruined by being in the wrong era for him.

Thanks to KG getting lucky by being drafted by the Timberwolves who didn't try to force him to be a Center (they agreed with his vision of himself as a player so much they even played him at SF early in his career so quite the opposite) he became a big part of the reason high school to the pros worked giving solid returns as a top 5 pick which gave teams confidence to draft people like Kobe the following year as a mid round first without worry of it being a long term investment.

But who knows if KG was listed properly at 7'1" and teams drafted him thinking they could mold him into the next David Robinson and he was forced to bang down low giving up 80 pounds he could have been benched for like 3 years and called a bust and people might consider high school without college tape too risky of an investment and want them all to go to college first.

I get the point your making hut never thought I'd see someone write out that sentence :lol:
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#46 » by MrGoat » Thu Oct 5, 2023 3:45 am

I heard Udonis Haslem had a growth spurt and is now 6' 11" so he now is considering playing next season after all
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Post#47 » by Paz » Thu Oct 5, 2023 3:50 am

MrGoat wrote:I heard Udonis Haslem had a growth spurt and is now 6' 11" so he now is considering playing next season after all


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Post#49 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Oct 5, 2023 10:02 am

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Post#50 » by Mr Peanut » Thu Oct 5, 2023 10:36 am

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Lol I initially though that was a troll tweet. You literally can't make any conclusion from those two photos presented side by side like that.
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#51 » by Mr Peanut » Thu Oct 5, 2023 10:43 am

NuggetsWY wrote:
Mr Peanut wrote:Most men have finished growing in height by age 16, and almost all by 18.

So for those in this thread claiming 21 or 22 year olds are suddenly an inch or two taller, this is likely either due to measurement error or just straight deceit.

Nah, I'm barely 6' but almost an inch of that came after I joined the army. The army measured me when I went in and I was barefoot. They measured me again about two years later, barefoot. I'd grown almost one inch.

I have no doubt some that are taller than me would grow a couple of inches after 18 -- proportionately equivalent or close.
I have no doubt some of these taller individuals grow a few years past my 18-20 growth.
But that's because I have never bought into the general philosophy that everyone is the same --- in any way.

I also have no doubt that the NBA is loaded with people that lie about their height either direction -- for many reasons.


I don't doubt there are some people who can have an inch or so growth (most likely in the 18-20 y/o period), but it is still pretty uncommon and your example is clearly the exception rather than the rule.

There's also so much variation in how people measure height, such as the time of the day it is done (we basically get shorter by 0.4 of an inch between when we wake up and when we go to sleep) and factors like the person measuring bringing the level down to just the top of your hair or right to the scalp etc. They sound like minor things but they all add up, and can add or take away an inch or so if not done consistently.
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#52 » by sam_I_am » Thu Oct 5, 2023 12:09 pm

Since growth after 18 is apparently impossible, Giannis must still be 6-8 1/2 like he was as a rookie. It must be platform sneakers then that make him seem 6-11 ft tall..
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#53 » by Sane » Fri Oct 6, 2023 7:21 pm

Moahst wrote:
Sane wrote:
Moahst wrote:The rumor amongst Rockets fans two months ago was that Alperen Sengun had grown from 6'10'' to 7' or maybe 6'11'', but I think maybe everyone has walked all of that talk back.


Alpi came in 6'10 barefoot and he was one of the youngest players in his draft (had just turned 18 IIRC). After two years, he claims to be 6'11 barefoot - which is a 7 footer for most of NBA history (they used to measure players in shoes). That's pretty reasonable. Rockets officially listed him 6'11 yesterday.

If you watch his rookie games vs his games with Turkey last month, he's clearly taller. To me at least.

I watched. He looks exactly the same to me.


Yeah it’s pretty normal for someone who barely watches someone to not notice a 1 inch gradual growth spurt. No reason you should be able to see it.

In any case, the official measurements are the most accurate thing we can get our hands on.
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#54 » by Sane » Fri Oct 6, 2023 7:23 pm

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:
Sane wrote:
Moahst wrote:The rumor amongst Rockets fans two months ago was that Alperen Sengun had grown from 6'10'' to 7' or maybe 6'11'', but I think maybe everyone has walked all of that talk back.


Alpi came in 6'10 barefoot and he was one of the youngest players in his draft (had just turned 18 IIRC). After two years, he claims to be 6'11 barefoot - which is a 7 footer for most of NBA history (they used to measure players in shoes). That's pretty reasonable. Rockets officially listed him 6'11 yesterday.

If you watch his rookie games vs his games with Turkey last month, he's clearly taller. To me at least.


He is not close to 7 feet.

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Omg dude I’ma camera expert and it’s hilarious to hear you think you can know that from a stand-alone photo. That’s funny, thanks!
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Post#55 » by ropjhk » Fri Oct 6, 2023 7:28 pm

Roy T wrote:Wembanyama is 8'23" with shoes.


6'11 sitting down



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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#56 » by zimpy27 » Fri Oct 6, 2023 7:35 pm

Sane wrote:
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:
Sane wrote:
Alpi came in 6'10 barefoot and he was one of the youngest players in his draft (had just turned 18 IIRC). After two years, he claims to be 6'11 barefoot - which is a 7 footer for most of NBA history (they used to measure players in shoes). That's pretty reasonable. Rockets officially listed him 6'11 yesterday.

If you watch his rookie games vs his games with Turkey last month, he's clearly taller. To me at least.


He is not close to 7 feet.

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Omg dude I’ma camera expert and it’s hilarious to hear you think you can know that from a stand-alone photo. That’s funny, thanks!



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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#57 » by jonbob17 » Fri Oct 6, 2023 7:37 pm

Mr Peanut wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
Mr Peanut wrote:Most men have finished growing in height by age 16, and almost all by 18.

So for those in this thread claiming 21 or 22 year olds are suddenly an inch or two taller, this is likely either due to measurement error or just straight deceit.

Nah, I'm barely 6' but almost an inch of that came after I joined the army. The army measured me when I went in and I was barefoot. They measured me again about two years later, barefoot. I'd grown almost one inch.

I have no doubt some that are taller than me would grow a couple of inches after 18 -- proportionately equivalent or close.
I have no doubt some of these taller individuals grow a few years past my 18-20 growth.
But that's because I have never bought into the general philosophy that everyone is the same --- in any way.

I also have no doubt that the NBA is loaded with people that lie about their height either direction -- for many reasons.


I don't doubt there are some people who can have an inch or so growth (most likely in the 18-20 y/o period), but it is still pretty uncommon and your example is clearly the exception rather than the rule.

There's also so much variation in how people measure height, such as the time of the day it is done (we basically get shorter by 0.4 of an inch between when we wake up and when we go to sleep) and factors like the person measuring bringing the level down to just the top of your hair or right to the scalp etc. They sound like minor things but they all add up, and can add or take away an inch or so if not done consistently.


Yah, what he said. beat me to it.
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#58 » by peZt » Fri Oct 6, 2023 8:41 pm

Apparently Alperen Sengün grew an inch to 6'11 over the summer.
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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#59 » by dc » Fri Oct 6, 2023 9:00 pm

Mr Peanut wrote:Lol I initially though that was a troll tweet. You literally can't make any conclusion from those two photos presented side by side like that.


Sure you can.

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Re: Players who "grew" in the offseason and are now "6'11" 

Post#60 » by Slimjimzv » Sat Oct 7, 2023 2:09 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Sane wrote:
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:
He is not close to 7 feet.

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Omg dude I’ma camera expert and it’s hilarious to hear you think you can know that from a stand-alone photo. That’s funny, thanks!



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