The Brock Purdy Thread

[Big J]

I'm curious to see how Purdy looks this weekend. It feels like it will be his first "real" test since the Eagles game last year. If he plays well and gets the win it will go a long way toward earning my respect.

No doubt it's a big game. He played pretty well against Dallas in the playoffs, but it was almost certainly his worst game to date. He got the job done, but was clearly affected by the pass rush and the offense didn't click the way it has in pretty much every other game he's started (I'm giving him a bit of a pass on the Seahawks game in Seattle as he was obviously playing hurt). I'm very interested to see who makes better adjustments for this round.

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

[CharityStripe34]

I think he'd look really bad in a bad situation. How many other teams would trade their QB for him straight up if the salaries were the same? I would say less than 1/3 of the league.

I have no idea what Purdy would be like on a bad team (nor do I really care), but the notion that there are more than maybe two QBs who would thrive (individually) on a talent-bare roster is a bit suspect, IMO. Most, if not all, of the good QBs are successful because they're complimented by good players. Even Manning and Brady started really winning once their teams flanked them with very good defenses (especially NE) and a decent running game. And literally NO ONE is saying Purdy comes close to that level of elite QB play.

It's kind of an ironic way to try and enjoy the sport as well. I personally don't think Purdy is an elite talent as far as arm strength, speed, height or overall athleticism. What he's totally great at is reading the defense, going through his progressions, his mechanics/footwork and his timing. It absolutely helps that he was drafted to a great situation and as a 49er fan I'm not going to lament his lack of height or a rocket-arm, nor am I going to discredit his successful play based on media-driven hypotheticals like "WHAT IF WE TRADED HIM, OR WHAT IF HALF THE TEAM GOT HURT AND HE WAS DOWN 3 TDs ON THE ROAD?!!"

That's just a general observation, not personally calling you out. I just think that there are way too many extreme viewpoints as far as Purdy goes, and it's quite bizarre. My guess is that it gives the sports infotainment industry an incessant talking-point since polarizing debates garner attention.

Best way I can summarize Purdy is that he's most definitely better than Garoppolo was in Shanahan's system with this team. And I think had Purdy been the QB in 2019, we'd have beaten KC. Shanahan would not have tried to "hide" Purdy the way he did Jimmy during those playoffs. And Purdy, IMO, would've found a way to lead 1 or 2 more scoring drives to keep KC at bay.

So you shoot down people using hypotheticals, but then make up your own hypothetical of what if Purdy was the QB instead of Jimmy?It's possible that if Kyle had Purdy and didn't try to hide him he would have ended up turning the ball over more than Jimmy did in those games and the team would have lost.

I didn't "shoot down" anyone's opinion I was just pointing out some of the stuff I see regarding the discussion around Purdy in the mainstream consciousness, so to speak. People can think Purdy is garbage for all I care. Or they can think he's incredible. Or mediocre. From the evidence that I've seen of Purdy, and Garoppolo playing on this team in this offense, I think there is a solid chance the 49ers would've won in the SB. Or they could have lost. We'll never know. I guess the premise of my post is that I personally try not to let hypothetical scenarios govern what I think about a player, I just try and watch to see what happens. Purdy could've totally bombed in the 2019 run for all I know. It's all counterfactual and guessing, especially in hindsight.

Hoping you're not taking anything personally, bud, everyone's free to analyze however they'd like. I don't blame you at all for thinking that because of Purdy's relatively limited ceiling that the team may not be able to win.

[CharityStripe34]

I'm curious to see how Purdy looks this weekend. It feels like it will be his first "real" test since the Eagles game last year. If he plays well and gets the win it will go a long way toward earning my respect.

No doubt it's a big game. He played pretty well against Dallas in the playoffs, but it was almost certainly his worst game to date. He got the job done, but was clearly affected by the pass rush and the offense didn't click the way it has in pretty much every other game he's started (I'm giving him a bit of a pass on the Seahawks game in Seattle as he was obviously playing hurt). I'm very interested to see who makes better adjustments for this round.

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

Especially if the right side of the line gets demolished. Though Brock has been adept at navigating the pocket and knowing when to bail. Injuries robbed Jimmy of whatever mobility he had, and I think that played into his happy-feet and tendency to play impatient and make errant throws. Will be interesting to see how Brock has evolved from the playoff game against Dallas (where he was pretty good, but contained).

I'm hoping the team itself isn't buying its own hype because the national TV types are crowning them.

[Big J]

No doubt it's a big game. He played pretty well against Dallas in the playoffs, but it was almost certainly his worst game to date. He got the job done, but was clearly affected by the pass rush and the offense didn't click the way it has in pretty much every other game he's started (I'm giving him a bit of a pass on the Seahawks game in Seattle as he was obviously playing hurt). I'm very interested to see who makes better adjustments for this round.

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

Especially if the right side of the line gets demolished. Though Brock has been adept at navigating the pocket and knowing when to bail. Injuries robbed Jimmy of whatever mobility he had, and I think that played into his happy-feet and tendency to play impatient and make errant throws. Will be interesting to see how Brock has evolved from the playoff game against Dallas (where he was pretty good, but contained).

I'm hoping the team itself isn't buying its own hype because the national TV types are crowning them.

I think Brock himself is getting the most smoke blown up his ass relative to his actual talent. I've seen a lot of media personalities giving him a lions share of the credit for the early season success when the team was performing just as well with Jimmy at the helm. It actually legit bothers me.

[Pattersonca65]

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

Especially if the right side of the line gets demolished. Though Brock has been adept at navigating the pocket and knowing when to bail. Injuries robbed Jimmy of whatever mobility he had, and I think that played into his happy-feet and tendency to play impatient and make errant throws. Will be interesting to see how Brock has evolved from the playoff game against Dallas (where he was pretty good, but contained).

I'm hoping the team itself isn't buying its own hype because the national TV types are crowning them.

I think Brock himself is getting the most smoke blown up his ass relative to his actual talent. I've seen a lot of media personalities giving him a lions share of the credit for the early season success when the team was performing just as well with Jimmy at the helm. It actually legit bothers me.

Jimmy didn't play as well.as Brock is playing now. Get over it if it bothers you that much. He is the qb of this team. They traded away the guy with all the imaginary potential.

[arich35]

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

Especially if the right side of the line gets demolished. Though Brock has been adept at navigating the pocket and knowing when to bail. Injuries robbed Jimmy of whatever mobility he had, and I think that played into his happy-feet and tendency to play impatient and make errant throws. Will be interesting to see how Brock has evolved from the playoff game against Dallas (where he was pretty good, but contained).

I'm hoping the team itself isn't buying its own hype because the national TV types are crowning them.

I think Brock himself is getting the most smoke blown up his ass relative to his actual talent. I've seen a lot of media personalities giving him a lions share of the credit for the early season success when the team was performing just as well with Jimmy at the helm. It actually legit bothers me.

You are the only one bothered about the hype the QB from the team you apparently root for is getting. I still am not convinced you are even a fan of the 49ers

[Pattersonca65]

Especially if the right side of the line gets demolished. Though Brock has been adept at navigating the pocket and knowing when to bail. Injuries robbed Jimmy of whatever mobility he had, and I think that played into his happy-feet and tendency to play impatient and make errant throws. Will be interesting to see how Brock has evolved from the playoff game against Dallas (where he was pretty good, but contained).

I'm hoping the team itself isn't buying its own hype because the national TV types are crowning them.

I think Brock himself is getting the most smoke blown up his ass relative to his actual talent. I've seen a lot of media personalities giving him a lions share of the credit for the early season success when the team was performing just as well with Jimmy at the helm. It actually legit bothers me.

You are the only one bothered about the hype the QB from the team you apparently root for is getting. I still am not convinced you are even a fan of the 49ers

Either that or still upset they traded away Lance who he has a crush on

[CrimsonCrew]

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

Especially if the right side of the line gets demolished. Though Brock has been adept at navigating the pocket and knowing when to bail. Injuries robbed Jimmy of whatever mobility he had, and I think that played into his happy-feet and tendency to play impatient and make errant throws. Will be interesting to see how Brock has evolved from the playoff game against Dallas (where he was pretty good, but contained).

I'm hoping the team itself isn't buying its own hype because the national TV types are crowning them.

I think Brock himself is getting the most smoke blown up his ass relative to his actual talent. I've seen a lot of media personalities giving him a lions share of the credit for the early season success when the team was performing just as well with Jimmy at the helm. It actually legit bothers me.

The team was absolutely not playing "just as well" with Jimmy at the helm. In Jimmy's five games with McCaffrey, the team put up 30+ points twice. In his last full game, we scored 13 against the Saints. Fortunately the D shut them out. Purdy has scored thirty or more in 9 of 10 regular season starts, again, only failing to do so when obviously injured in Seattle. And Deebo didn't play in any of Purdy's regular season games last year.

Literally everyone who mentions what Purdy is doing mentions his great supporting cast. But after four games of really strong play this year, on the heels of a fairly unprecedented run for a rookie QB, people are starting to acknowledge that it ain't just the system and the supporting cast. He's good. How good? Hopefully we'll find out. But the kid has been playing like a 10-year pro basically since he stepped out there. It's really increidble.

[CrimsonCrew]

This is something Ruiz said in an interview with KNBR:

Can the 49ers win the Super Bowl with Purdy as the quarterback?

"They can't. No," Ruiz responded. "If they do, I'm not covering the sport again. If they win it with Brock Purdy ... Sam Darnold, sure. I can get on board with Sam Darnold, not Brock Purdy."

So much for his credibility. No rational person could consider taking Darnold over Purdy based on what the two have put on film in their careers to date.

Just to circle back to this, it took Darnold until Week 15 of his THIRD season to win 12 games. Took Purdy...twelve healthy games.

[Big J]

This is something Ruiz said in an interview with KNBR:

Can the 49ers win the Super Bowl with Purdy as the quarterback?

"They can't. No," Ruiz responded. "If they do, I'm not covering the sport again. If they win it with Brock Purdy ... Sam Darnold, sure. I can get on board with Sam Darnold, not Brock Purdy."

So much for his credibility. No rational person could consider taking Darnold over Purdy based on what the two have put on film in their careers to date.

Just to circle back to this, it took Darnold until Week 15 of his THIRD season to win 12 games. Took Purdy...twelve healthy games.

That's because Darnold played on terrible Jets teams.

[CrimsonCrew]

This is something Ruiz said in an interview with KNBR:

Can the 49ers win the Super Bowl with Purdy as the quarterback?

"They can't. No," Ruiz responded. "If they do, I'm not covering the sport again. If they win it with Brock Purdy ... Sam Darnold, sure. I can get on board with Sam Darnold, not Brock Purdy."

So much for his credibility. No rational person could consider taking Darnold over Purdy based on what the two have put on film in their careers to date.

Just to circle back to this, it took Darnold until Week 15 of his THIRD season to win 12 games. Took Purdy...twelve healthy games.

That's because Darnold played on terrible Jets teams.

No doubt that contributed, but an average of four wins in the first three seasons is God awful whatever the supporting cast is.

[arich35]

This is something Ruiz said in an interview with KNBR:

Can the 49ers win the Super Bowl with Purdy as the quarterback?

"They can't. No," Ruiz responded. "If they do, I'm not covering the sport again. If they win it with Brock Purdy ... Sam Darnold, sure. I can get on board with Sam Darnold, not Brock Purdy."

So much for his credibility. No rational person could consider taking Darnold over Purdy based on what the two have put on film in their careers to date.

Just to circle back to this, it took Darnold until Week 15 of his THIRD season to win 12 games. Took Purdy...twelve healthy games.

That's because Darnold played on terrible Jets teams.

Love how you still haven't commented on what Ruiz said in the interview, you like to ignore things that don't fit your little narrative

[Big J]

Just to circle back to this, it took Darnold until Week 15 of his THIRD season to win 12 games. Took Purdy...twelve healthy games.

That's because Darnold played on terrible Jets teams.

Love how you still haven't commented on what Ruiz said in the interview, you like to ignore things that don't fit your little narrative

Well, I don't think the team can win with either Purdy or Darnold so I don't actually agree with his Darnold take. Doesn't really take away from what he said about Purdy though.

[Pattersonca65]

That's because Darnold played on terrible Jets teams.

Love how you still haven't commented on what Ruiz said in the interview, you like to ignore things that don't fit your little narrative

Well, I don't think the team can win with either Purdy or Darnold so I don't actually agree with his Darnold take. Doesn't really take away from what he said about Purdy though.

Sure it does. This Ruiz is a clown

[CrimsonCrew]

I'm curious to see how Purdy looks this weekend. It feels like it will be his first "real" test since the Eagles game last year. If he plays well and gets the win it will go a long way toward earning my respect.

No doubt it's a big game. He played pretty well against Dallas in the playoffs, but it was almost certainly his worst game to date. He got the job done, but was clearly affected by the pass rush and the offense didn't click the way it has in pretty much every other game he's started (I'm giving him a bit of a pass on the Seahawks game in Seattle as he was obviously playing hurt). I'm very interested to see who makes better adjustments for this round.

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

We'll see. When Jimmy played the Cowboys in the playoffs, he very nearly gave what should have been an easy win away with some of the most bone-headed play of his career (which is saying something). I don't think we'll see that from Purdy.

[CrimsonCrew]

That's because Darnold played on terrible Jets teams.

Love how you still haven't commented on what Ruiz said in the interview, you like to ignore things that don't fit your little narrative

Well, I don't think the team can win with either Purdy or Darnold so I don't actually agree with his Darnold take. Doesn't really take away from what he said about Purdy though.

It certainly casts doubt on the value of his QB rankings.

[Big J]

Love how you still haven't commented on what Ruiz said in the interview, you like to ignore things that don't fit your little narrative

Well, I don't think the team can win with either Purdy or Darnold so I don't actually agree with his Darnold take. Doesn't really take away from what he said about Purdy though.

It certainly casts doubt on the value of his QB rankings.

I think it was more of a statement about the Niners weapons and Kyle than it was about Darnold.

[CrimsonCrew]

Well, I don't think the team can win with either Purdy or Darnold so I don't actually agree with his Darnold take. Doesn't really take away from what he said about Purdy though.

It certainly casts doubt on the value of his QB rankings.

I think it was more of a statement about the Niners weapons and Kyle than it was about Darnold.

It is explicitly taking Darnold over Purdy, which is indefensible at this point.

[Big J]

It certainly casts doubt on the value of his QB rankings.

I think it was more of a statement about the Niners weapons and Kyle than it was about Darnold.

It is explicitly taking Darnold over Purdy, which is indefensible at this point.

Well, we haven't seen Darnold in this system yet, so it's hard to say what it would look like.

[arich35]

I am 30, and honestly Purdy might be the best QB of my lifetime. I was way too young to count Steve Young