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Preseason Game 1: Bulls at Bucks - 10/8/23 - Noon - BSWI - Giannis/Khris/Dame OUT

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Post#341 » by FrieAaron » Sun Oct 8, 2023 9:06 pm

I'm on the AJJ bandwagon. Think at this point he's probably better suited off the bench with Beauchamp as the starter but might have a higher ceiling. I don't really watch college ball outside of around draft time but you could definitely see the BBIQ on display.
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Post#342 » by soxperry » Sun Oct 8, 2023 9:14 pm

Andre Jackson Jr.: Really impressed with him overall. My biggest question marks going into this game for him were his on ball defense and his offensive ability. Defensively, he did give up a couple of blow bys, but when he really honed in and put his all into it, he did really well. Those early situations against Derozan were amazing. Felt like I was watching Jrue the way he slides his feet and stays in front of guys. You can tell he really takes pride in it. Offensively, he didn't attempt a jump shot and his finishing ability was hit and miss. Obviously the dunk is great and the finger roll is great but there maybe two more where the ball had no shot of going in as it left his fingers. But the guy is perpetually in "go mode," so i think we're going to see some rough stuff with him from time to time.. he's kind of like Thanasis in that way. His passing was mostly great. Terrible alley oop attempt but glad he went for it. The fast break distribution was awesome. If he's in transition with Giannis running the court it's going to be very fun. Saw him bat a loose ball towards his teammates from under the hoop which is such a glue guy move. There's an "it" factor with him that i'm ready to acknowledge and get excited about. I was being very cautious with my optimism but the floodgates are open.

Marjon: He gets graded on a different scale than a guy like AJJ because he's competing for the starting 2 job. Jackson is all gravy at the moment. Saw some good things, but overall kind of meh. The free throws at the end are a good sign. Saw good defense at times. But i saw him look completely out of place on defense on multiple occasions as well. Offensively, way too hesitant to get his shot up. Way too many situations where he seemed like he wasn't aware that other defenders would creep in from the backside, as if he was just playing one on one in an otherwise empty gym. Shot didn't look great, although the corner three was encouraging as it's the kind of three point opportunity he will get next to Giannis and Dame. Made some good passes and at least one terrible one. Overall, decision making seemed to be pretty good. At times he makes a mistake and hangs his head a little and at times he will just smile through it and seemingly move on. At this time, Marjon still doesn't look ready to start or be in a playoff rotation but that could easily change by the end of the regular season. I think the biggest thing is for him to gain confidence and I suspect that this is something Giannis and Dame are already aware of (hence the training camp praise).

Pat looked composed and effective, no surprises there. And Beasley looked as advertised. He's a chucker.

If i had to guess, it's going to be Beasley getting the starting spot with Pat in the closing 5, at least to start the season. Let Marjon continue to develop and grow his confidence off the bench against other reserves. No idea what they'll do with AJJ, but i think he needs to get a good sprinkling of real minutes at least early in the season. his development needs to be a priority. there's probably no way he develops a good shot but every other aspect of him feels limitless. it's one thing if a guy can't shoot but is like 6'2" and can't finish at the rim either. or if a guy can't shoot and is 6'10 and can't do much more than play defense and dunk. Jackson seems to be able to do everything except shoot at a plus level, at least potentially. he's like a less polished, more alpha version of Ben Simmons. that's a good place to stop before i head over to dhgate.
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Post#343 » by soxperry » Sun Oct 8, 2023 9:26 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
Read on Twitter


He said Beasley is going to be the guy that gets the toughest defensive assignment each night. So that tells me two things: 1. Beasley is the starter 2. We really are just going to try and outscore everyone.
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Post#344 » by MVP2110 » Sun Oct 8, 2023 9:29 pm

soxperry wrote:Andre Jackson Jr.: Really impressed with him overall. My biggest question marks going into this game for him were his on ball defense and his offensive ability. Defensively, he did give up a couple of blow bys, but when he really honed in and put his all into it, he did really well. Those early situations against Derozan were amazing. Felt like I was watching Jrue the way he slides his feet and stays in front of guys. You can tell he really takes pride in it. Offensively, he didn't attempt a jump shot and his finishing ability was hit and miss. Obviously the dunk is great and the finger roll is great but there maybe two more where the ball had no shot of going in as it left his fingers. But the guy is perpetually in "go mode," so i think we're going to see some rough stuff with him from time to time.. he's kind of like Thanasis in that way. His passing was mostly great. Terrible alley oop attempt but glad he went for it. The fast break distribution was awesome. If he's in transition with Giannis running the court it's going to be very fun. Saw him bat a loose ball towards his teammates from under the hoop which is such a glue guy move. There's an "it" factor with him that i'm ready to acknowledge and get excited about. I was being very cautious with my optimism but the floodgates are open.

Marjon: He gets graded on a different scale than a guy like AJJ because he's competing for the starting 2 job. Jackson is all gravy at the moment. Saw some good things, but overall kind of meh. The free throws at the end are a good sign. Saw good defense at times. But i saw him look completely out of place on defense on multiple occasions as well. Offensively, way too hesitant to get his shot up. Way too many situations where he seemed like he wasn't aware that other defenders would creep in from the backside, as if he was just playing one on one in an otherwise empty gym. Shot didn't look great, although the corner three was encouraging as it's the kind of three point opportunity he will get next to Giannis and Dame. Made some good passes and at least one terrible one. Overall, decision making seemed to be pretty good. At times he makes a mistake and hangs his head a little and at times he will just smile through it and seemingly move on. At this time, Marjon still doesn't look ready to start or be in a playoff rotation but that could easily change by the end of the regular season. I think the biggest thing is for him to gain confidence and I suspect that this is something Giannis and Dame are already aware of (hence the training camp praise).

Pat looked composed and effective, no surprises there. And Beasley looked as advertised. He's a chucker.

If i had to guess, it's going to be Beasley getting the starting spot with Pat in the closing 5, at least to start the season. Let Marjon continue to develop and grow his confidence off the bench against other reserves. No idea what they'll do with AJJ, but i think he needs to get a good sprinkling of real minutes at least early in the season. his development needs to be a priority. there's probably no way he develops a good shot but every other aspect of him feels limitless. it's one thing if a guy can't shoot but is like 6'2" and can't finish at the rim either. or if a guy can't shoot and is 6'10 and can't do much more than play defense and dunk. Jackson seems to be able to do everything except shoot at a plus level, at least potentially. he's like a less polished, more alpha version of Ben Simmons. that's a good place to stop before i head over to dhgate.


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Post#345 » by randy84 » Sun Oct 8, 2023 9:31 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
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Krispy Kreme wrote:That was definitely fun. I like a lot of our young guys, and I think this board is sleeping on Beasley.

Yeah I thought Beasley looked decent on D. I know some said he wasn’t playing any, but when I was looking he showed good effort.


Read on Twitter

Is this suppose to be an example of Beasley's bad defense or Jae and Portis' bad defense?
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Post#346 » by PG Graveyard » Sun Oct 8, 2023 9:32 pm

Marjons line looks good. Why is everyone **** on him?
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Post#347 » by emunney » Sun Oct 8, 2023 9:34 pm

My first question is whether Coach Griffin would have played Player Griffin.
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Post#348 » by randy84 » Sun Oct 8, 2023 9:38 pm

soxperry wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
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He said Beasley is going to be the guy that gets the toughest defensive assignment each night. So that tells me two things: 1. Beasley is the starter 2. We really are just going to try and outscore everyone.


I would agree. I think they are planning on starting Beasley at the 2.
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Post#349 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Oct 8, 2023 9:52 pm

could care less who starts. dont think it matters much. there wont be as much oppurtunity for that guy as the guy coming in behind him for shots anyway
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Post#350 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Oct 8, 2023 10:00 pm

trwi7 wrote:
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theFireBlanket wrote:Bud's gotta be feelin jealous. Team is deep.


Bud is still unemployed for a good reason


Yeah, he gets paid to do nothing. Pretty sweet gig that we would all take if we could.

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Post#351 » by Ron Swanson » Sun Oct 8, 2023 10:24 pm

randy84 wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
Chad34 wrote:Yeah I thought Beasley looked decent on D. I know some said he wasn’t playing any, but when I was looking he showed good effort.


Read on Twitter

Is this suppose to be an example of Beasley's bad defense or Jae and Portis' bad defense?


That's just good ball movement. Not sure what people expect there. It's preseason but if Malik actually gives consistent effort then my guess is that his reputation as a bad defender starts to fade. Sometimes that really is the difference.

Edit: Also, that was clearly a mixup by either Wiggington or Bobby.
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Post#352 » by Bucksmaniac » Sun Oct 8, 2023 10:53 pm

After listening to the context of the comment on Malik, I think it’s likely we expect to take on the toughest assignments frequently due to the number of great wing players in the league and the idea we don’t want our star players to have too much on the plate. Probably would rather Malik take on those top guards than Dame with his offensive responsibilities.
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Post#353 » by MVP2110 » Sun Oct 8, 2023 10:58 pm

Bucksmaniac wrote:After listening to the context of the comment on Malik, I think it’s likely we expect to take on the toughest assignments frequently due to the number of great wing players in the league and the idea we don’t want our star players to have too much on the plate. Probably would rather Malik take on those top guards than Dame with his offensive responsibilities.


Or could not start Malik and start a player more capable of guarding those guys. Not too mention Malik would likely take shots away from Dame, Giannis, & Khris since he's a chucker
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Post#354 » by rilamann » Sun Oct 8, 2023 11:04 pm

I am really liking what I am seeing and hearing so far from Adrian Griffin.

He's been a breath of fresh air for me.
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Post#355 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Oct 8, 2023 11:36 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
Bucksmaniac wrote:After listening to the context of the comment on Malik, I think it’s likely we expect to take on the toughest assignments frequently due to the number of great wing players in the league and the idea we don’t want our star players to have too much on the plate. Probably would rather Malik take on those top guards than Dame with his offensive responsibilities.


Or could not start Malik and start a player more capable of guarding those guys. Not too mention Malik would likely take shots away from Dame, Giannis, & Khris since he's a chucker



Yeah, Beasley has lost his rotation spot at numerous stops because he couldn't guard the opposing scrub, and now he's going to guard stars? Lol
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Post#356 » by blazza18 » Sun Oct 8, 2023 11:48 pm

AJ Green missed time at summer league and now misses the first preseason game. Not helping himself by not being on the floor.
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Post#357 » by Prez » Sun Oct 8, 2023 11:56 pm

Stop playing and start Dre.
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Post#358 » by Dick Tate » Mon Oct 9, 2023 12:19 am

trwi7 wrote:
Fotis St wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:Bud's gotta be feelin jealous. Team is deep.


Bud is still unemployed for a good reason


Yeah, he gets paid to do nothing. Pretty sweet gig that we would all take if we could.

The Celtics job will be opening up next summer 8-)
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Post#359 » by Shaffty » Mon Oct 9, 2023 12:28 am

Dick Tate wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
Fotis St wrote:
Bud is still unemployed for a good reason


Yeah, he gets paid to do nothing. Pretty sweet gig that we would all take if we could.

The Celtics job will be opening up next summer 8-)



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Post#360 » by Daver » Mon Oct 9, 2023 12:32 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Bucksmaniac wrote:After listening to the context of the comment on Malik, I think it’s likely we expect to take on the toughest assignments frequently due to the number of great wing players in the league and the idea we don’t want our star players to have too much on the plate. Probably would rather Malik take on those top guards than Dame with his offensive responsibilities.


Or could not start Malik and start a player more capable of guarding those guys. Not too mention Malik would likely take shots away from Dame, Giannis, & Khris since he's a chucker



Yeah, Beasley has lost his rotation spot at numerous stops because he couldn't guard the opposing scrub, and now he's going to guard stars? Lol




Maybe just maybe thst light bulb went on n he realizes that this is the best shot he has to succeed n he tealizes that he needs to get serious about D from all accounts he has

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