The Brock Purdy Thread

[Pattersonca65]

Call me crazy, but I don't think any reasonable, objective person can realistically argue at this point that Daniel and Mac Jones are better QBs than Brock Purdy. To say nothing of Deshaun Watson, Ryan Tannehill, Russell Wilson, etc.

Ruiz watches a ton of QB film. He knows what he's talking about.

Lmao. Maybe he watches it stoned

[Big J]

This is how people who are objective rank Purdy against the other QBs in the league.

https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings

Lmao!!!!!! What a clown. Kyler Murray and Tom.Brady among others. What part of the funny pages did you pull this from?

The Ringer is one of the largest and most respected sports sites on the net.

[Pattersonca65]

This is how people who are objective rank Purdy against the other QBs in the league.

https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings

Lmao!!!!!! What a clown. Kyler Murray and Tom.Brady among others. What part of the funny pages did you pull this from?

The Ringer is one of the largest and most respected sports sites on the net.

Sure. And the top ten includes Tom Brady. Maybe this writer should add Joe Montana and Dan Marino while he is at it.

[Big J]

Lmao!!!!!! What a clown. Kyler Murray and Tom.Brady among others. What part of the funny pages did you pull this from?

The Ringer is one of the largest and most respected sports sites on the net.

Sure. And the top ten includes Tom Brady. Maybe this writer should add Joe Montana and Dan Marino while he is at it.

Tom Brady has played within the last year, and he’s already unretired once before.

[Pattersonca65]

The Ringer is one of the largest and most respected sports sites on the net.

Sure. And the top ten includes Tom Brady. Maybe this writer should add Joe Montana and Dan Marino while he is at it.

Tom Brady has played within the last year, and he’s already unretired once before.

Lol. Tom Brady never played for the Raiders
Was never going to play for the Raiders. And he had Geno Smith in the Top Ten and where he has Daniel Jones. Lol. What a clown

[arich35]

The Ringer is one of the largest and most respected sports sites on the net.

Sure. And the top ten includes Tom Brady. Maybe this writer should add Joe Montana and Dan Marino while he is at it.

Tom Brady has played within the last year, and he’s already unretired once before.

And Daniel Jones played on Monday and looked like one of the worst QBs in the league. This dude has no idea what he is talking about, he just wants a place to put his cool little graphics and get mad 49er fans to click and talk about his ****. Apparently you don't know how media works

[Pattersonca65]

Sure. And the top ten includes Tom Brady. Maybe this writer should add Joe Montana and Dan Marino while he is at it.

Tom Brady has played within the last year, and he’s already unretired once before.

And Daniel Jones played on Monday and looked like one of the worst QBs in the league. This dude has no idea what he is talking about, he just wants a place to put his cool little graphics and get mad 49er fans to click and talk about his ****. Apparently you don't know how media works

The guy is a running joke online. Purdy must be thought of fairly highly these days if one is down to using this as a reference

[Big J]

Sure. And the top ten includes Tom Brady. Maybe this writer should add Joe Montana and Dan Marino while he is at it.

Tom Brady has played within the last year, and he’s already unretired once before.

Lol. Tom Brady never played for the Raiders
Was never going to play for the Raiders. And he had Geno Smith in the Top Ten and where he has Daniel Jones. Lol. What a clown

Lots of people have Geno above Purdy. Get outside of your little echo chamber for a minute.

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[CrimsonCrew]

It vindicates that I'm not just making **** up, and that there are respected media members who are seeing the same things that I am.

Was anyone disputing that there are plenty of people who see the same things you do?

Out of curiosity, do you think Daniel Jones is better than Brock Purdy?

Daniel Jones sucks, but he has a better arm and legs than Purdy, so I get why he's ranked above him. He also won a playoff game last year with that terrible Giants team.

Except that's an objectively dumb way to evaluate QBs. It is absolutely fair to question Purdy's ultimate upside because of his limited physical tools. But any ranking of a QB's present ability should prioritize other things (accuracy, awareness, vision, pocket presence, etc.) well ahead of just plain "arm strength." For example, Matt Stafford is a very good QB, but the thought of putting him in the Brady/Manning category is laughable despite his clearly superior arm strength.

Once you meet a certain threshold of physical ability, other things became far more important to elite QB play. So far, Purdy appears to check pretty much every one of those boxes. At present, he is playing like a top-10 QB easily. Frankly quite a bit higher than that. Ranking him at 25 is pretty indefensible.

Oh, and if he is ranking based on arm strength and running ability, Justin Fields should probably be top-5 instead of 28.

[thesack12]

Tom Brady has played within the last year, and he’s already unretired once before.

Lol. Tom Brady never played for the Raiders
Was never going to play for the Raiders. And he had Geno Smith in the Top Ten and where he has Daniel Jones. Lol. What a clown

Lots of people have Geno above Purdy. Get outside of your little echo chamber for a minute.

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Isn't your biggest concern with Purdy is your belief that he will struggle to win Playoff games against a good defense?

How many playoff games has Geno Smith won against a good defense? Hell how many playoff games has he ever even played in?
Spoiler alert: He has played in 1 playoff game in his 10 year career, in which he lost. Which was last season against..... Brock Purdy and the 49ers.

There is nothing wrong with having a contrarian opinion or being on the minority side of a particular subject, but you rarely bring anything compelling to the table to discuss. And the amount of times you contradict your own takes about critiques of Brock Purdy is comical.

[thesack12]

This is how people who are objective rank Purdy against the other QBs in the league.

https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings

LOL, its funny you use the "objective" label here because your view on Brock Purdy is 100% subjective.

[Pattersonca65]

Tom Brady has played within the last year, and he’s already unretired once before.

Lol. Tom Brady never played for the Raiders
Was never going to play for the Raiders. And he had Geno Smith in the Top Ten and where he has Daniel Jones. Lol. What a clown

Lots of people have Geno above Purdy. Get outside of your little echo chamber for a minute.

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That guy is known as a Geno homer. The guy sucks and he always will

[Pattersonca65]

This is how people who are objective rank Purdy against the other QBs in the league.

https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings

LOL, its funny you use the "objective" label here because your view on Brock Purdy is 100% subjective.

I am sure he spend time looking for one like that

[thesack12]

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[CharityStripe34]

The whole discussion around Purdy is ridiculous. He's neither just "some dude" off the street held up by a really good team, nor is he Mahomes/Allen. I'd say he's a very good QB in a great situation. 49ers can absolutely win a SB with him playing QB. Whether or not they will win isn't totally up to him. Tons of factors come into play. Matchups, health, momentum and lady luck.

[Big J]

The whole discussion around Purdy is ridiculous. He's neither just "some dude" off the street held up by a really good team, nor is he Mahomes/Allen. I'd say he's a very good QB in a great situation. 49ers can absolutely win a SB with him playing QB. Whether or not they will win isn't totally up to him. Tons of factors come into play. Matchups, health, momentum and lady luck.

I think he'd look really bad in a bad situation. How many other teams would trade their QB for him straight up if the salaries were the same? I would say less than 1/3 of the league.

[Big J]

Here is an example of why flexing nuts about Purdy's QB stats is idiotic.

[Big J]

Was anyone disputing that there are plenty of people who see the same things you do?

Out of curiosity, do you think Daniel Jones is better than Brock Purdy?

Daniel Jones sucks, but he has a better arm and legs than Purdy, so I get why he's ranked above him. He also won a playoff game last year with that terrible Giants team.

Except that's an objectively dumb way to evaluate QBs. It is absolutely fair to question Purdy's ultimate upside because of his limited physical tools. But any ranking of a QB's present ability should prioritize other things (accuracy, awareness, vision, pocket presence, etc.) well ahead of just plain "arm strength." For example, Matt Stafford is a very good QB, but the thought of putting him in the Brady/Manning category is laughable despite his clearly superior arm strength.

Once you meet a certain threshold of physical ability, other things became far more important to elite QB play. So far, Purdy appears to check pretty much every one of those boxes. At present, he is playing like a top-10 QB easily. Frankly quite a bit higher than that. Ranking him at 25 is pretty indefensible.

Oh, and if he is ranking based on arm strength and running ability, Justin Fields should probably be top-5 instead of 28.

Who does Jones have to throw to on his team? Who is running without Saquan? Their blocking is absolutely terrible. If we stuck Purdy on that Giants team he wouldn't look any better than Jones does right now.

[thesack12]

The whole discussion around Purdy is ridiculous. He's neither just "some dude" off the street held up by a really good team, nor is he Mahomes/Allen. I'd say he's a very good QB in a great situation. 49ers can absolutely win a SB with him playing QB. Whether or not they will win isn't totally up to him. Tons of factors come into play. Matchups, health, momentum and lady luck.

I think he'd look really bad in a bad situation. How many other teams would trade their QB for him straight up if the salaries were the same? I would say less than 1/3 of the league.

Who wouldn't look bad in a bad situation?

Please tell me what quarterbacks have had sustained success while playing in bad situations? I'll wait

[CrimsonCrew]

Re: Geno and the Seahawks, the Hawks are a legit concern, this year and going forward. They have a young roster with some really talented guys. I think they will be a major problem for us in the years ahead, as our stars age out and theirs come into their own. That said, it's hard to argue that Geno has been better than Purdy. The only thing he has on Brock is about 13 starts for his current team.

Purdy has 12 starts including the playoffs, though I'm actually counting the Miami game, which he played most of, and not the NFCCG where he barely played. Smith has 25 starts including the playoffs. He only has one partial game, 2021 against the Rams when he came in only for the fourth quarter, so I'm not going to count that one (he did put up solid stats, for the record, though the team lost by the same point differential as when he entered the game).

In that span, Purdy as a rookie and second-year player is 12-0. He is 228 of 332 (68.7%) for 239.4 YPG with passing 21 TDs (1.75 per game), 4 rushing TDs (0.2 per game), and 3 INTs (0.14 per game). He has taken 21 sacks (1.75 per game), and has four fumbles (0.2 per game). In the regular season, his team has averaged 32.6 PPG, and in total they have averaged 32.2 points.

Meanwhile, Geno the grizzled vet has gone 13-12, admittedly for a team that has not been as talented (though, I would argue, has offensive pieces that are at least in the ballpark). His completion percentage is 69.6 (taking these from the stats in the X post, and he was 71% against us in the playoffs) for 238.1 YPG with 41 passing TDs (1.64 per game), 1 rushing TD (0.04 per game), and 12 INTs (0.48 per game). He has taken 69 sacks (2.76 per game) and has 10 fumbles (0.4 per game). His team has scored 24.1 PPG in the regular season and in regular season and playoffs (23 points against us).

Oh, forgot about YPA. Purdy's is 8.49. Smith's is 7.4 in the regular season (not doing the math to add in the playoff game).

There is literally no metric except completion percentage, in which Geno Smith has been better than Purdy. You can also consider performance against similar opponents this year. Against the Rams, Purdy put up 206 yards for 0 TDs (one rushing, and one barely backward pass that counted as a rush) on 68% passing and the team scored 30. Smith put up 112 yards for 1 TD on 61.5% passing and the team scored 13. Against the Giants, Purdy put up 310 yards for two TDs (and a dropped/extremely well defended PB to McCaffrey) on 67.6% passing and the team scored 30. Smith put up 110 yards and one TD on 65% passing and the team scored 24, including a pick-six.

To me, as well as Geno has played of late, it's a really tough sell to say he's better than Purdy.