Official Spec Thread: Regular Season

T-Cat · Post #1281 » by **T-Cat** » Wed Oct 4, 2023 7:15 pm

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VFX · Post #1282 » by **VFX** » Wed Oct 4, 2023 9:04 pm

Def Swami wrote:

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Hope this kid sees the court.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #1283 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Wed Oct 4, 2023 9:09 pm

Who is Ernie/Arnie?

BadMofoPimp · Post #1284 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 3:11 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Who is Ernie/Arnie?

That Hammer dude

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #1285 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 3:38 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Who is Ernie/Arnie?

That Hammer dude

???

drsd · Post #1286 » by **drsd** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 7:29 am

Fortune Teller wrote:
drsd wrote:
Bergmaniac wrote:He is so harmful to our offense that he has the highest offensive rating of anyone in the main rotation. And the same was true last season once he got in gameshape (from December 1st onwards).

But who cares, his PPG are low, so he is obviously killing our offense.

Again a false narrative, in my opinion. G-Harris is "efficient" in that he has no volume to anything he does. That is: he is a void on offense except for the 6 FGa he takes per game.

There is a very real reason his PER was 10.5 last season. That places him at about the 300th "best" NBA player.

I'ts hard to blame the distributors, or even the offensive game plan, if every other player on the team is getting up more shots than you and you are the best shooter (by percentage) on the team. There are a lot of guys ahead of him who have no plays called for them and rely mostly on in-game opportunities to shoot. The fact is he's just not involved in the action. He doesn't rebound, doesn't assist, and rarely shoots. So what is the point of him?

This will be his fourth season in Orlando. If they haven't figured out how to get him open yet, and he's not figuring it out on his own, when exactly is that supposed to happen?

This really gets to another issue. Coach Mosley has not used his SGs effectively. Yes he is a new coach and yes his two best players are forwards, but it is in the title: Shooting Guards are there to shoot!

As this team moves to improve the SG rotation, Coach Mosley needs to devise offensive sets that are not 4-on-5 basketball. Indeed it is possible G-Harris is actually an "OK" player, and all the horrible stat lines of his are on coach. I am 50/50 who to blame for this ball movement fiasco that is derived from the SG slot.

drsd · Post #1287 » by **drsd** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 7:31 am

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Black's form is terrible, but he made the same number of 3s as Isaac and Suggs combined, in that clip. The ball going inside the metal circle is really the point.

(( looks to Ingles for how a ugly shot can be quite effective )).

pepe1991 · Post #1288 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 8:18 am

Black has shooting form of 7'4 player who thinks his shot is unblockable ( because , if you are 7'4, it is ).

Like... how da hell are you going to shoot in nba without jumping?

btw clip vise, if shooter was as accurate as Isaac, 2pac would still be alive

bigdogdylan5 · Post #1289 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 12:45 pm

What do you guys make of Suggs discussing his mindset change. Will be interesting to see I also hope that comes with playing smarter and maybe dial back how hard you play. Hopefully less of those reckless abandon drives to the basket that he gets hurt on.

jonbob17 · Post #1290 » by **jonbob17** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 12:51 pm

Magic Season betting Odds
Wins over/under 35.5
Winning the SE division +850

Miami is at 48.5 wins....had they gotten Lillard...sure...but that team is a Butler or Bam injury away from the lottery. We are going to finish ahead of the Heat....Are we going to finish ahead of the Hawks, not sure, but i think we will be close.

Fortune Teller · Post #1291 » by **Fortune Teller** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 1:03 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Black has shooting form of 7'4 player who thinks his shot is unblockable ( because , if you are 7'4, it is ).

Like... how da hell are you going to shoot in nba without jumping?

btw clip vise, if shooter was as accurate as Isaac, 2pac would still be alive

That's my worry with Black, I don't know if he's going to be able to get that shot up in regular season game action. He couldn't do it in summer league.

Post #1292 » by **Knightro** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 1:04 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Who is Ernie/Arnie?

Arnie Kander.

The Magic's new vice president of player performance and wellness. He's very highly regarded in NBA circles.

Post #1293 » by **Knightro** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 1:06 pm

drsd wrote:Black's form is terrible, but he made the same number of 3s as Isaac and Suggs combined, in that clip. The ball going inside the metal circle is really the point.

(( looks to Ingles for how a ugly shot can be quite effective )).

Be weary of the tiny sample.

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Here's another clip of Black throwing up a gross brick and Suggs/Isaac ripping the nets perfectly.

Post #1294 » by **eyriq** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 2:28 pm

jonbob17 wrote:Magic Season betting Odds
Wins over/under 35.5
Winning the SE division +850

Miami is at 48.5 wins....had they gotten Lillard...sure...but that team is a Butler or Bam injury away from the lottery. We are going to finish ahead of the Heat....Are we going to finish ahead of the Hawks, not sure, but i think we will be close.

Falling under 36 wins would be a bummer. Winning the division would blow my mind.

YosemiteSam · Post #1295 » by **YosemiteSam** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 2:46 pm

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I really am worried about our backup big situation. I expect WCJ to miss his customary 20-ish games or more. I think Mo is a PF and Goga is good for spot minutes but not to start 20 games if we need it. Would it be a good gamble to trade for the “loser” of this backup battle? I think all of Detroit’s centers are better than our backups while also being younger so there is potential upside. That said both Bagley and Wiseman won’t fetch much in return if they are 3rd string there. Would Okeke and a couple 2nds get it done?

Post #1296 » by **eyriq** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 2:51 pm

YosemiteSam wrote:

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I really am worried about our backup big situation. I expect WCJ to miss his customary 20-ish games or more. I think Mo is a PF and Goga is good for spot minutes but not to start 20 games if we need it. Would it be a good gamble to trade for the “loser” of this backup battle? I think all of Detroit’s centers are better than our backups while also being younger so there is potential upside. That said both Bagley and Wiseman won’t fetch much in return if they are 3rd string there. Would Okeke and a couple 2nds get it done?

I hear you, but for me Moritz is really good as a stretch 5, energy combo big.

mattdelray1220 · Post #1297 » by **mattdelray1220** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 3:42 pm

eyriq wrote:
YosemiteSam wrote:

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I really am worried about our backup big situation. I expect WCJ to miss his customary 20-ish games or more. I think Mo is a PF and Goga is good for spot minutes but not to start 20 games if we need it. Would it be a good gamble to trade for the “loser” of this backup battle? I think all of Detroit’s centers are better than our backups while also being younger so there is potential upside. That said both Bagley and Wiseman won’t fetch much in return if they are 3rd string there. Would Okeke and a couple 2nds get it done?
I hear you, but for me Moritz is really good as a stretch 5, energy combo big.

I wouldnt be shocked to see PB and JI (if healthy) at the 5 during some unique situations.

YosemiteSam · Post #1298 » by **YosemiteSam** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 4:08 pm

eyriq wrote:
YosemiteSam wrote:

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I really am worried about our backup big situation. I expect WCJ to miss his customary 20-ish games or more. I think Mo is a PF and Goga is good for spot minutes but not to start 20 games if we need it. Would it be a good gamble to trade for the “loser” of this backup battle? I think all of Detroit’s centers are better than our backups while also being younger so there is potential upside. That said both Bagley and Wiseman won’t fetch much in return if they are 3rd string there. Would Okeke and a couple 2nds get it done?
I hear you, but for me Moritz is really good as a stretch 5, energy combo big.

Agree for an energy guy - I'm thinking as a starter though - requires pulling 25-30 minutes a game when WCJ goes down (again). I think Mo is a sparkplug bench guy, but if he is defending starting bigs for extended periods we are in trouble. Need more size and rim protection IMO

YosemiteSam · Post #1299 » by **YosemiteSam** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 4:08 pm

mattdelray1220 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
YosemiteSam wrote:

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I really am worried about our backup big situation. I expect WCJ to miss his customary 20-ish games or more. I think Mo is a PF and Goga is good for spot minutes but not to start 20 games if we need it. Would it be a good gamble to trade for the “loser” of this backup battle? I think all of Detroit’s centers are better than our backups while also being younger so there is potential upside. That said both Bagley and Wiseman won’t fetch much in return if they are 3rd string there. Would Okeke and a couple 2nds get it done?
I hear you, but for me Moritz is really good as a stretch 5, energy combo big.

I wouldnt be shocked to see PB and JI (if healthy) at the 5 during some unique situations.

But not as starters if and when WCJ goes down again for an extended absence

pepe1991 · Post #1300 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Oct 5, 2023 4:26 pm

Detroit's best center is Duren , and has most upside and most realistic chance at being above average player.

From pure phyiscality perspective, he is on that Dwight level when it comes to freakness of his athletics & mobility for person who is THAT big and THAT strong. Guy is like 19 and his muscles have muscles.