Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread

[dshearn]

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Jovic going to be so good this year

Right in the pocket in perfect motion, ahead of the player with correct timing away from the defender....gotta love it.

Wouldn’t it be great that the growth of point-forward Jovic leads to a better use of Herro? Imagine Herro in more of a DRob set where he is moving around screens catching and shooting or catching and initiating an attack to the basket!? We still have Herro in a high usage role, but coming off of action plays rather than giving him the ball to either set up or create opportunities.

I would love to see a non-stop motor Herro run his tail off on offense...keep him engaged and help him set an internal tempo.

If he is blasting around on offense at full speed and either shooting or dishing quickly...it should help curb that stuck in molasses let me dribble out the clock stuff we see from time to time.

Say what you will about Duncan, but the dude does work his tail off moving around....would love to see that duplicated by Herro.


Side note....looks like we got two Bigs that can suck guys out of the paint and dish the ball from the inside out... this should be fun ....and if the always promised, never delivered Bam 3 point threat is actually real this year....well....we should see an uptick in space around the basket.

[dshearn]

Our single greatest problem last year was scoring, more specifically 3 point scoring. With that in mind, having lost Strus, that should open up for Duncan and give him the absolute green light that he used to have. If Duncan has a bounce back year, like a true bounce back year, with both his scoring and percentage, we go to a different level. If you add productive and efficient 3 point shooting from Herro and Richardson, then we may actually have something here that’s worth a damn.

Last off season appeared to be the "attack the basket" work.....

With any luck, this off season was the "let me see how great I can be at 3 pointers" work


Let's hope

[Pokuokic]

I'm giving people 1 preseason game to sign up to the Official Bulk Jovic Train if you don't see it by than it's already to late and you will be ostracized .

[VaDe255]

I'm not very high on Bam shooting 3s.
He is still young and there is no reason to go there yet, maybe he can do it later in his career.

What I would like is to see an aggressive Bam, who attacks the basket more often instead of settling for middies, that would be more impactful than him trying to shoot 3s on a below average efficiency.

[twix2500]

I'm not very high on Bam shooting 3s.
He is still young and there is no reason to go there yet, maybe he can do it later in his career.

What I would like is to see an aggressive Bam, who attacks the basket more often instead of settling for middies, that would be more impactful than him trying to shoot 3s on a below average efficiency.

He has to establish the mid rangers others his defender who is usually bigger than him will sag back to defend the rim. Which leads to him getting shot easily defended or he gets a offensive foul. Draw the defender out then attack the rim.

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[contract]

Right in the pocket in perfect motion, ahead of the player with correct timing away from the defender....gotta love it.

Wouldn’t it be great that the growth of point-forward Jovic leads to a better use of Herro? Imagine Herro in more of a DRob set where he is moving around screens catching and shooting or catching and initiating an attack to the basket!? We still have Herro in a high usage role, but coming off of action plays rather than giving him the ball to either set up or create opportunities.

I would love to see a non-stop motor Herro run his tail off on offense...keep him engaged and help him set an internal tempo.

If he is blasting around on offense at full speed and either shooting or dishing quickly...it should help curb that stuck in molasses let me dribble out the clock stuff we see from time to time.

Say what you will about Duncan, but the dude does work his tail off moving around....would love to see that duplicated by Herro.


Side note....looks like we got two Bigs that can suck guys out of the paint and dish the ball from the inside out... this should be fun ....and if the always promised, never delivered Bam 3 point threat is actually real this year....well....we should see an uptick in space around the basket.

Herro doesn't want to be Duncan Robinson. He has no reason to accept that type of role when he's been encouraged to play like a star for 4 years. The time to tame Herro was before he got rewarded for leading the team in shot attempts.

[IceColdCubano]

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So based on this video and the one from yesterday it confirms exactly what I thought. The guys wearing Blue are all coaching staff, the guys wearing red are all fighting for a spot on the rotation or bench. The guys wearing black are locked starters, based on the videos of training camp only the following are wearing black when their mixed in together with Red that I saw. Jimmy, Bam, Rich, Herro, that's it. Nobody else has dawned the solid black so the PF spot is still in play. The one video with Jovic to Herro pass was them wearing Grey that lineup had Herro, Rich, Jovic, Bam but the 5th guy wasn't shown, this is leading to perhaps them really giving Jovic the eye test here before they go experiment in preseason.

[wade44]

I'm not very high on Bam shooting 3s.
He is still young and there is no reason to go there yet, maybe he can do it later in his career.

What I would like is to see an aggressive Bam, who attacks the basket more often instead of settling for middies, that would be more impactful than him trying to shoot 3s on a below average efficiency.

Bam shooting 3s would open up the offense so much more. His issue with attacking the paint is that he’s scared of contact sometimes

[greg4012]

Good Tyler interview piece. Showing a lot of maturity with his responses--except trying to claim he was a "top 3" player on the Heat in the bubble playoffs lol. He def had great moments tho.

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/coup-creator-tyler-herro-interview-2023-training-camp

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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There’s a lot of media guys pushing Harden to Miami over the last week or so

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

We could do it. Would be easy to sell Harden on revamping his image, striving to be a champion and win a ring, etc.

And he would be cheap to acquire (relatively to other stars).

[IceColdCubano]

We could do it. Would be easy to sell Harden on revamping his image, striving to be a champion and win a ring, etc.

And he would be cheap to acquire (relatively to other stars).

The thing about Harden that although he is a guard on the later side of age unlike Lowry, he is way bigger/stronger, tends to get to the free throw line, and has way better handles, passing instincts. The biggest issue is, well will you resign with Miami at a team friendly deal, if not then no reason to send off Assets to get you. If you want to revamp your image here and hit free agency, well then it should only cost us an Expiring deal in Lowry, and couple of second round picks or swaps at most. Unless I get commitments for resigning and be ok with a specific number right now, I don't move a single pick for him.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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This is what I’ve been saying, you don’t like the trade rumors then take another step and make yourself untouchable like Bam and Jimmy. 25-5-5 is doable if you just increase last years efficiency

[MiamiLoyal926]

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This is what I’ve been saying, you don’t like the trade rumors then take another step and make yourself untouchable like Bam and Jimmy. 25-5-5 is doable if you just increase last years efficiency

Agreed. This is the attitude we needed him to take!

Being on the trade block can go both ways, and he seems to be taking it as a challenge to prove why he is the guy who should not be on the block, but instead built around along with Bam. Can’t lie, but training camp is trending in the right direction for us after a long summer of disappointment.

Would be great if missing out on Dame pans out to be a blessing in disguise!

[IceColdCubano]

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This is what I’ve been saying, you don’t like the trade rumors then take another step and make yourself untouchable like Bam and Jimmy. 25-5-5 is doable if you just increase last years efficiency

Agreed. This is the attitude we needed him to take!

Being on the trade block can go both ways, and he seems to be taking it as a challenge to prove why he is the guy who should not be on the block, but instead built around along with Bam. Can’t lie, but training camp is trending in the right direction for us after a long summer of disappointment.

Would be great if missing out on Dame pans out to be a blessing in disguise!

Well improving efficiency is one way, also getting to the line is another. Problem is he like a lot of young skilled guards haven't learned the Vet savvy of getting players to bite on pump fakes, and force people to close out hard on you. Its a skill he needs to improve even without efficiency he could hit 25ppg based on his shot chart from last year if he would upgrade that skill. Also increasing his 3pt shot quantity in itself elevates his PPG.

[MiamiLoyal926]

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This is what I’ve been saying, you don’t like the trade rumors then take another step and make yourself untouchable like Bam and Jimmy. 25-5-5 is doable if you just increase last years efficiency

Agreed. This is the attitude we needed him to take!

Being on the trade block can go both ways, and he seems to be taking it as a challenge to prove why he is the guy who should not be on the block, but instead built around along with Bam. Can’t lie, but training camp is trending in the right direction for us after a long summer of disappointment.

Would be great if missing out on Dame pans out to be a blessing in disguise!

Well improving efficiency is one way, also getting to the line is another. Problem is he like a lot of young skilled guards haven't learned the Vet savvy of getting players to bite on pump fakes, and force people to close out hard on you. Its a skill he needs to improve even without efficiency he could hit 25ppg based on his shot chart from last year if he would upgrade that skill. Also increasing his 3pt shot quantity in itself elevates his PPG.

So the three keys to his success:
1. Increased efficiency
2. Increased contact hunting
3. Increased action and activity off the ball to get himself into spots where the defense is vulnerable.(This can help increase his efficiency and contact hunting as it should get him more open shots and defenders more out of control trying to recover)

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Please Pat!!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Changing the narrative on Harden like we did Jimmy would truly be a real testament to Heat Culture and our environment

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Agreed. This is the attitude we needed him to take!

Being on the trade block can go both ways, and he seems to be taking it as a challenge to prove why he is the guy who should not be on the block, but instead built around along with Bam. Can’t lie, but training camp is trending in the right direction for us after a long summer of disappointment.

Would be great if missing out on Dame pans out to be a blessing in disguise!

Well improving efficiency is one way, also getting to the line is another. Problem is he like a lot of young skilled guards haven't learned the Vet savvy of getting players to bite on pump fakes, and force people to close out hard on you. Its a skill he needs to improve even without efficiency he could hit 25ppg based on his shot chart from last year if he would upgrade that skill. Also increasing his 3pt shot quantity in itself elevates his PPG.

So the three keys to his success:
1. Increased efficiency
2. Increased contact hunting
3. Increased action and activity off the ball to get himself into spots where the defense is vulnerable.(This can help increase his efficiency and contact hunting as it should get him more open shots and defenders more out of control trying to recover)

Increasing efficiency and getting to the line more go hand in hand really. Increasing efficiency alone will have the narratives around him change quite a bit.