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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#441 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:54 pm

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If the only reason you come in here is to **** talk Purdy and getting rid of Lance too early, why are you here? You don't like this team or care at all about the success the team and Purdy are having. He could go 17-0 and win the MVP and Super Bowl and you would still **** on him.


So we're not allowed to critique him at all? I see plenty of guys on this forum critiquing other guys on the team.


We all critique every player on the team including Purdy, go in the game thread and you will see it. But that is not what you do, you keep trying to find reasons for Purdy not to be a good to great QB. No matter what he does, you don't care and doesn't change your mind. He could make a few bad throws and throw a couple INTs just like every other QB including the ones that have all those physical tools you love and that is when you will jump in.

Not just any QB can make these throws and reads, you are completely blind if you think so.

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Everyday it is something new with this troll.

He said this before the Dallas game

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

The troll was wrong again. So he has to scour the internet to find a Purdy doubter following the game and then he makes up crap like the WRs were all wide open when anyone who watched the game could see many of the throws were made in tight windows. Now, his latest thing is Purdy is going to struggle in the playoffs in the cold weather. LOL
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#442 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:12 pm

JTO with some good film review of the game. He does a good job of highlighting the point that I was making: that Brock's vision, anticipation, ability to judge where defenders are going is basically elite already in his second year. Along with his mechanics and ball placement on anything within 30 yards of the LOS, it's a dangerous combination.



One personal observation is that with Jimmy, we would see all of these crossers in the 0-10 yard range that he did very effectively. But, that part of the field is muddier than it gets further down, especially as LBs are trying to judge our run game and play action game. Defenses learned that they could just defend those first 10 yards and generally be effective against Jimmy.

Brock has been able to very effectively push that passing attack 10-20 yards further downfield, regularly attacking 20-30 yards down with both in-breaking and out-breaking routes. That puts huge pressure on the LBs in particular, who now have to play the run or bail immediately to defend those deeper passes. That in turn gives the run game more room to maneuver. It's cyclical and symbiotic, and so far this year it's destroying defenses with ease.

And as said, that downfield stuff may look easy, but it is working because Brock is showing remarkable anticipation, judgment, accuracy, and is threatening with all of his players at all levels. It's pretty unique for any NFL QB, and it's incredible for a guy who is only in his second year.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#443 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:13 pm

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So we're not allowed to critique him at all? I see plenty of guys on this forum critiquing other guys on the team.


We all critique every player on the team including Purdy, go in the game thread and you will see it. But that is not what you do, you keep trying to find reasons for Purdy not to be a good to great QB. No matter what he does, you don't care and doesn't change your mind. He could make a few bad throws and throw a couple INTs just like every other QB including the ones that have all those physical tools you love and that is when you will jump in.

Not just any QB can make these throws and reads, you are completely blind if you think so.

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Everyday it is something new with this troll.

He said this before the Dallas game

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

The troll was wrong again. So he has to scour the internet to find a Purdy doubter following the game and then he makes up crap like the WRs were all wide open when anyone who watched the game could see many of the throws were made in tight windows. Now, his latest thing is Purdy is going to struggle in the playoffs in the cold weather. LOL


Let's be clear: Orlovsky was not even a Purdy doubter in that show. He referred to Purdy as a legitimate MVP candidate who has clearly altered and elevated the Niners' passing attack.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#444 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:18 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
arich35 wrote:
We all critique every player on the team including Purdy, go in the game thread and you will see it. But that is not what you do, you keep trying to find reasons for Purdy not to be a good to great QB. No matter what he does, you don't care and doesn't change your mind. He could make a few bad throws and throw a couple INTs just like every other QB including the ones that have all those physical tools you love and that is when you will jump in.

Not just any QB can make these throws and reads, you are completely blind if you think so.

Read on Twitter



Everyday it is something new with this troll.

He said this before the Dallas game

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

The troll was wrong again. So he has to scour the internet to find a Purdy doubter following the game and then he makes up crap like the WRs were all wide open when anyone who watched the game could see many of the throws were made in tight windows. Now, his latest thing is Purdy is going to struggle in the playoffs in the cold weather. LOL


Let's be clear: Orlovsky was not even a Purdy doubter in that show. He referred to Purdy as a legitimate MVP candidate who has clearly altered and elevated the Niners' passing attack.


Well if it isn't Orlovsky, it will be someone else. This whole thing reminds me of the old ESPN board days where Alex Smith hating trolls could talk about nothing but how bad Alex Smith was. At least they were smart enough to take a break when Alex was playing well and waited for a bad game to knock him.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#445 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:42 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:Well if it isn't Orlovsky, it will be someone else. This whole thing reminds me of the old ESPN board days where Alex Smith hating trolls could talk about nothing but how bad Alex Smith was. At least they were smart enough to take a break when Alex was playing well and waited for a bad game to knock him.


Yeah, though the scale is completely different. Smith never had the kind of sustained play that Purdy is showcasing, even with a very strong Chiefs roster around him.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#446 » by Big J » Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:47 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:

Everyday it is something new with this troll.

He said this before the Dallas game

My guess is that he's going to look a lot more like Jimmy in this game than some world beater. His limitations are going to be more apparent against a good D.

The troll was wrong again. So he has to scour the internet to find a Purdy doubter following the game and then he makes up crap like the WRs were all wide open when anyone who watched the game could see many of the throws were made in tight windows. Now, his latest thing is Purdy is going to struggle in the playoffs in the cold weather. LOL


Let's be clear: Orlovsky was not even a Purdy doubter in that show. He referred to Purdy as a legitimate MVP candidate who has clearly altered and elevated the Niners' passing attack.


Well if it isn't Orlovsky, it will be someone else. This whole thing reminds me of the old ESPN board days where Alex Smith hating trolls could talk about nothing but how bad Alex Smith was. At least they were smart enough to take a break when Alex was playing well and waited for a bad game to knock him.


According to you everyone who points out his weaknesses is a hating troll. There is a reason that there are multiple people pushing back against this narrative that he’s a top 5 qb. No one is arguing that Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar, or Hurts are being overhyped because they all have the actual pedigree, and all look the part of a top 5 guy. Purdy is a cute little underdog story, but he’s is too little and too weak to be a part of the elite group.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#447 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:59 pm

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Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Let's be clear: Orlovsky was not even a Purdy doubter in that show. He referred to Purdy as a legitimate MVP candidate who has clearly altered and elevated the Niners' passing attack.


Well if it isn't Orlovsky, it will be someone else. This whole thing reminds me of the old ESPN board days where Alex Smith hating trolls could talk about nothing but how bad Alex Smith was. At least they were smart enough to take a break when Alex was playing well and waited for a bad game to knock him.


According to you everyone who points out his weaknesses is a hating troll. There is a reason that there are multiple people pushing back against this narrative that he’s a top 5 qb. No one is arguing that Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar, or Hurts are being overhyped because they all have the actual pedigree, and all look the part of a top 5 guy. Purdy is a cute little underdog story, but he’s is too little and too weak to be a part of the elite group.


Late sixth-round pick Tom Brady would like a minute of your time....

You are completely moving the goal posts after predicting an implosion against a good D that Purdy lit up despite the run game struggling through three quarters. Can you at least acknowledge that?
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#448 » by arich35 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:09 pm

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Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Let's be clear: Orlovsky was not even a Purdy doubter in that show. He referred to Purdy as a legitimate MVP candidate who has clearly altered and elevated the Niners' passing attack.


Well if it isn't Orlovsky, it will be someone else. This whole thing reminds me of the old ESPN board days where Alex Smith hating trolls could talk about nothing but how bad Alex Smith was. At least they were smart enough to take a break when Alex was playing well and waited for a bad game to knock him.


According to you everyone who points out his weaknesses is a hating troll. There is a reason that there are multiple people pushing back against this narrative that he’s a top 5 qb. No one is arguing that Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar, or Hurts are being overhyped because they all have the actual pedigree, and all look the part of a top 5 guy. Purdy is a cute little underdog story, but he’s is too little and too weak to be a part of the elite group.


So him being a top 5 guy will only satisfy you? What does this kid have to do for you to be happy with him being the QB for the 49ers?
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#449 » by Big J » Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:10 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Well if it isn't Orlovsky, it will be someone else. This whole thing reminds me of the old ESPN board days where Alex Smith hating trolls could talk about nothing but how bad Alex Smith was. At least they were smart enough to take a break when Alex was playing well and waited for a bad game to knock him.


According to you everyone who points out his weaknesses is a hating troll. There is a reason that there are multiple people pushing back against this narrative that he’s a top 5 qb. No one is arguing that Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar, or Hurts are being overhyped because they all have the actual pedigree, and all look the part of a top 5 guy. Purdy is a cute little underdog story, but he’s is too little and too weak to be a part of the elite group.


Late sixth-round pick Tom Brady would like a minute of your time....

You are completely moving the goal posts after predicting an implosion against a good D that Purdy lit up despite the run game struggling through three quarters. Can you at least acknowledge that?


Tom Brady is huge. Dude is 6’6 and looks the part. Purdy looks like a high school gym teacher. Yes he had a good game against Dallas. He did what he was asked to do and didn’t have to avade pressure or do anything outside of the box though. He made some good throws, but it wasn’t anything that would wow you when you compare it to what the top guys do.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#450 » by Big J » Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:12 pm

arich35 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Well if it isn't Orlovsky, it will be someone else. This whole thing reminds me of the old ESPN board days where Alex Smith hating trolls could talk about nothing but how bad Alex Smith was. At least they were smart enough to take a break when Alex was playing well and waited for a bad game to knock him.


According to you everyone who points out his weaknesses is a hating troll. There is a reason that there are multiple people pushing back against this narrative that he’s a top 5 qb. No one is arguing that Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar, or Hurts are being overhyped because they all have the actual pedigree, and all look the part of a top 5 guy. Purdy is a cute little underdog story, but he’s is too little and too weak to be a part of the elite group.


So him being a top 5 guy will only satisfy you? What does this kid have to do for you to be happy with him being the QB for the 49ers?


Finish the job that Jimmy couldn’t. The whole reason for getting a new QB was to put the team over the top.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#451 » by arich35 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:21 pm

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Big J wrote:
According to you everyone who points out his weaknesses is a hating troll. There is a reason that there are multiple people pushing back against this narrative that he’s a top 5 qb. No one is arguing that Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar, or Hurts are being overhyped because they all have the actual pedigree, and all look the part of a top 5 guy. Purdy is a cute little underdog story, but he’s is too little and too weak to be a part of the elite group.


So him being a top 5 guy will only satisfy you? What does this kid have to do for you to be happy with him being the QB for the 49ers?


Finish the job that Jimmy couldn’t. The whole reason for getting a new QB was to put the team over the top.


Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts all haven't won a Super Bowl. What about them?
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#452 » by Big J » Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:45 pm

arich35 wrote:
Big J wrote:
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So him being a top 5 guy will only satisfy you? What does this kid have to do for you to be happy with him being the QB for the 49ers?


Finish the job that Jimmy couldn’t. The whole reason for getting a new QB was to put the team over the top.


Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts all haven't won a Super Bowl. What about them?


What about them? They haven’t won one, but they all give you a chance to. All of those guys have an extra gear that Purdy doesn’t.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#453 » by CharityStripe34 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:23 pm

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Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Let's be clear: Orlovsky was not even a Purdy doubter in that show. He referred to Purdy as a legitimate MVP candidate who has clearly altered and elevated the Niners' passing attack.


Well if it isn't Orlovsky, it will be someone else. This whole thing reminds me of the old ESPN board days where Alex Smith hating trolls could talk about nothing but how bad Alex Smith was. At least they were smart enough to take a break when Alex was playing well and waited for a bad game to knock him.


According to you everyone who points out his weaknesses is a hating troll. There is a reason that there are multiple people pushing back against this narrative that he’s a top 5 qb. No one is arguing that Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar, or Hurts are being overhyped because they all have the actual pedigree, and all look the part of a top 5 guy. Purdy is a cute little underdog story, but he’s is too little and too weak to be a part of the elite group.


Who is calling Purdy a Top 5 QB? Honest question.

I generally don't follow a ton of sports media, but I don't think one analyst has said he's a Top 5 QB. Many have remarked that he's playing great or excellent, not that he's a Top 5 talent. Unless I missed something somewhere.

IMO, he's shown to already be a very good QB (not elite) who's playing excellently on a very talented team. This type of play is good enough to win a SB, IMO. Obviously, that remains to be seen. So far, it's a "What If?" scenario had Riddick been blocked in the NFC Title Game. We'll never know what may have happened last season, but the kid looks even better. And coming off of a UCL tear is sort of remarkable that even many Purdy supporters in the media forget to mention.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#454 » by arich35 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:43 pm

Big J wrote:
arich35 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Finish the job that Jimmy couldn’t. The whole reason for getting a new QB was to put the team over the top.


Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts all haven't won a Super Bowl. What about them?


What about them? They haven’t won one, but they all give you a chance to. All of those guys have an extra gear that Purdy doesn’t.


Your metric for being a fan of Purdy as the QB of this team is if he wins a Super Bowl but the guys you think are that much better than him have not won one either. How can you say they are great if they haven't done the one thing you want your QB to do?

It isn't easy to win a Super Bowl even if you have that "extra gear" you apparently want from a Quarterback.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#455 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:44 pm

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Big J wrote:
According to you everyone who points out his weaknesses is a hating troll. There is a reason that there are multiple people pushing back against this narrative that he’s a top 5 qb. No one is arguing that Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar, or Hurts are being overhyped because they all have the actual pedigree, and all look the part of a top 5 guy. Purdy is a cute little underdog story, but he’s is too little and too weak to be a part of the elite group.


Late sixth-round pick Tom Brady would like a minute of your time....

You are completely moving the goal posts after predicting an implosion against a good D that Purdy lit up despite the run game struggling through three quarters. Can you at least acknowledge that?


Tom Brady is huge. Dude is 6’6 and looks the part. Purdy looks like a high school gym teacher. Yes he had a good game against Dallas. He did what he was asked to do and didn’t have to avade pressure or do anything outside of the box though. He made some good throws, but it wasn’t anything that would wow you when you compare it to what the top guys do.


If you think his vision, anticipation, footwork, and ball placement on those deep crossers and outs is just doing "what he was asked to do," you just don't understand QB play.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#456 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:28 pm

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CrimsonCrew wrote:
Let's be clear: Orlovsky was not even a Purdy doubter in that show. He referred to Purdy as a legitimate MVP candidate who has clearly altered and elevated the Niners' passing attack.


Well if it isn't Orlovsky, it will be someone else. This whole thing reminds me of the old ESPN board days where Alex Smith hating trolls could talk about nothing but how bad Alex Smith was. At least they were smart enough to take a break when Alex was playing well and waited for a bad game to knock him.


According to you everyone who points out his weaknesses is a hating troll. There is a reason that there are multiple people pushing back against this narrative that he’s a top 5 qb. No one is arguing that Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar, or Hurts are being overhyped because they all have the actual pedigree, and all look the part of a top 5 guy. Purdy is a cute little underdog story, but he’s is too little and too weak to be a part of the elite group.


No. There is a difference. A troll just keeps posting the same negative stuff over and over again and posts nothing else. You would rather see Purdy fail then the 49ers win
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#457 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:31 pm

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
According to you everyone who points out his weaknesses is a hating troll. There is a reason that there are multiple people pushing back against this narrative that he’s a top 5 qb. No one is arguing that Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar, or Hurts are being overhyped because they all have the actual pedigree, and all look the part of a top 5 guy. Purdy is a cute little underdog story, but he’s is too little and too weak to be a part of the elite group.


Late sixth-round pick Tom Brady would like a minute of your time....

You are completely moving the goal posts after predicting an implosion against a good D that Purdy lit up despite the run game struggling through three quarters. Can you at least acknowledge that?


Tom Brady is huge. Dude is 6’6 and looks the part. Purdy looks like a high school gym teacher. Yes he had a good game against Dallas. He did what he was asked to do and didn’t have to avade pressure or do anything outside of the box though. He made some good throws, but it wasn’t anything that would wow you when you compare it to what the top guys do.


High school gym teacher? What a ridiculous comment. It is obvious you didn't even watch the game and are just throwing crap there.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#458 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:32 pm

Big J wrote:
arich35 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Finish the job that Jimmy couldn’t. The whole reason for getting a new QB was to put the team over the top.


Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts all haven't won a Super Bowl. What about them?


What about them? They haven’t won one, but they all give you a chance to. All of those guys have an extra gear that Purdy doesn’t.


What about them? They haven’t won one, but they all give you a chance to. All of those guys have an extra gear that Purdy doesn’t.

LOL,keep posting the BS narrative.
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Post#459 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:33 pm

arich35 wrote:
Big J wrote:
arich35 wrote:
Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts all haven't won a Super Bowl. What about them?


What about them? They haven’t won one, but they all give you a chance to. All of those guys have an extra gear that Purdy doesn’t.


Your metric for being a fan of Purdy as the QB of this team is if he wins a Super Bowl but the guys you think are that much better than him have not won one either. How can you say they are great if they haven't done the one thing you want your QB to do?

It isn't easy to win a Super Bowl even if you have that "extra gear" you apparently want from a Quarterback.


He thinks Lance has the extra gear. He would have started Lance this year.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#460 » by Big J » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:37 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
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What about them? They haven’t won one, but they all give you a chance to. All of those guys have an extra gear that Purdy doesn’t.


Your metric for being a fan of Purdy as the QB of this team is if he wins a Super Bowl but the guys you think are that much better than him have not won one either. How can you say they are great if they haven't done the one thing you want your QB to do?

It isn't easy to win a Super Bowl even if you have that "extra gear" you apparently want from a Quarterback.


He thinks Lance has the extra gear. He would have started Lance this year.


Lance at least has the physical tools. Not saying he'd be doing better than Purdy this year, he's just capable of higher heights, like winning a SB.

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