Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Payne Signed

[tedbrogen]

Midds 24ppg on great efficiency the last time he played = not a good basketball player anymore

Jrue awful efficiency while giving up like 40ppg to Butler = guy the Bucks should have kept who now makes the Celtics favorites

[Shaffty]

I don't understand preferring Jrue to Middleton. Like, at all.

they are still mad about Khris>Jabari

[ShootingtheJ]

Jrue over Khris easily. Jrue was being asked to do too much on offense. I expect he will thrive in Boston focusing on what he's great at, just like he would've here if it were possible to trade Khris instead.

I also just think Khris is not a good basketball player anymore, and even more a poor fit for this team. His field goal % has declined 3 years in a row. His 3pt % has declined 3 years in a row. He doesn't move well without the ball. And perhaps worst of all, his defense is atrocious.

He is an iso player who can make tough shots, and occasionally run a decent pick n roll game when he's not dribbling the ball off his foot or throwing lobs off the shot clock. We don't need that now, because Dame will be taking over those duties. And I think Cam is good enough to be a creator for the 2nd unit.

We'd be *much* better off with a hard-nosed, gritty wing who will be ultra active defensively, relentlessly cut off the ball and attack the glass.

Jrue waived off Giannis and Wes only to continue to get absolutely roasted by Jimmy because Jrue was too damn stupid to figure out that you steer Jimmy left. Beyond inexcusable. He deserves the Celtics overmatched coach. I will not miss him as a player.

[Bucksmaniac]

Midds 24ppg on great efficiency the last time he played = not a good basketball player anymore

Jrue awful efficiency while giving up like 40ppg to Butler = guy the Bucks should have kept who now makes the Celtics favorites

That was encouraging indeed, especially since the going should only be easier as a 3rd option this year. It’s understandable to be guarded about his prospects of getting back anywhere close to his championship form however. There was a time last year where it felt every time he played significant minutes he was physically ailing, might be why they are playing it so cautious, in case there is still something chronic.

[soxperry]

I did prefer we move Khris over Jrue and it came down to health. I feel way more certain that Jrue will be healthy in the playoffs and thats really all i cared about. Certainly a healthy khris means this is an all time great offense. I just dont trust khris will be healthy until i see it

[tedbrogen]

They knew he needed the knee surgery he had this off-season. So that’s why they limited his minutes in the regular season and it worked since he was easily their best player against the Heat.

[tedbrogen]

I did prefer we move Khris over Jrue and it came down to health. I feel way more certain that Jrue will be healthy in the playoffs and thats really all i cared about. Certainly a healthy khris means this is an all time great offense. I just dont trust khris will be healthy until i see it

I don’t trust Jrue to not up his usage while his efficiency tanks in the postseason. I also don’t trust him to guard Butler and Tatum.

[RiotPunch]

Jrue over Khris easily. Jrue was being asked to do too much on offense. I expect he will thrive in Boston focusing on what he's great at, just like he would've here if it were possible to trade Khris instead.

I also just think Khris is not a good basketball player anymore, and even more a poor fit for this team. His field goal % has declined 3 years in a row. His 3pt % has declined 3 years in a row. He doesn't move well without the ball. And perhaps worst of all, his defense is atrocious.

He is an iso player who can make tough shots, and occasionally run a decent pick n roll game when he's not dribbling the ball off his foot or throwing lobs off the shot clock. We don't need that now, because Dame will be taking over those duties. And I think Cam is good enough to be a creator for the 2nd unit.

We'd be *much* better off with a hard-nosed, gritty wing who will be ultra active defensively, relentlessly cut off the ball and attack the glass.

Jrue waived off Giannis and Wes only to continue to get absolutely roasted by Jimmy because Jrue was too damn stupid to figure out that you steer Jimmy left. Beyond inexcusable. He deserves the Celtics overmatched coach. I will not miss him as a player.

We also weren't *asking* Jrue to take early shot-clock step-back threes time and time again. We asked him to be a ballhandler more than he is capable of, which should still be an issue in Boston. That's why I love a deal for Caruso to just blow **** up and get us in transition.

[Daver]

They knew he needed the knee surgery he had this off-season. So that’s why they limited his minutes in the regular season and it worked since he was easily their best player against the Heat.

Limiting his minutes is one thing i think playing in only 34 games is something totally different i. Just hoping this yeat he gets in 60 games thats not asking alot

[Daver]

Jrue over Khris easily. Jrue was being asked to do too much on offense. I expect he will thrive in Boston focusing on what he's great at, just like he would've here if it were possible to trade Khris instead.

I also just think Khris is not a good basketball player anymore, and even more a poor fit for this team. His field goal % has declined 3 years in a row. His 3pt % has declined 3 years in a row. He doesn't move well without the ball. And perhaps worst of all, his defense is atrocious.

He is an iso player who can make tough shots, and occasionally run a decent pick n roll game when he's not dribbling the ball off his foot or throwing lobs off the shot clock. We don't need that now, because Dame will be taking over those duties. And I think Cam is good enough to be a creator for the 2nd unit.

We'd be *much* better off with a hard-nosed, gritty wing who will be ultra active defensively, relentlessly cut off the ball and attack the glass.

. He deserves the Celtics overmatched coach. I will not miss him as a player.

We also weren't *asking* Jrue to take early shot-clock step-back threes time and time again. We asked him to be a ballhandler more than he is capable of, which should still be an issue in Boston. That's why I love a deal for Caruso to just blow **** up and get us in transition.

Jrue waived off Giannis and Wes only to continue to get absolutely roasted by Jimmy because Jrue was too damn stupid to figure out that you steer Jimmy left. Beyond inexcusable

Doesnt the HC need to take blame here FFS buds the head coach isnt it his job to 1. Make jrue switch off on butler wpuldnt you think most HCs would know to steer butler to the left.WTF

[Ron Swanson]

Khris is the most under-appreciated Buck of all-time. Now he gets to slide into his perfect post-prime role of being the most versatile and valuable 3rd option in the league. He's gonna absolutely feast off open looks and against 2nd units when we stagger him with the bench lineups.

[MVP2110]

. He deserves the Celtics overmatched coach. I will not miss him as a player.

We also weren't *asking* Jrue to take early shot-clock step-back threes time and time again. We asked him to be a ballhandler more than he is capable of, which should still be an issue in Boston. That's why I love a deal for Caruso to just blow **** up and get us in transition.

Jrue waived off Giannis and Wes only to continue to get absolutely roasted by Jimmy because Jrue was too damn stupid to figure out that you steer Jimmy left. Beyond inexcusable

Doesnt the HC need to take blame here FFS buds the head coach isnt it his job to 1. Make jrue switch off on butler wpuldnt you think most HCs would know to steer butler to the left.WTF

Sure, but Bud is the guy who trusted his players and how they feel. Bud also trusted PJ whole heartedly against KD & the Nets. Bud trusted his players when they said they could do something and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't

[Profound23]

Khris is the most under-appreciated Buck of all-time. Now he gets to slide into his perfect post-prime role of being the most versatile and valuable 3rd option in the league. He's gonna absolutely feast off open looks and against 2nd units when we stagger him with the bench lineups.

Yes, if he can stay healthy...Khris will definitely be the best third option in the league. I just really, really hope he can stay healthy.

[blazza18]

I don't want to bad mouth Jrue and we'll see how different he will be playing in Boston but I do think we might have gotten off him at the right time.

[Daver]

We also weren't *asking* Jrue to take early shot-clock step-back threes time and time again. We asked him to be a ballhandler more than he is capable of, which should still be an issue in Boston. That's why I love a deal for Caruso to just blow **** up and get us in transition.

Jrue waived off Giannis and Wes only to continue to get absolutely roasted by Jimmy because Jrue was too damn stupid to figure out that you steer Jimmy left. Beyond inexcusable

Doesnt the HC need to take blame here FFS buds the head coach isnt it his job to 1. Make jrue switch off on butler wpuldnt you think most HCs would know to steer butler to the left.WTF

Sure, but Bud is the guy who trusted his players and how they feel. Bud also trusted PJ whole heartedly against KD & the Nets. Bud trusted his players when they said they could do something and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't

Not saying anything bout trust but everyone including grandmas saw jrue was getting cutb stomped most coaches call TO n make a adjustment dont tell me spo ir pop wouldnt of.Bud didnt do anything he abdolutely should of put someone else on butler but nope juat stood there with his arms folded and watched the massacre

[MVP2110]

Jrue waived off Giannis and Wes only to continue to get absolutely roasted by Jimmy because Jrue was too damn stupid to figure out that you steer Jimmy left. Beyond inexcusable

Doesnt the HC need to take blame here FFS buds the head coach isnt it his job to 1. Make jrue switch off on butler wpuldnt you think most HCs would know to steer butler to the left.WTF

Sure, but Bud is the guy who trusted his players and how they feel. Bud also trusted PJ whole heartedly against KD & the Nets. Bud trusted his players when they said they could do something and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't

Not saying anything bout trust but everyone including grandmas saw jrue was getting cutb stomped most coaches call TO n make a adjustment dont tell me spo ir pop wouldnt of.Bud didnt do anything he abdolutely should of put someone else on butler but nope juat stood there with his arms folded and watched the massacre

And Bud did the same thing when KD was putting 50 up on PJ. Bud trusted PJ & he trusted Jrue. I'm not saying it was right or wrong, just that as with most cases these things aren't always black & white

[rilamann]

Khris is the most under-appreciated Buck of all-time. Now he gets to slide into his perfect post-prime role of being the most versatile and valuable 3rd option in the league. He's gonna absolutely feast off open looks and against 2nd units when we stagger him with the bench lineups.

The Dame trade was huge for us on so many levels.

Khris' role now reminds me of one my favorite Charles Barkley quotes because it's so true. The game of basketball is easy and when you play with great players, it's even easier.


Although according to the national media we shouldn't even bother showing up because the Celtics got Jrue.

[mcfromage]

I did prefer we move Khris over Jrue and it came down to health. I feel way more certain that Jrue will be healthy in the playoffs and thats really all i cared about. Certainly a healthy khris means this is an all time great offense. I just dont trust khris will be healthy until i see it

I agree with this. If I’m Horsty I might kick the tires on some Khris deals if he has a productive stretch at some point. What could he net us? I think he becomes eligible to be dealt soon?

[emunney]

Khris is going to be the last player to wear 22 for this franchise. He's got a cadre of vocal haters because he's a 6-8 wing whose dunks are rare and don't feel like dunks should.

[rilamann]

I don't want to bad mouth Jrue and we'll see how different he will be playing in Boston but I do think we might have gotten off him at the right time.

Will be interesting to see if Jimmy Butler still has possession of Jrue's soul once the games start in 2 weeks.