Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #621 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 8:05 pm

I love everything I’m hearing and seeing from the group, it sounds to me that Herro and Bam will take another big step in their progression and Jimmy will continue to be Jimmy but at the end of the day there’s just undoubtedly going to be too big of a talent gap to overcome at some point and we will end up hitting a wall. That could change by MASSIVE jumps in Bam and Tyler but I think they’re doing just fine at the current rates they’re progressing.

We will need to make a move or 2.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #622 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 9:01 pm

Read on Twitter

Hard to imagine but if he does have his best season that would be nice. He did say he’s the best player in the world which is a new stance than he normally takes. He usually deflects that type of talk. Maybe he’s going to say fuxk it and go all out this season and be in the MVP conversation. Realistically he will more than likely coast majority of the way though. I would love to see him competing for MVP though.

HeatingUp3 · Post #623 » by **HeatingUp3** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 9:10 pm

Hey guys, im in a middle of a war on my country. I love this team and i wish i will be able to watch another Heat game.

Love you guys

Heat3 · Post #624 » by **Heat3** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 9:36 pm

HeatingUp3 wrote:Hey guys, im in a middle of a war on my country. I love this team and i wish i will be able to watch another Heat game.

Love you guys

hopefully it ends quickly and you are safe distance away from where the action is happening.

Heat_team02 · Post #625 » by **Heat_team02** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 9:41 pm

Haven't heard anything said about Justin Champagnie, Cheik Diallo, Alondes Williams, Drew Peterson or Jamal Cain

MorbidHEAT · Post #626 » by **MorbidHEAT** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 10:14 pm

Anybody else having an issue with this forum on IPhone? Ever since I was stupid enough to switch to apple, this damn forum freezes almost every time I go into it.

Bishop45 · Post #627 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 10:16 pm

HeatingUp3 wrote:Hey guys, im in a middle of a war on my country. I love this team and i wish i will be able to watch another Heat game.

Love you guys

Love you too, brother! Be careful. I pray that you and your loved ones make it out safe and this ends soon

Bishop45 · Post #628 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 10:41 pm

MorbidHEAT wrote:Anybody else having an issue with this forum on IPhone? Ever since I was stupid enough to switch to apple, this damn forum freezes almost every time I go into it.

Iphone is an elitist grift, material class warfare. Waiting for the opportunity to jump out of the bandwagon, tuck and cover. Got my current Iphone for free

Not sure if I've noticed any freezes tho, just regular chittiness of my phone internet

eddieheatfan · Post #629 » by **eddieheatfan** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 10:46 pm

HeatingUp3 wrote:Hey guys, im in a middle of a war on my country. I love this team and i wish i will be able to watch another Heat game.

Love you guys

i wish you the best,i'm afraid that we might hear horrible stories in the next few hours and days to come from both sides. since its the people that always suffers through these events. i'm afraid that one side might choose to genocide the other because war is indeed hell.

humanity as whole seems uncappable to learn from past mistakes. why is it so hard for everyone to get along?

Kobewade11 · Post #630 » by **Kobewade11** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 10:47 pm

Heat_team02 wrote:https://heatnation.com/team-news/erik-spoelstra-discusses-3-options-for-miami-heats-starting-point-guard-spot/

“Kyle obviously is our decorated champion,” Spoelstra said. “So playing on those words, he’s one of the great quarterbacks and quarterback minds in this league, and he’s critical for what we do.”

“J-Rich has been playing some there, just kind of getting reacclimated to a little more of the role he played with us previously,” Spoelstra said. “And Dru Smith has quietly, or not so quietly, had a very good camp. He’s improved considerably.”

I've liked Dru when I've seen him in games..could eventually develop on a Gabe Vincent like track .

Heat3 · Post #631 » by **Heat3** » Sat Oct 7, 2023 11:01 pm

MorbidHEAT wrote:Anybody else having an issue with this forum on IPhone? Ever since I was stupid enough to switch to apple, this damn forum freezes almost every time I go into it.

I don’t have any issue but I installed an AdGuard cause realgm has the most user hostile ads of any website I visit. It could very well be some **** ad causing you trouble.

HeatingUp3 · Post #632 » by **HeatingUp3** » Sun Oct 8, 2023 12:08 am

eddieheatfan wrote:
HeatingUp3 wrote:Hey guys, im in a middle of a war on my country. I love this team and i wish i will be able to watch another Heat game.

Love you guys
i wish you the best,i'm afraid that we might hear horrible stories in the next few hours and days to come from both sides. since its the people that always suffers through these events. i'm afraid that one side might choose to genocide the other because war is indeed hell.

humanity as whole seems uncappable to learn from past mistakes. why is it so hard for everyone to get along?

Thank you, Bish and everyone.
We (Israel) really wants to live in peace. We give the other side alot of money, power, water and give them jobs all over the country.
Today just kidnept 200 childrens, womans, and old people. Shot 4000+ miscels at us.
We can't sleep or eat. They rape our womans. They are not human my friend.
I want peace. I have family and friends and dreams.

Sorry for the off topic post fam. Just wanted to say i love the team and Dame or not it doesnt matter, Just be happy to have a team to root for and enjoy this game.

oreon · Post #633 » by **oreon** » Sun Oct 8, 2023 1:59 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hard to imagine but if he does have his best season that would be nice. He did say he’s the best player in the world which is a new stance than he normally takes. He usually deflects that type of talk. Maybe he’s going to say fuxk it and go all out this season and be in the MVP conversation. Realistically he will more than likely coast majority of the way though. I would love to see him competing for MVP though.

I hope he coasts. I don't think he should chase the MVP because he doesn't have a shot at it. The award favors stars who put up big numbers. Heat's offense isn't built to funnel everything through one guy so Butler is at disadvantage. It's gonna be hard to beat Jokic, Doncic, Tatum, Giannis,Embiid who are likely to be over 30 pts scorers.
Bam and Herro should be the ones to carry the load in the regular season. We need Butler as healthy as possible in the playoffs. To beat Bucks, Celtics who are better than last season is going to take the Butler we saw in the Buck series. Butler should as minimal effort needed to get Heat a top 3 seed. But onus and pressure should be on Bam, Herro

IceColdCubano · Post #634 » by **IceColdCubano** » Sun Oct 8, 2023 2:12 am

oreon wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hard to imagine but if he does have his best season that would be nice. He did say he’s the best player in the world which is a new stance than he normally takes. He usually deflects that type of talk. Maybe he’s going to say fuxk it and go all out this season and be in the MVP conversation. Realistically he will more than likely coast majority of the way though. I would love to see him competing for MVP though.

I hope he coasts. I don't think he should chase the MVP because he doesn't have a shot at it. The award favors stars who put up big numbers. Heat's offense isn't built to funnel everything through one guy so Butler is at disadvantage. It's gonna be hard to beat Jokic, Doncic, Tatum, Giannis,Embiid who are likely to be over 30 pts scorers.
Bam and Herro should be the ones to carry the load in the regular season. We need Butler as healthy as possible in the playoffs. To beat Bucks, Celtics who are better than last season is going to take the Butler we saw in the Buck series. Butler should as minimal effort needed to get Heat a top 3 seed. But onus and pressure should be on Bam, Herro

He can be on the Top 5 MVP convo, but to win it, requiers uber stats that Miami doesnt funnel through one player. Second the Team would need to be top in the league in offense and defense. I cant see him win with Miami finishing say 3rd seed.

carnageta · Post #635 » by **carnageta** » Sun Oct 8, 2023 2:44 am

oreon wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hard to imagine but if he does have his best season that would be nice. He did say he’s the best player in the world which is a new stance than he normally takes. He usually deflects that type of talk. Maybe he’s going to say fuxk it and go all out this season and be in the MVP conversation. Realistically he will more than likely coast majority of the way though. I would love to see him competing for MVP though.

I hope he coasts. I don't think he should chase the MVP because he doesn't have a shot at it. The award favors stars who put up big numbers. Heat's offense isn't built to funnel everything through one guy so Butler is at disadvantage. It's gonna be hard to beat Jokic, Doncic, Tatum, Giannis,Embiid who are likely to be over 30 pts scorers.
Bam and Herro should be the ones to carry the load in the regular season. We need Butler as healthy as possible in the playoffs. To beat Bucks, Celtics who are better than last season is going to take the Butler we saw in the Buck series. Butler should as minimal effort needed to get Heat a top 3 seed. But onus and pressure should be on Bam, Herro

That's the thing lol.. in order for Miami to get a top 3 seed Jimmy Butler is going to have to play at an MVP level and be present in at least 65+ games.

carnageta · Post #636 » by **carnageta** » Sun Oct 8, 2023 2:48 am

Butler had his best NBA season this past year in which he averaged nearly 23ppg on 53% shooting. Would not surprise me if he can repeat that same level of performance this season as well. The guy is a Lebron-esque when it comes to maintaining and taking care of his body during the offseason (of course, he doesn't have the physical tools like LeBron does that help even further with the longevity).

He likely will not win MVP, but if the Heat win 50ish games and he averages 23ppg again - which are both possible outcomes - he may crack the top 5.

twix2500 · Post #637 » by **twix2500** » Sun Oct 8, 2023 3:38 am

If Jaquez turns out to be a stud he may be the biggest relief for Butler.

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IceColdCubano · Post #638 » by **IceColdCubano** » Sun Oct 8, 2023 4:26 am

twix2500 wrote:If Jaquez turns out to be a stud he may be the biggest relief for Butler.

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The biggest relief isnt coming from a rookie. Its gonna have to come from Bam being aggressive for a full season, its Herro being a legitimate scorer putting up upwards of 25ppg in his season. Then Jimmy can score an efficient 20ppg and play tough nose defense and stay healthy all season. Grinding out wins where you go 5 minutes without scoring more than 2 points and Jimmy has to will us to a win is what saves him.

dean456 · Post #639 » by **dean456** » Sun Oct 8, 2023 5:19 am

IceColdCubano wrote:
twix2500 wrote:If Jaquez turns out to be a stud he may be the biggest relief for Butler.

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The biggest relief isnt coming from a rookie. Its gonna have to come from Bam being aggressive for a full season, its Herro being a legitimate scorer putting up upwards of 25ppg in his season. Then Jimmy can score an efficient 20ppg and play tough nose defense and stay healthy all season. Grinding out wins where you go 5 minutes without scoring more than 2 points and Jimmy has to will us to a win is what saves him.

I think for Tyler to give Jimmy relief he's going to have to do more than score. We need someone other than Jimmy that can get the other guys involved. We are still relying heavily on Jimmy being the only guy penetrating the paint and finding the open guys.

This quote from Bam regarding Tyler has me optimistic about his upcoming season.

He's minimized the extra dribbles, getting his shot off faster, reading the game and making the right pass.

To me this is all key to our success with Tyler on this team. If he has really trimmed the fat in his game and isn't over dribbling and finding the open guys then that could make a huge difference for us this season.

twix2500 · Post #640 » by **twix2500** » Sun Oct 8, 2023 2:56 pm

dean456 wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
twix2500 wrote:If Jaquez turns out to be a stud he may be the biggest relief for Butler.

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The biggest relief isnt coming from a rookie. Its gonna have to come from Bam being aggressive for a full season, its Herro being a legitimate scorer putting up upwards of 25ppg in his season. Then Jimmy can score an efficient 20ppg and play tough nose defense and stay healthy all season. Grinding out wins where you go 5 minutes without scoring more than 2 points and Jimmy has to will us to a win is what saves him.

I think for Tyler to give Jimmy relief he's going to have to do more than score. We need someone other than Jimmy that can get the other guys involved. We are still relying heavily on Jimmy being the only guy penetrating the paint and finding the open guys.

This quote from Bam regarding Tyler has me optimistic about his upcoming season.
He's minimized the extra dribbles, getting his shot off faster, reading the game and making the right pass.

To me this is all key to our success with Tyler on this team. If he has really trimmed the fat in his game and isn't over dribbling and finding the open guys then that could make a huge difference for us this season.

Iv been saying this for a while. Herro is at his best when he can focus soley as a scorer. Not a ball handler or playmaker. The problem happens when Spo uses him at the top of the 3 pt line as a baby Harden, and bringing the ball up in halfcourt situations and distributing. When he is focused as a scorer on the wing, he scores efficiently. But hey Spo wants go force Herro into being a pick n roll playmaker

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